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11221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 15, 2016, 04:03:32 AM
If you succeed, people will hate you

Not necessarily, if you give them a way to join you and make a lot of money.

The problem is you cannot please everyone and take them with you. Just like what happens in real life some are poor and some have become rich. The ones left behind will cry and say that it is not fair because they became rich by ruthless cheating and scamming. But if those poor people were put in the same situation as the ones who became rich the funny thing is they will do the same thing. They too will ruthlessly cheat and scam to get rich. The loudest people here who always say FUD are the most envious of all because they did not think of the idea. Or maybe they did but they were scared to do it themselves or lack the confidence to do it. So they talk bad about a lot of things just like in real life.
11222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you have 1 BTC, what coin will you trade with it ? on: August 15, 2016, 03:53:34 AM
BTS and LSK for me. They are in accumulation right now and are both in the near bottom so there is not much risk. It might rise big soon especially now that bitcoin is going slightly down.
11223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH is a Fail and why ETC will fail as well. on: August 15, 2016, 03:48:09 AM
I disagree that the people who hold a huge stake in ETH is out to get ETC and are dumping them to kick the platform out of existence. ETH holders must have realized that by now it would be better for the original Ethereum classic to stick around so that they can profit from 2 chains. The minders have realized this. The others will of course also come to their senses. Why do you think the DAO holders want their ETC back from the white hat hackers?

Two chains is less safer than one chain. The low hash chain can be attacked. Nobody will work on that chain.

Well that is not what we are seeing right now. Both chains will diverge in the future becoming two separate entities. I foresee ETC gaining more hash power and within a year it will be more than 50% to the hash power of ETH.

The question is who will fork first to eliminate totally the "replay attacks" and finally stop it from happening. For me ETC should do it first.
11224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will happen to Tether? on: August 15, 2016, 03:39:07 AM
@Abiky, I am curious. What happened with the peg of Nubits? Did it not hold?
11225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wallets for bitcoin and altcoins on: August 15, 2016, 03:35:15 AM
Actually yes. I am also thinking about this. Did any developer create a single wallet for different coins? This would make everything easier for us.
11226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 14, 2016, 01:11:36 PM

Do not even focus on Bity. Focus on how Alex and the Ethereum foundation are trying to cover their tracks. Only a stupid person will believe that article. The whole community should remain cynical.

If you do not believe that article, it means the ETC has all been sold and the DAO holders will not receive the ETC.

I do not believe that Alex and the white hat hackers had any intention to return it in the first place. Now they have Swiss lawyers involved in figuring out how to "return" the ETC to the DAO holders. Right, this will now take years before they can see those funds in their wallets.
11227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 14, 2016, 01:03:09 PM
Hello Berlin! Hello WeWork! Hello LiskHQ!

Berlin, the biggest startup hotspot in Europe, is the city where the Lisk headquarters is going to form. We have been planning this step carefully since a few weeks and are now in the final steps.




Read the full blog post and see more images of the WeWork space!

Very nice! Now time to get settled and let the real work begin. Ethereum foundation has had many problems of late and it is time for Lisk to take advantage of this. Maybe try to talk to some of the developers to give Lisk a try for their smart contract projects and dapps.
11228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETC (Classic Ethereum) presented their Declaration of Independence on: August 14, 2016, 12:14:38 PM
They should. It is the only way to try to maintain the status quo. Miners know that they will have to support the next best coin to mine. That is ETC. I have said this before, always observe the hash rate of ETC. If you see a large increase and it stays there the price will surely follow. Mark my words.
11229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Only ETC is the real Ethereum on: August 14, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
Minecache got it wrong about what or who has the criminal intentions. No one will now invest in ETH because the whole world has seen the way Vitalik and the Ethereum foundation has run the project. Very sloppy showing inexperience and lack of regard for the consequences of their actions. Add an Ethereum foundation's messy plan of dumping of ETC in the market to that and you got everyone turned off from them. Only the people holding ETH hoping to sell higher are the ones defending it.

While ETC has just welcomed a new investor and adviser. That is Charles Hoskinson. Welcome back to the original Ethereum classic Charles!
11230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 14, 2016, 11:49:50 AM
Who else are the users of Steemit that is good to follow if you are into cryptocurrencies? I would like to deepen my understanding about it.
11231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How Ethereum Classic will exceed Ethereum in market cap. on: August 14, 2016, 11:45:36 AM
Do not focus on the Bity guy and his excuses. That is what he wants us to do. It is smoke and mirrors. All that article is doing is trying to cover the tracks of Alex and the Ethereum foundation and their connection to the white hat hackers.

