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1121  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Experience on Bitcoin on: March 07, 2023, 08:24:25 PM
Has anyone ever thought of investing in Bitcoin in previous years, but later left out due to negative though that Bitcoin will not have positive value in time to come.
   Let share our experience.
   As for me I still regret my actions years back, but I still believe that it's never too late.
My regrets are this.

1. Didnt save up Bitcoin for moonbag, wayback im earning bitcoin but i do cash it out or converted to fiat immediately after i had recieved it.
2. Lost up lots of Bitcoin wayback when Hyip/Ponzi scheme sites are flooding in the market

Trying to remember or on the time that i have seen or realized this, then it  cant really be avoided for you not to regret out
because if you have done the opposite then i might be rich now.  Cry
1122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin can't be rubbed on: March 06, 2023, 11:33:33 PM
They can't get Bitcoin at an ATM but the real cash is inside that machine.
So why would they be disappointed if they already get some cash?

Bitcoin ATM works: before you buy Bitcoin you need cash to deposit so it should have some cash unless all transactions made on that machine are via Debit/credit card.
Was supposed to say the same thing that even if those thieves had failed on getting bitcoin literally but for sure they were after for the cash inside.Although the money they could stole wont really be that as much compared on a typical fiat atm machine but still they do successfully get some amounts despite of failing up on getting those bitcoins which we know that its impossible on getting it.
Criminal acts doesnt really care whether its bitcoin or fiat as long they could get something valuable then that what matter the most
and its not something new in todays where breaking atm machines turns out to be that not shocking thing anymore.
1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do NFTs Have Same Value as Bitcoin?* on: March 06, 2023, 10:45:49 PM
As a newbie in the forum, I have read other articles about Bitcoin, but I still need a good guideline on the crypto world, Bitcoin, and NFTs.
NFT are most into those pixelated shit art images which it had been insanely been priced high or too expensive but when the hype goes down then those nft's did really lose value and to those people who had

purchased or hold those collections ending up on huge negative or lose of investment and there's no way on getting those value back.Also in speaking about talking about differences with Bitcoin then it is really

that different. Digital currency vs a non-fungible-token then from that alone or speaking with definition then its completely different. NFT hype now is slowly really decreasing or
already to the floor and thats why i dont mind much on touching up these things.
1124  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: March 06, 2023, 10:15:18 PM
No doubt the coming time is more futuristic and AI will have more impact over people but the main problem in these art contest comes with people generating AI based arts and just a little manipulation with them while submitting is they can do which is actually not a good idea.The main idea behind these contests is to come up with some of your creative arts hand drawn or digital so we should focus more on it if to make it more fair in manner.
Fairness is just a matter of perspective basically. Some like me consider AI as a tool that aids us in developing different designs which are unique to a certain extent. Some others feel that it's cheating and don't condone their usage.

Ultimately, it comes down to the team to decide whether to allow its usage or not.
When it comes to digital art then we do have ai generators nowadays which you could really create one without breaking a sweat which means that if they do have that category about digital art
then they wont really be that dumb not to know about those probabilities on being used when it comes to the competition but well its up to theirs whether they would disqualified it out or not
but pointing out which one is ai generated or not is really that something not that simple nor obvious.Well, its up to theirs on how they would really be doing it
but they are that dumb on not to grade out those entries.
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else agree that mtgox payout is keeping bitcoin down? on: March 06, 2023, 09:26:46 PM
Honestly if I am one of those victims that have been waiting for my funds to get refunded and then I've received it, without any doubt that I'll spend it like there's no tomorrow so I'll totally sell all of it and if not all, then a large part of it.

Whatever is the reason with the sudden falling of bitcoin's price. Let's appreciate also the reasons why it has been up coming from the lowest that it had after the bull run of 2021 which made bitcoin $16k.

Every time we don't like the movement of the market, we're thinking a lot of things and that's no good for our own cause because it will just create a panic attack if you keep thinking about it.

