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1121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 04:28:35 PM
I don't recall who is managing the drkcoin reddit page, but could you link the Darkcoin logo to /r/DRKCoin instead of the reddit home page?
1122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 04:08:34 PM
lotterymining.com

Todays Winner is: elberethz amount won: 35.298358 DRK

Super BIG congratulations to elberethz!!!
1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 04:05:14 PM
Is there a version of ig0tik3d's cpuminer minerd which will run on 32 bit Windows?

I'm sorry to say that 32 bit will have such horrible hash rate, that nobody will bother to make one.  You could, if you don't mind, run Linux on a jump drive in 64 bit, and then run minard:

Copy and paste into a terminal:

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install -y build-essential m4 libssl-dev libdb++-dev libboost-all-dev libminiupnpc-dev git automake libcurl4-openssl-dev

sudo git clone https://github.com/elmad/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes

cd darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes

sudo chmod +x autogen.sh

sudo ./autogen.sh

sudo ./configure CFLAGS="-O3 -march=native"

sudo make

Then do this command: sudo ./minerd -a X11 -o stratum+tcp://drk.lotterymining.com:4444 -u You.YourWorker -p Password

lotterymining.com is a great pool Smiley
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 04:00:39 PM

No, DarkSend is definitely going to be an opensource project. We'll do some audits and make sure there's nothing wrong with the concepts and code, then open it up. By the way, it's going to be about 10000 lines of code you would have to add to your coin. It's not easy and you could destroy your coin by adding it. So good luck, this isn't like adding KGW. I don't think there will be many coins with developers that confident in their abilities. There's literally not one file that I didn't rip apart to do this.

DarkSend being opensource isn't that big of a deal, I've dedicated at least a couple years of full time work to making this coin successful. Can any other coin compete with a full time dev? It's the innovation that makes a coin like this successful and there's alot of ideas out there I can implement after DarkSend. We'll have one hell of a coin.

DarkSend is backwards compatible with the underlying protocol, so your dev that's working on the paper wallet need not worry.

You can put so much to rest by popping in and writing a few lines, I'm going to store the link to this post and quote it once a day,  Grin Cheesy
1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:55:41 PM
I understand keeping the alpha closed source on a test-net but bitcoind has been in beta since 2009.  So how long is darksend going to be in 'beta'?

Based on all the info I have - not much longer at all - a few weeks at most I would think.
Anyone in the "know" care to comment? (since I've offered my opinion based on reading this thread only)

Gee, it's been in beta about 4 days now?  this is too long, we must open now!  (jk)

Seriously, though, it's not ready.  It's safe enough to invite the public to try it, and that's where it currently is.  I'll guess less than a month to full functioning open source but only Evan and the good lord can know for certain Smiley
1126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
Ah fuck it. Dark coin should be Voyeur sourced. That way if you want to take a look at the code, you have to be cheeky about it. Grin

 Cheesy  Grin  Cheesy  Grin +1
1127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
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Tell me, WHY on earth would i care about anonymous transactions if i wanted to buy Amazon Gift Cards?
.....

I don't know why, I never do anything illegal, but I am anal about privacy.  family members are tagging photos of me on facebook, and I cringe, I freak out!  I can't explain it, but yes, I want my checkbook closed to outside eyes.  

I'm already exposed, I've lost my privacy.  Anyone can find me if they wanted to.  My Sister and Mother use their real names on facebook, I can't imagine doing that, LOL, but I am being worn down. However, I truly think that it's not a good thing.

Why would i care about anonymous transactions?  I don't know, I just do!  It's not the one transaction, but the habits being recorded.  Believe me, if there is a way for marketing people to do it, they'll figure out where you shop, what you buy, what boggles my mind is that so many people don't care!
1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
OK...Please Let's end this discussion once and for all.  Evan has said that DarkCoin will be open sourced... once Darksend is out of beta. The plan is to be open sourced.  I'm am very certain that Mr. Eduffield is aware that this is and will be an on going evolution with many more features to be added with time.  I for one am quite confident that Evan and Ape have taken the time to consider the route they wish for this coin. it would far more productive if we could come up with a wish list of additional features that people would think as cutting edge.  