I call on the Merkle and others to investigate the situation more closely. Thank you.
11232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 14, 2016, 09:36:18 AM
That dude was involved as much as anybody, he was part of the group. And the reason he won't say shit is because the foundation are the rest of them. This not only needs to be punished by the community but also in the court system. Paycoin/garza ran a mining pyramid scam and they went after him. These crooks stole, they lied and everything in between. I think the smart people are putting their btc in etc. Eth isn't going to be around after all of this, seen it before these dicks are going down.

Well said, what are the get forked ethereum project values now, transparency, immutability, decentralisation, the unstoppable computer code?  
They will dream up another insider hack and take more of their customers money before long, just you see.
This was an establishment project sent to disrupt crypto.  But its not going to work, decentralisation is here to stay.  
It's about how big you are, and how big are your friends ... same as the banking system worldwide, but the tide is turning!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8oeiOeDq_Nc


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mist wallet is giving error
'it seems like node could't be started, do you already one running? is it upgrading right now?'
what is this issue plz help

Please give more info on the version you are using, these are the latest wallets

Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum) by whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

New
Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
So no need to download the blockchain
https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet



Wow! Thank you for the light client Elaine! You are the best. I love you!

A light client is needed to get ordinary people to download a wallet. I do not know why it is taking a lot of time for ETH to make it.
11233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 14, 2016, 09:34:56 AM

Do not even focus on Bity. Focus on how Alex and the Ethereum foundation are trying to cover their tracks. Only a stupid person will believe that article. The whole community should remain cynical.
11234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: August 14, 2016, 09:30:22 AM
Sasha. Do not listen to the people who say all the BS about you and Waves. What they say will not affect the project because they hold only small amount of coins. They like to talk you in to hurrying the release of the full nodes because they are thinking there will be a pump so they could sell.
11235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 14, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
I have a question. Why is it that when a coin goes from no value to over $100,000,000 valuation in market cap everyone will say that it is a scam? Is this envy?
11236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Only ETC is the real Ethereum on: August 14, 2016, 09:00:39 AM
I disagree. It is only possible to reach parity if the hash rate of ETC will go up near ETH's hash rate. That will the only way for everyone to gain confidence in the platform.
11237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Fork good or bad? on: August 14, 2016, 08:50:00 AM
Please do not be hurt with what I said. It is because of his actions that caused all the mayhem in the Ethereum fork. The original Ethereum classic is now slowly stepping on solid ground thanks to the foundation provided by Charles Hoskinson.
11238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm new to Alt coins and was considering ETC. Any Thoughts? on: August 14, 2016, 02:43:36 AM
Yes. I second the Lisk suggestion. They are trying to achieve the same goals as Ethereum with a different style of approach. Instead of inventing a new programming language they are using javascript. So there is no need to learn a new programming language if you are a developer.
11239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum will be finished after this attack on: August 14, 2016, 02:37:14 AM
Do not buy ETC. It is not for you. Better for you to buy ETH if you think that is more stable.
11240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Only ETC is the real Ethereum on: August 14, 2016, 02:33:10 AM

You all make me laugh how you treat ETC as the criminal coin. Remember me who got caught in very shady operations on Poloniex ? Oh yes, the Ethereum Foundation (ETH) Roll Eyes...

Well, I'm not against ETC and neither ETH. I still believe in immutable smart contracts, but the only thing that ETC has is that it has given the chance to the DAO hacker to have ownership of the stolen coins (investor funds) and be able to dump them at anytime. This may cause a huge risk, thus making the price goes all the way down to less than $0.01 USD (in the original chain). Just my opinion, though.  :-

It will be bad for the price of ETC. But ETC as a platform will live on, be developed, grow and will eventually have a life of its own. We also know the DAO attacker will not dump everything at once. He will be risking everything he has which is stupid.

It would be funny to see the atacker to declare and return all the ETC he is holding back to the DAO investors just to make the Ethereum foundation look bad since they tried to dump their ETC thru the white hat group. Cheesy
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