I think it depends on the victim’s situation. There really isn’t a difference between having funds held by the gox bankruptcy and cold storage. Except the declining amount as a result of lawyers being paid. I imagine a lot of those victims stayed in Bitcoin and probably have other BTC they could sell if they wanted. I’m sure there are a couple whales who will dump but not everybody.
If we do look about into those amounts then it is really that lucky that they are really returning victims or users funds in half in btc and half in fiat which i could consider that it did really lessen out the risk on

making the market do crash out specially with Bitcoin.Although it wont really be that much in a concern because no matter how hard we do crash there's always a recovery.

This is not really that shocking anymore if we do speak about negative news or fundamentals because the market could neither affect it out or not.
If ever it crashes then there are lots of people on the community and investors would really be catching out on that bottom.
1126  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your bitter-sweet experience in trading that you can't get over. on: March 03, 2023, 08:40:00 PM
Anyone who is into trading must have had some ugly experiences and also some good memories that either changed their lives or improved their financial status.We all know trading is risky and can cause emotional trauma if not seen and taken in two ways,either positively or negativily,either you win or you lose.It can be good and at the same time can make you sad.
What are those bad and good experiences you've had ever since you started trading?

Buy high Sell low.

This is usually happening whenever i do get fomo'ed on which this is always been ending up a disaster and a never forgettable moment and this is where we do really learn up our lessons.
Each of us would really be experiencing the same and this is something inevitable, some could be able to handle out and some do easily quit out.
Its up to yours whether you would continue for this kind of goal or would easily quit up and find for another venture.
1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: March 03, 2023, 07:21:48 PM
Odds are basically predictions. Odds represent probability. So there's really nothing special about AI predictions aside perhaps from the possibility that all the pieces of information fed to it will definitely be made use. Human odds makers could forget or miss a factor or two.

In fact, it is possible that AI's prediction is of lesser accuracy than odds makers' predictions. I am doubting if everything that should be taken into consideration in creating odds could be appreciated by AI. Things like the level of chemistry among players or their comfort playing with each other might not be understood by AI if it hasn't encountered it yet.
I would agree that some oddmakers could miss a thing or two, but not tens of thousands of gamblers, in fact call it over a million people in most bets. And since they all calculate together, when you look at everyone who wagers, eventually every single data is covered, if I miss X but not miss Y, and you miss X but not miss Y, then we together miss nothing.

Why does this matter as gamblers? Because we will end up betting accordingly and then oddmakers will change it based on our bets as well, which will be the odds. So all in all, odds are already telling us what we need to know, and no AI could ever do anything better than that ever, not even with all the data we can feed it.
Its one of the main reason on why AI cant really be that precisely able to tell and say on whose gonna win on a particular match up or making it use on your sports betting activity.

There are several factors which humans is always been that superior considering that making up decisions on specific conditions will really be needing only human intervention.

We cant really deny the fact that AI's could really be that useful on particular manners or certain key areas but there are places or things which
using it would be not relevant at all.
1128  Economy / Economics / Re: My survival strategies in this harsh economic conditions on: March 03, 2023, 06:55:16 PM
I liked Low spending on celebrations and growing crops at home. The most economical ways to grow your balance as well as save some on junk foods really. These days peeps tend to spend big chunks of money on celebrations. They would care more on decorations and what others will think about it rather than being simple about it and spending more on let’s say donations on those holy days, feeding the hungry kinds stuff. Anyways, even if they don’t do it then they can save amazing amount of money.

Growing crops at home is another trend that is viral. Peeps who love gardening should take up this seriously and learn to do “hydroponic farming”. The cheapest  and less space consuming type of farming. One can smoothly do it and also save up there. Great article to learn basics of savings.
I do live on a city but if i do have the opportunity on having or purchasing some agricultural lands then i would definitely be doing that on which i would really be mainly be trying out to grow some rice crops

even though it would be still needing to have some expense but eventually you could really that able to sustain up yourself since you could really be able to bag out and save it out.
but since the place on where i do live is already that having no space nor having no for sale lands then its impossible for it to be happening.