Great idea.  I'll reiterate that I love the short message idea HammerHedd came up with.

I'll add an idea, Would it be possible, with a click or two, to take part or all of your balance off line, on to a jump drive or paper wallet?  then a click or two to reload when you need it?  Could be called "Banking the balance?"
1129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:25:46 PM
Couldn't this result in darksend transactions being exposed? If someone denominates, darksends, and then denominates again at a later time, the transaction for the second denominate will likely include both the change address for the darksend, and addresses used in the first denominate. This would link the change address to the rest of the wallet, and since there is likely to be only one corresponding output in the darksend, the darksent portion could be identified.

Even if that couldn't be done, denominating the whole wallet together allows anyone who knows one receiving address to identify most if not all of the other receiving addresses. It seems to me treating each receiving address as separate instead of operating on the whole wallet would be a safer, although more annoying, choice.

But I don't see any of that information on the blockchain.  Is there more information on the blockchain that isn't covered in the explorer?
1130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:13:13 PM
For the record - I think open source is the only way to go - however, again, I think it matters how that is done - it's not as simple as saying - "open source it".

I believe the plan - as per the dev - is to open it once DarkSend has been fully debugged - which I think is entirely reasonable. I think others want it to have a little more momentum in the market and with adoption before it goes open source - which I don't think is unreasonable either. However, it's ultimately the developer's choice - I'm sure though that he will take the input of the community seriously.

I know he has said that closed source is NOT an option in this thread - however, is this on any of the sites so its known to new users?
Because, the community knows that closed source was never an option - but I don't think others do.


It gets drowned out by everyone arguing this point over and over again  Roll Eyes

The developer wants darksend to be fully functional before releasing it into the wild so that anything that might be wrong won't propagate in every other coin.  I don't think of it as closed source, I think of it as smart.  Alt coins are all just copy > paste and I don't think there is much thought given to it, so it could mess a lot of users up and in the process, give darksend/darkcoin a bad reputation.  Evan needs to keep control until it's ready, then it will be released open source, and yes, others will then improve on it.  That's what open source is all about.  In the mean time, I suspect Evan will be coming up with other great features for our coin and implementing any improvements made to darksend.

that's how I see our future here.
1131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 06:57:17 AM
I want to know why the price of DRK drop and drop with such many guys notice the coin.
And the network diff rised so fast,and we all pay attention to keeping  this thread being active.

Good question, I don't understand that either?  I'm not worried, but it does seem weird to me??


I think somebody is still out there controlling the pice !
not sure why, but they seems to keep it steady around 0.0014-15
..>>

But how could they possibly do that?

It's still traded thinly on a relative basis, it only takes one horse with a shit ton of hashrate to collapse things. 1btc of investment on Cryptsy right now would push it back into the 16000s range. I have 2.5btc invested at the moment, contemplating setting a 15000 floor with another 2btc.

With a marketing push coming up, maybe it's a good time.  I imagine you like to have some btc handy though.

Yeah, I'm a cheap date... after posting that I just transferred 2.5 btc into Cryptsy. Prepare for a bump in a few confirms, i'm taking this fucker to 15000


LOL, good luck!  I wish I had btc!  My tiny miner would only get me about 0.004 btc if we land a block, but it's been 12 days... no block, and I'd immediately turn it into dark if I could!
1132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 06:36:26 AM
I want to know why the price of DRK drop and drop with such many guys notice the coin.
And the network diff rised so fast,and we all pay attention to keeping  this thread being active.

Good question, I don't understand that either?  I'm not worried, but it does seem weird to me??


