I dont know if this has been posted here - but an interesting part about GAWMiners from around 6mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w90SspSJSgs

Ok I get it. Thank you to all those who've responded to my last comment. I see that you will not be swayed. Committing oneself 100% to one's belief is most commendable  
I'm gonna let you guys get on with it. Peace.

Wow it's incredible the number of hate comments in this thread. I'm honestly curious as to why you guys are ganging up on GAW like that and don't just say it's a scam/ponzi, you have to have hard evidence before pointing the finger. Also if it is a scam, how do you guys expect Josh to get away with the stolen money when all his details and company details are known? GAW is a registered business, he would have nowhere to hide and cops would soon be knocking on his door. One more thing I don't really understand, usually if I don't like a coin/project for whatever reason, I'd just forget the thing even exists and move on, I certainly wouldn't set out to destroy the coin.

I fail to understand where debit cards come into play at all. They couldn't even launch a simple amazon API shop correctly...HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE DEBIT CARDS WORK LOL?! Even if they did, I think it would be easier and more convenient for me to go to my bank 2 minutes away, deposit money in a Federally insured banking institution, and pay no fees on that than to give Homero Joshua Garza of GAWminers my money, pay some fees, and probably have their customer data breached AGAIN all while assuming it is even correctly working (Which I wouldn't because nothing GAW has done has been working, at all).

The scam is that Josh has millions of dollars in BTC and USD and tons of investors(So he says) but he can't make a $20 wall like he promised?
He hasn't invested anything into the market and I'm sure hes dumping some xpy because hes a greedy manipulative liar who has to pay all his employee's 6 figure incomes.
No idiot would work for a company that is clearly lying to people for profits, to bring home minimum wage.

Why is he begging on his forums for his followers not to dump? Why not stand behind your coin and buy them all up @ a promised rate of $20/each?

MAYBE ITS BECAUSE JOSH GARZA IS A SCAMMER and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, hes been tricking people out of their BTC since early 2014.

I hope Josh and his whole family/friends and anyone associated with running these scams go to jail.

Here is a complete list of individuals who are directly associated with this scam and the ones prior to this one:

Homero Josh Garza - Cult leader - CEO Gawminers
Jessica Garza - Josh's wife - Worked as a customer service agent for gawminers
Carlos Garza - Josh's Brother - He is somehow affiliated with gawminers.
Eric Capuano - Information Security Officer Gawminers - Previous owner of zencloud?
Amber Messer - Eric's Wife - Works as a customer service agent for gawminers
Joe Mordica - CTO Gawminers
Dan Pease - General Manager - Gawminers
Evan Lucas - Lead software Engineer - Gawminers - Zencloud
Ryan Mottley - Software Developer - Gawminers - Zencloud
Amanda Veilleux-Meara - Call Center Manager - Gawminers
Stuart Fraser - Partner at Cantor Fitzgerald LP - Josh's Piggy Bank
Alan Harmon - Purchasing Manager - Gawminers
Scott Fargo - Head of Mining News at CryptoCoinsNews - Paid by Gawminers to post shill articles to help trick individuals
Rami Abramov - Chief Marketing Officer - Gawminers
Bill St. Dennis - Role is unknown - Gawminers
Christian Gogol - Marketing and PR - Gawminers
Luke Rusten - Role is unknown - Gawminers
Jonah Dorman - New General Manager? - Gawminers
Tim Davis - Volder - Owner of hashprofit/hashtalk forum -  Has been strangely heavily invested in Gawminers since the beginning, knew inside information and profited.
Reesie Garza (Amaris) - Customer Support Rep - Gawminers


Let it be known that these individuals have profited from scamming/lying to you and knowingly taken your money on false pretenses.

Everyone above gets paid every month and I'm sure they're all making 6 figures and that's directly from profiting from individuals who don't know their left from right and are suckered into joining a forum where paycoins are force fed down their throats with broken promises.

I wonder how anyone of these people sleep at night?

Well, I've bought hardware miners from GAW and invested in hashlets 5 months ago. I really don't see how GAW could be a scam/ponzi, they operate within the law and all info about the company is public. So far I've made more money than I could have dared hope for.

I haven't had time to follow this gawd awful wreck, anyone give a quick recap of what happened with the $20 floor..

I'm in a flight so unable to do video / audio as the latency is so high.

Did anyone get a recording? Did they admit user data was exposed? Someone messaged me to say they blamed it on Cloudflare which of course confirms that data was exposed.

Josh and Joe are both on the tinychat.

Paycoin faithful: Never fear, Meganet is here!


"Do you sell TVs?" Uh, no, moron. They sell bomb jamming and cell phone hacking equipment to people like Blackwater.

http://meganet.com/

But they do have 1 GB USB drives for $30. These are the only items that I have seen in the whole meganet store that do not require being U.S Government (or presumably civilian contractors) to purchase.


Get em while they're hot morons! Your $20 Paycoins are honored here! LMFAO!

This is obviously some sort of desperate measure to save some of the $250,000 investment that the Meganet CEO stated they had in Paycoin.

Also: I know typos happen, but right on the front page?? And for what product? Why secure information encryption technology - of course!!


"Secure Infromation is Power"

I really am taking notes on all of this. I am simply not creative enough to come up with all of the screwball shit that keeps pouring out of this whole scam, it is a treasure trove of story ideas.

I hate to admit it but this has gone badly, I was one of the few lucky ones who did snap up the $20.06 on offer through pay base, however I was stupid enough to reinvest. I am closing out the position and will still get an average price of $15. However I am now seeing this for what it is and that is just another alt coin, everything you can do in Pay Base once on line I can already do in one format or another here in Australia with BTC.

As for the hash stakers all of mine were converted hashlets as there was no point in keeping an investment that was never going to win, the premier account doesn't do anything for me as I am in Australia and most of the features will be US based, as Josh is trying to ensure everything he does is within the law only US citizens will be able to get a debit card.

Hashstakers are already a dead investment, if you bought a staker you have no chance of a ROI at $9.00 per coin. The converted ones will only miss the opportunity to sell their coins as the market is dying.

With only 1.4 million dollars in trade yesterday Josh should of been able to keep a $20 floor in place but chose not to, in fact had of Josh put and kept a $20 floor in place the markets would now be trading at around the same level.

So I now find myself asking what has happened to the supposed 100 million fiat, and the 10 million in BTC mined (as stated in the WJS article), the 10 million in BTC alone should have held a floor price.

I have been a semi supporter of GAW but now find the lies are to far fetched for me, I actually think LTC gear has more chance of paying me this week then I have in seeing the $20 floor price again.

So I must say I now think that most people here are right and I was probably wrong.  

GAW is so rich and powerful their CEO doesn't need a desk with a computer or paperwork or any of that antiquated 20th century junk!

This will be very interesting to watch over the next coming hours. Cryptsy Chat is cheering the dump thats going on currently

https://coinfire.cf/2014/12/31/amazon-further-denies-paybase-gaw-miners-involvement/

Boom

Okay, so the $20 promise is toast, so why are there still people holding XPY? The price is still high enough to get a great return for anyone who mined HP with his hashlets. Why are people still buying XPY? It's beyond obvious that the $20 floor doesn't exist. The tiered transaction confirmation doesn't exist. The compressed blockchain doesn't exist. This coin has nothing now, but the price is still high enough to give a great return.

I would say this is the last chance for people to exit, but I thought the last chance was when I exited at about the same level, so who knows how long this opportunity to take profits will last?