Economic conditions could really put us up on a hard situation on which survival is something that we should really be minding of.
1129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I've been scared to invest in bitcoin on: March 02, 2023, 11:35:35 PM
Only those who are confident in their ability to handle the risk should invest in bitcoin. Those who think investing in it would be too dangerous should refrain from doing so because it is not a free income platform or get rich fast scheme. Speaking of volatility, I don't believe that will occur; I believe it was better that way when it was designed that way. They are afraid because they don't fully comprehend how it works, which is why I was once also terrified but only because I didn't grasp it at the time.
Some fears do arise because they don't really understand how it works and maybe they don't know Bitcoin that well, so the fear of investing in Bitcoin still exists. Even though those who are still afraid to start investing in Bitcoin can find out for themselves about how it works and also want to get to know Bitcoin in more depth. And those who are able to handle investment risks well will continue to invest in the long term.
Even if you do know the basics it wont guarantee out that you wont really that get scared because we are really mainly that focusing that much with our investment which we know that we are really that

afraid on seeing our investment in going negative specially on a market decline.This is why the first thing you should consider is having the acceptance on what you are dealing with, you should be aware about the risk involved because volatility could really act as a double blade on which you could make profits and loses money and it would be depending on the market condition.

Getting scared is normal but once you do get used to it then it would really be just like an ordinary day in speaking about price movements or swings.
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can we experience $80k this year? on: March 02, 2023, 10:31:51 PM
Bitcoins are known for repeating the history. So yes there is really high chance that Bitcoins will reach it’s new ATH this year. Bitcoins follow the 4 year price pattern. So according to it, the price has to go up this year. Moreover February started with green indicator. March has to do some more miracles. Bitcoins has the capacity and we know that. So instead of panicking, you should wait for the end results. The marketcap of the coin is high, and it has already proved in the past. So let’s hope for the best and wait for the results.
If bitcoin follows a 4 year pattern cycle why does this year have to happen this year while the halving is still next year? I know anything is possible because bitcoin movement can be very significant it will still be unrealistic if it happens knowing now it won't even be easy to have to go through several other phases which are obstacles for bitcoin's rise to be bullish.

I know how early to know bitcoin has been showing good signs a little bit bullish in the market I did not expect this to happen and even the month of February could stay above $20K.
There have been many people speculating in March, of course I expect it to go up but I don't know whether bitcoin will be ATH this time of year or not


As for me, I believe that history will repeat itself, Bitcoin only reached its ATH after the halving, so I don't think there will be a miracle. Not to mention the world economic situation in the first 2 months of the year is showing bad signs again, inflation is still threatening us, so the expectation of a surprise this year is very fragile.

Many people predict that the Fed will continue to increase by 0.5% instead of 0.25% as previously predicted, if this happens, there is also a possibility of bitcoin falling again, and I hope bitcoin will not fall below $20k.

it may not be a miracle but right now, we need to be realistic with our predictions. because if you will act on your predictions, you may end up getting disappointed if that price is not reached. 80k at the moment, is still very far from reality. maybe, aim at least half of it, 40k. to reach such price, we need a stimulus, a very good one. but there's nothing yet atm.
I dont know on why there are people who do really make out those unrealistic approach or calls when it comes to price? Haven't they able to look back or check out the charts on whats the duration if we do

speak about price cycle specially in between bear to bullish market? This wont really be just a smooth sail ride if we do talk about 80k price.How much more in talks about reaching out for this year?

