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11161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 16, 2016, 05:23:51 AM
what happened to the 30+dapps that were supposed to be announced last week? did i miss them? are they any good? or was it all lies?

In my opinion those dapps do not really matter. Who was the guy on twitter that posted the news? Is he known in the Ethereum community?

Anyway those dapps are probably small independent ones that will not really make any impact on the platform, ETC or ETH. But I could be wrong so please enlighten me.
11162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: August 16, 2016, 05:20:03 AM
@pabloangello that is very true! It is also why we see why many people do not hold their coins long term. They fear that their profits will diminish. For them their paper profits are already real money which is not. They only think it is.

Yes. Holding long term is very very hard. Imagine you bought NEM at 30satoshi, it rises to 300satoshi, then try not to sell (You dont know then that it will rise to 2000sat in couple months). To do that you need to be experienced investor or complete beginner bag holder.

Hahaha. So you mean to say you have to be completely very skilled or very stupid to be a big winner in trading. That is two extremes at each end of the spectrum.
11163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH Foundation was basically caught trading stolen coins in exchanges on: August 16, 2016, 01:55:00 AM
I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

Then return the ETC owned by the DAO holders. There are people from the Ethereum foundation and slock.it who are involved in the white gate hacking group. If they really intended to have nothing to do with ETC then why did they attempt to dump ETC on Poloniex and Kraken. You can read more about it here https://medium.com/@jackfru1t/the-robin-hood-group-and-etc-bdc6a0c111c3#.jgy1h5vfg
11164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH = Game Over on: August 16, 2016, 01:48:49 AM
Do not be naive. It was clear they had ill intentions from the beginning. Why were they hiding their moves in the first place. If they really were going to return the funds back they should have made it transparent and made public announcements.

They might have ill intentions in the beginning, but they said they will return the ETC. Did the other hacker say the same?

Then why has not it been returned yet? Why did they intend to dump the ETC in Poloniex and Kraken? Now that they are threatened with legal action why don't they return the funds immediately?

Now they are saying they are hiring lawyers to fix the problem and then return the funds to the DAO holders. But they did not say that the lawyers they hired are from Bity SA. That is slock.it’s legal partner during the creation of the DAO!

Sorry DAO holders but you are all getting cheated out the ETC you own.

Read this https://medium.com/@jackfru1t/the-robin-hood-group-and-etc-bdc6a0c111c3#.jgy1h5vfg

Educate yourself.
11165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TO RETURN ETC TO DAO INVESTORS PETITION on: August 16, 2016, 01:39:07 AM

Very good article. But are the things written here all true? It could be that they are because they have posted all over reddit about being involved one way or another. A very sloppy job by them. They expected the original chain to go away that is why they did not have any interest in the ETC by them. Now that it has survived they tried to dump it on Polo and Kraken. Cheesy
11166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 16, 2016, 01:26:23 AM
My guess it is in more in the 2 year time frame for social media success--and not in the rocket ascent of an instagram outlier.

I believe it is unlikely for Steem to make any changes that would create viral adoption. I thus believe it will peak at much less than 1 million users.

Yes I think you need a rocket viral ascent.



The Chinese appear to be coming to game Steem's curation reward system:

This has never happened before, and Maximum CPC exceeds 800%

Later they will realize they need to collude to take more of the money, as did the Bitcoin Chinese mining cartel.

But Bitcoin has a use case. I fear Steem will unravel. I don't think it can sustain at a low level of usership because the forces holding it up are expectations and later these must turn into fighting over money (Tragedy of the Commons).

All that changes perhaps if Steem has a widespread use case. But I don't see it.

I wonder what it is with Asians. They always like to cheat when it comes to money. They did the same with Stellar when they had a facebook giveaway. It is also the same in games of chance. All they do is try to cheat.
11167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Card for Spells of Genesis sold for 5 BTC on: August 16, 2016, 01:22:32 AM
Where can we start playing Spells of Genesis? I was playing Magic the Gathering in my younger years so this will be a no brainer for me. Also please their development team to drop by here at bitcointalk in the announcements.
11168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 202: Diaz vs McGregor 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: August 15, 2016, 12:46:58 PM
I am worried about Nate in this fight. Is it true that he is distracted with all the marketing and the appearances in tv shows? I even read that he is almost 200 pounds now.
11169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: August 15, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
@pabloangello that is very true! It is also why we see why many people do not hold their coins long term. They fear that their profits will diminish. For them their paper profits are already real money which is not. They only think it is.
11170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 15, 2016, 12:03:42 PM
Well done, i put it on the slack.

http://www.ethnews.com/charles-hoskinson-tells-us-why-he-is-100-etc

we seem to be the talk of the town,

It is very good to see ETC is getting more publicity. The Hoskinson news is making the rounds getting more supporters' faith and confidence. When the road map, the whole plan and the budget is out there is nowhere to go but up. Keep watch of the hash rate. Any significant increase is a sign to buy more.