I think somebody is still out there controlling the pice !
not sure why, but they seems to keep it steady around 0.0014-15
..>>

But how could they possibly do that?
1133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 06:29:31 AM
Official fundraiser for Darkcoin marketing & branding

Since Darkcoin was 0% premined, we will be doing this the old fashioned way, with a fundraiser. Many people in the community have expressed an interest in pushing our marketing effort along. We wanted to make sure the time was right, while Evan sorted out the kinks in the Darksend code. But we are nearly ready to show Darkcoin and Darksend to the world, so let's get this moving.

I will release a list of bounties for marketing & branding in the next day or so when I have a bit of spare time. For now, you may donate to the official fundraising wallet (anonymously if you like!). You can also PM me with your donation details and I'll keep some accounting, if only for the sake of making sure your donation is accounted for and spent appropriately.

As always, you are a fantastic community and we appreciate your support!

Fundraising wallet: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh

YES!  That's wonderful LimLim, I'll send a truly humble donation, a weeks worth of coin, so it hurts a little Smiley  not much at all, but at least I can do my small part!  Darksent over to ya!

TXID 43aaaba7aef9ff7e9ded8267b539b41118b91e2362abd82bb3fb15f8c5a56382
(told ya it wasn't much, but it did hurt, I promise Smiley )
1134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: March 10, 2014, 06:18:38 AM

Again, I would implore you NOT to be distracted by these alt-clone marketing suggestions. This is the wrong place to put your attention. Develop the coin & conduct outreach to the media and NOT focusing on the crypto coin miners/traders.


How do we get the media to see us/talk to us/write about us?

Well, it's actually pretty simple, especially when it comes to online media (bloggers). Most will have contact information on their articles or blogs. You simply write a nice letter (that you can reuse) that explains the purpose of your outreach. It's not just "HEY LOOK AT OUR COIN", it needs to be done professionally and as I stated would make sense to have someone (one or two people most) working alongside the developer of DRK.

You just write a note saying the developer is available for an online interview, Q&A, whatever with some basics about the coin, etc. Remember, you're offering them content for their site (their occupation), so if it's a compelling ask, you'll get responses.

But it just shouldn't be people spamming emails blindly around without coordinating with the devs.



Well, I'm here for moral support!  But I'm not good at persuasion Sad  Hope some of you can do this, it's a great idea!

also, from your previous list, maybe we should make use of the darkcointalk.org forum and create a thread for each question so the points can be cleared up and be well written, such as:

Why anonymity is important in cryptocurrencies?  How does DRK solve the anonymity issue? how does DRK fit into the Crypto-World alongside BTC? etc... all from your previous post
1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 06:12:53 AM
I've been thinking...

Something just doesn't add up with the Armory using Darkcoin.  There is absolutely no way any legit darknet site would use Darksend while it is still closed source.

What am I missing?

That homeland security run the armoury?

Rofl.. Exactly what I was thinking.

Just imagine the logistics. Read the interview... The Silk Road model just can't work with guns. The Armory has to be a front. It's not even close to possible. I've been in the LEGAL weapons business for my whole life. If there were a way to skirt the law on it, I'd do it! I'm all about giving back what the government unjustly takes. But there's no way you can mail guns around and not be detected. Utterly ridiculous. The only people who would bother to try are complete idiots, and people who work for the state so they know it'll get there and they catch the buyer...

You think you're hiding a gun on an x-ray? Or the obvious pattern of a box of ammo? STEEL and LEAD show up on X-Rays more than anything you can find! There's not a damn thing you can do to block it or disguise it. There is absolutely no way! I would never even consider doing it because I know it can't work!

Guns that are smuggled are done knowingly with people on the inside being paid to look the other way. That's how it's done because it's the only way that has any hope of working. And that costs way more money that I have, and way more money than the prices on that site reflect. It doesn't add up.

If you watch the screenshot it seems that they have stores/partners in different countries so they can distribute their products.

I saw... It might look good to the uninitiated who have no experience in the business... If the desire overpowers limited knowledge... I can see them snatching up a lot of foolish people with that bait. If you want it to be true too much... Bleh, anyways. If it could be done, I admit I'd be doing it. I have all the experience and knowledge needed; and it tells me only a complete retard would even try. No fucking way. Not even close to possible with the model they present. Its just enough to help the clueless make a dumb choice...