Going to look around on which there are no huge positive catalyst that would drive out the price that high rather than on Bitcoin halving.This is why its better to
have that realistic approach so that you wont get ending up on being disappointed.
1131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad on: March 02, 2023, 09:40:47 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of "gambling is neither good nor bad".  That is really the way people should look at it.  It's kind of like doing certain drugs, they may not be bad for you if you do them in moderation and don't let them take over and consume your life.  Sure there can be some negative effects, but there's also plenty of positive effects (for certain drugs)..so it's really all about ones mentality of mental strength.
Gambling will never be bad as long as you do it not crossing your limits in gambling. It will only be bad if you make it as your only way to earn a living, that is too absurd to think of. And its always bad actually if you do gambling most of your time, and yet you still end up losing all your funds and become unproductive the whole time.
Never ever cross your limits and this would really be the key on which you cant really just able to experience some problems if you are aware on what you are doing.There are really just that people who do really

loves to go all in because they are really that becoming that impulsive when it comes to gambling.Its not bad if you are just playing occasionally for the sake of leisure time and entertainment but if you are already that treating it as your main source of income or trying out to be that desperate on achieving things then this is where things turns out to be messy.
Better stop while its still early or while you arent spending that much of your finances into this activity.
1132  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading addiction, are you coping? on: March 02, 2023, 09:19:29 PM
I just wonder if there could be any more info about being addicted to trading. The article only gave out checking prices constantly, even in the middle of the night regardless of everything or anything. I mean I've been there, but I wouldn't have considered myself addicted to trading (and it was rather light, definitely didn't wake up just to check prices). Well, I definitely felt the stress of trading, I wasn't even aggressive heck I was actually scared of every drop to the point where I lose money instead of profiting.

And honestly, if you have the skills, I'd consider addiction to trading be well worth it at some point.

I think that checking prices is not an addiction, and that is something that I see as normal, since when there is a culture about Bitcoin and the way of operating it is something that is acquired depending on the type of operator, for example I am more into operating in the medium and long term, that is something that I do like this, because operating in the short term is not convenient for me because I am not very good in that temporality, however I want to learn, but I think that you need to know a lot to do it I have seen that some of them burn the account, and that is what should be avoided.

Yes its really just normal if you do have that kind of habit on checking out prices every now and then since we are risking and dealing with our money had been invested on which it would be normal that we would

really be that attentive on what are the current things that is happening within the market.As long you arent compromising other things or priorities then it should be fine since this kind of dealing isnt something

that is useless because we know that trading could possibly give out that kind of opportunity or benefit for us to make money specially on long term.This is really beneficial too but of
course you shouldnt really expect nor guarantee out yourself because we know that market could also fucked us up and would lose money instead of earning.
1133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Alts Blood Bath for Feb? on: March 01, 2023, 11:51:11 PM
I'm just looking at charts of ETH and other altcoins rn and I feel like we're in for another blood bath.  And February could end up bad with most alts ending in red for the month.

I'm not sure what's going on and what's causing most of the market's volatility but it's not looking good guys.  Whales look like they're running stops then shorting the market themselves..  Does anybody what's up with the sudden change in sentiment?

Anyway US session starts soon.  Let's see how it goes...
As February is coming to an end, market looks like it stands well. Bitcoin is still up nearly 40% in 2023, and most altcoins are up with more percentage. Targets like 28k and 32k could be achievable for Bitcoin in the next weeks and that would cause altcoins to increase more.Although I don't think the bear market is over, I think Bitcoin and other altcoins won't suffer more than it suffered in 2022.
That 40% is the reason why people should be pretty excited about the rest of the year as well and for some reason many of them are not. The fact that January was good, and yet people expected "blood bath" on February is basically the proof that we still do not really understand the market well enough.

It is doing fine and I think it should be pretty high in the upcoming months but we have seen this increase starting and yet still do not believe it for some reason. Why do people do not believe in the current market situation? I mean I get that it is not going to be easy to accept it right away or anything like that, but it has been a while too, we should face the reality already.
It could really be done on alteration and this is why getting that confident is never been that recommended once you are dealing with this market.Everything could happen in a snap if we do speak about trend