Would Really love to see the ETC RoadMap.

I hope it also has "hipster" names for its projects.  Like "Homested"   But maybe with a space age twist.  Name the projects after important space finds

EG:
Project neutrinos


Yes. I am also excited to see what the road map will be. Will ETC be also switching to POS? That is what I am most curious about.
11171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Have bulk amazon ec2 accounts on: August 15, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
Zcash will be a CPU mining only coin from what I read in their forum. Zcash will be big so better do all the research and start mining their testnet so that you will know the ins and outs of mining that coin for real when it is officially released.
11172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Lisk Price Discussion on: August 15, 2016, 11:23:57 AM
I would like to start this thread so we can have all discussions and speculations about the price in here in on thread. For me the price is now very stable and will not go down below 40k satoshis anymore. It is time to buy slowly and accumulate.

How about you?
11173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH/ETC Madness: Good time to refill Alt bags? on: August 15, 2016, 11:18:14 AM
In the long term no business man will want to make deals with the Ethereum foundation. They have shown that the are capable of commiting bad things and it shows that they have criminal minds. They are ruthless but they are also idiots who panic in the face of adversity from the DAO attacker. The attacker must be laughing so hard with what is happening with the Ethereum fork right now.
11174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [FCT] FACTOM - HOW FACTOIDS WORK - PRICE SPECULATION on: August 15, 2016, 11:10:26 AM
Yes I am confused as to why someone dumped FCT hard. This is a point in time to hold because it is rising in price. Maybe there is someone who does not like for it to go up? But why?
11175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: August 15, 2016, 10:59:04 AM
Sasha won't deliver on time, or even deliver it in the future, the weird thing is that the price is still high, people adapt sasha now, they don't panic dump this time. 

Whenever there are newb accounts FUDing you know its time to buy....   some one needs to create a bot that trades on newb FUD/SHILL indicator signal.

You know what is funny? The small Waves holders who cannot wait for the price to go up will make a new account to troll his own coin because he is hating the developers. The whales are the ones who wait patiently and you know when they have left because when they sell it will really affect the price.
11176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 15, 2016, 10:52:12 AM
Well done, i put it on the slack.

http://www.ethnews.com/charles-hoskinson-tells-us-why-he-is-100-etc

we seem to be the talk of the town,

It is very good to see ETC is getting more publicity. The Hoskinson news is making the rounds getting more supporters' faith and confidence. When the road map, the whole plan and the budget is out there is nowhere to go but up. Keep watch of the hash rate. Any significant increase is a sign to buy more.
11177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 15, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
Lisk has been steady eddie on Poloniex. This could be a good time to start buying because it does not look like it will go down below 40k satoshis from now on. Them man who dumped LSK must be regretting that he did it.
11178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Eth/ETC clone on: August 15, 2016, 10:35:43 AM
Go for another entire platform. The other clones have Vitalik's dna in them. Ethereum and the clones may not even work entirely because of scalability issues. Maybe try Lisk. They have the same concept but with some differences that could be more advantageous compared Ethereum.
11179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So, are all the previous ETH haters now ETH(ETC) lovers??? on: August 15, 2016, 10:08:30 AM
I'm not a big fan of the ETH hard fork, but ETC only serves to weaken the reputation of the alt coin community. If they didn't agree with the hard fork they should have moved their support to another coin instead splitting the ETH community into two camps.
im not a fan of fork either though i didnt hate eth before, right now etc is the best currency for me and i think that it is going to grow in the future

I think if the lost DAO can be recovered by the police, then it is good to have ETC. Otherwise, ETH is better.

The police? What are you saying? I am not sure if you know what you are talking about or if you are just posting nonsense for your signature campaign.

A dump by the attacker or the white hate group and the Ethereum foundation will be bad for the price of ETC. But it will not kill it. If they dump, whales and speculators will buy. I am also sure the miners themselves will also buy. It should be encouraged that they dump now to get that out of the way. But the wise thing to do is to hold.
11180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH = Game Over on: August 15, 2016, 09:58:40 AM
Do not be naive. It was clear they had ill intentions from the beginning. Why were they hiding their moves in the first place. If they really were going to return the funds back they should have made it transparent and made public announcements.
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