It'll help law enforcement catch a bunch of low-hanging fruit that would otherwise not even be trying... It'll make fun headlines. They've already busted real darknet sites, now they'll reveal running one... Few people will trust the darknet after that.

Darwin's survival of the fittest, da weak fish bite and their gene pool is incarcerated  Grin  Cheesy

hey, I'm one of those who feels the right to bare arms is one of the most important rights a person can exercise, but I don't think it would take that much fire power to break the government if it should overstep.  We'd overwhelm them with numbers and break their will as casualties mount.  Lets hope it never comes to that!
1136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 06:04:46 AM
On the another note, Eduffield are you still planning to attend the New York conference?   Didn't quite get a clear picture on what your intention was due to some changes.  

No, I was struggling to figure out how to do that with some family stuff that came up. Plus they downsized it to a couple hundred seats and it was really expensive to get there and the tickets are really expensive ($200) so I'm not sure how much impact it would have actually have had. I'd much rather speak at another conference, maybe one in Cali.

Since you won't be attending the convention you could do a video presentation explaining Darksend, put it on youtube and link/post it to other DarkCoin related sites.  Same content that you would have presented at the convention.  



Or maybe a live online Q&A

Excellent idea!  ideas!
1137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 05:57:16 AM
I think more useful would be the ability to also send small, twitter-sized messages instead of just transactions via darksend. Imagine that you could combine a transaction with a message or something like that. Hash the characters together and send it like a transaction, and all of a sudden, you have a really well encrypted, anonymous message system that overlays on an existing network.

This compromises anonymity (unless the message is utterly generic, in which case there's no reason to send it). You could argue that it's one person voluntarily compromising his/her own anonymity but because of the way DarkSend works, they're chipping away at the anonymity of everyone else involved in the mixing.

I don't think you get it, the message would be encrypted with the coin or address or something, so that when  the receiver gets the coin, they can see who it came from and why or whatever short message you want to send, a purchase order reminder, etc...

Certainly the person receiving the message should know why the money arrived, just not the rest of the world!
1138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 05:54:49 AM
I think more useful would be the ability to also send small, twitter-sized messages instead of just transactions via darksend. Imagine that you could combine a transaction with a message or something like that. Hash the characters together and send it like a transaction, and all of a sudden, you have a really well encrypted, anonymous message system that overlays on an existing network.

I REALLY like this idea!  Plus you can already have someone's address (cut and paste works fine) in your address book with whatever name you like, then call it up anytime.  But an encrypted  message to be sure the person knows where the money came from is brilliant
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:58:57 AM
Quote
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sgminer 4.1.0
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Configuration Options Summary:

  Use git version......: yes
  libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl  
  curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses
  OpenCL...............: NOT FOUND. GPU mining support DISABLED
configure: error: OpenCL not found

This is beyond stupid... I'm sick of trying to fix all these screw-ups.

Since there is no software that actually works for this card, ASUS 7970 for sale.

I know you're upset, and you've probably done all these things, but just in case i'll ask:

Did you update to the latest non-beta driver?  13.11 or some such?

Did you download and unpack the ADL_SDk into the same named directory in the sgminer folder?

I followed some instructions that said you need to install the AMD APP SDK, but I don't think that's required.

Sorry if this has been covered before, I can tell you're really at the end of your rope.  Please don't throw anything hard at me, LOL
1140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 03:49:40 AM
Meanwhile according to this http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1zz4h0/the_armory_new_currency_accepted_darkcoin/
the armory just added Darkcoin. Whether you like that  or not the armory has more than 10000 subscribers at reddit alone....

Mind that "the armory" accepts only Bitcoin and Darkcoin right now...

Is it just me or does this sound like pretty big news?


I think it's pretty big news, at least we must be making an impression!
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