change and market behavior.The only thing where most people been eyeing is on the upcoming halving event and the bull run that we are spotting on.Some say about 2024 and 2025 but its still not an assurance that it would happen. Alt blood bath is never that new and something you would be shocked of because it does really happen often and this is why you
should really be that prepared for whatever things that you might encounter.
1134  Economy / Economics / Re: How is the cost of living in your country? on: March 01, 2023, 10:52:18 PM
In Indonesia it's actually not too expensive, it's just that the minimum wage for employees and the large number of unemployed are still the main problems. For rice as a staple food, the price is still $0.79 / kilogram. Gasoline is still priced at $1, and other needs will surely follow. For Southeast Asian countries, especially countries that are still developing, the prices of basic necessities can still be considered affordable because they adjust to the minimum wage of employees and the economic conditions there. Different when talking about developed countries such as Japan, Korea, Singapore, China, Australia and European Union countries.
Correct. In fact, the price of gasoline in Indonesia is still less than $ 1 dollar. And the price difference between developing countries and developed countries is very clear. but the unemployment rate in developing countries is also very high. So there are still many who live in economic difficulties. but the majority of Indonesia's population, even though they don't have a job or are unemployed, are still able to survive because the sense of humanity in Indonesia is very high. we work hand in hand and help each other. And if we go to the villages, the cost of living there is much lower. even many natural resources that can be obtained for free. and even many jobs that can make money if we want to help the farmers there. because many farmers in Indonesia also lack workers. because many young people there migrate to big cities and do not continue the farming that is managed by their families.

Very situational in each country because petrol products could really be that in different because we know that application of taxes or whatsoever add ups do really vary on each governance which do really sucks if you do live on a country which taxes are really that high which would really be applied.Cost of living here on our country is cheap but it do same goes on the wages that could gain here if you do have the work which it would really just breakeven and whats worst is that the goods and other products and services becomes even more expensive but the wages still remains which means that you would
really be fucked up if you wont really be able to find alternative income.
1135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad on: March 01, 2023, 09:33:57 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I don't think approaching gambling with discipline will make it a relaxing and fun activity.  I believe if you look at gambling as a way of entertaining yourself and are not conscious about winning and losing then anyone can find gambling fun and relaxing.  The moment our motive changes from having fun to getting a big win, then that changes, it is not fun anymore and not relaxing if our bankroll is getting depleted.

And yes, I agree that gambling is neutral and how people look at it makes it good or bad.
You are definitely right on this one because gambling should really be for fun but we know that majority of people would really go into that path on which they do really that believe that it is something that could

bring out money or make them rich on shortest time as possible, and this is the thing that makes them desperate and this would cause up some actions which arent really that sensible or doesnt have any sense
at all.
Gambling isnt bad as long you arent compromising your finances because this is the main problem whenever a certain person do make out some involvement on such activity.
You should really be always held responsible for whatever actions you are tending to make.
1136  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: who would you trust? on: March 01, 2023, 09:31:08 PM
Since strategy are always changing in trading, what is the relevance of experience? Who would you trust the most for trading tips,
An old trader who has had better days and mostly still relevant because they have a strong reputation for the fact that he has been trading for a while, or would you trust a new trader who is hot in the market and fresh with new strategies?
Dont trust anyone since you are risking your own money which means that you should really be the one who do make out decisions basing up into your position.Dont let others would really do the job since we

are all speculators here on this unpredictable and volatile market.I have that bad experience on letting someone do make out decision on following up their signals but out of 10 trades then it turns out that

it was really ending up on cutting losses due to bad positioning.This is why in the end i have learned my lesson and never ever tend to trust up for whatever person do
claim out that they do have that high winning or profitable trades.
1137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time is the most valuable thing on: February 28, 2023, 11:38:19 PM
There is a popular saying which implies that time is money, so for every time you spend on useless resources, I guess you are wasting all the opportunity that you would gotten to gathered all your riches. Working overtime over strenuous works with little pay is just like a normal trend in my country because of the high rate of corruption and hardship over here. I mean, I was literary working my ass out during my days in the university but and still couldn't meet up because of the break down I had over these strenuous works. I had to work at least three job for me to able to meet up my needs which cause me great loss of time.
Time is indeed money but it would really be depending on how you do make use of it as efficient as possible on where success would really be depending on how you do work hard and how you do make most of it.

Some people do succeed and some people do fail but still trying out their best to sustain and some are just simply sitting and doing nothing and this is why we could really see different scenario if we do speak

about certain conditions of certain people when it comes to money or financial condition.You should make use of your time as efficient as possible and something
that is productive.We do know that we are living on a world where inflation and recessions is something inevitable.
1138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: February 28, 2023, 10:22:51 PM
~snip~
For me luck is the ultimate and I see it as a sole reason why many persons keep having consistent winning over the time. If we have a good strategy and we don't have a luck, we might be missing opportunities that would make us winning or something might keep making us not to bet on games we have predicted or we got from a good source. I can't count how many games I have missed that was given to me to bet on but I could not bet on them because I was somehow afraid to bet on those games, rather I amended the games and I became the loser because I could not bet on them with my clear eyes.

If someone is saying to you that they're winning constantly, it probably means that they are not disclosing their losses.

That's a very common thing among gamblers, they forget how much they've lost, and only remember how much they've "won".

In most cases, specially in the long run, every gambler will have paid more to the casino than what the casino paid to them.
This is actually true and this is why gambling industry is one of the most profitable and long time running because of these type of gamblers or people who do really keeping up on chasing on winning big.
Its true that on the time that you do have consecutive losses and then suddenly win some considerable amounts then those stress and impulsive emotion would be gone and would really be ending up
on being decisive and continue to play once again and forgot all of those disappointment earlier.

Never ever consider that there's a working strategy that could make you rich.These are only good on making the game longer but doesnt assure out profitability.
1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expectations for March?! on: February 28, 2023, 08:52:07 PM
The bitcoin price movement was pretty much a roller coaster ride in a range for the whole feb. Despite the bad CPI data from the US, the price jumped from 22k to 25k and even above. And after all that, we still got 25bps rate hike (instead of a 50bps), but the price reacted opposite again and dumped (from 25k to current price of ~23k).
Considering all these scenarios of feb in mind and the current weekly death cross, what are your expectations for the upcoming month? I would like to know what most of the ppl think here. Do you still believe in the word recession?
I dont consider for it to be a dumping in price which would range up from 2-3k price decrease which it is actually could be considered as a normal day here on crypto space and something not really that shocking.

As for March then im not really that trying out to believe if there would be some pumps and dumps.I would really be making myself versatile as much as possible which i could make out buying or selling decisions

on shortest time as possible on which there's no specific or fixed targets and it would really be on point but of course it would really be depending on someones approach on how they
would gonna deal with this very volatile market.
1140  Economy / Economics / Re: Untouchable Savings: Do you have it? on: February 28, 2023, 07:24:35 PM
I am not sure - who are the lucky people who would have a untouched saving..
I dont even hav an emergency fund
Because I have a loose hand and a loss mind. and people get money from me and I give it to them
And you also don't need to be sure of that, because anyone who has untouched savings also doesn't talk about his assets in public and say he's a philanthropist like you say. If you give money to other people for free without a good reason, it will only look amazing to those who receive it. Whereas those who give it will only get a few words of generosity from people who know it, but more ridiculous in my opinion.
Probably, people who have untouched savings prefer to stay low key and do not brag much about their achievements. So we can’t tell exactly as who are these lucky people as they tend to look poor than to make people believe that they are rich and wealthy, with all those untouched savings reserved for their future. But tbh, people only save because they have goals in the future, and that savings are still going to be spend when the perfect amount is being reached.
People are really that different even we arent talking about savings or something like that on which there are fellas who do really love to brag about on how much they do hold or how much they do own and trying out to impress anyone who surrounds him which it is really somewhat an irritating kind or type of people which we do have in the world today.It is really much better if you are really that lowkey and
never been trying out to show on how much you do own or having.

This is why sometimes it do make people been put up into dangerous situations or conditions because it is really just on the result on what they are really that tending to share
up with anyone.
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