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1141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 07, 2017, 02:24:49 PM
I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.

Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month.
BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research.

Simple question do you have anyminer?

Bitmain never said you would make your money back in 6 months. You simply foolishly ASSUMED that would be the case and it looks like you were wrong. That's the risk you take when buying a single purpose machine in a highly speculative market with ZERO resale value after it becomes obsolete. Do your research BEFORE you buy and if you can't afford the risk, DON"T BUY.

1142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 07, 2017, 09:01:19 AM
I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.
1143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 07, 2017, 08:21:45 AM
Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were  planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.



Bullshit, because they wont sell any d3 units anymore ? 5 years old kids knows if there is no profit nobody will buy.
This is directly related  how many unith that bitmain sold , you you can not say your decision or blabla .

Bitmain can choose to run their company as they see fit. The fact of the matter is, it is YOUR decision to determine if the unit fits your needs. By purchasing from Bitmain, you AGREED to those terms.

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The products on our Site are intended for personal, not commercial or business use, unless otherwise indicated. As such, you assume the risk when purchasing products for a commercial or business use or application.

https://shop.bitmain.com/serviceRule.htm

You also don't want to accept that ASIC mining is a highly speculative venture and it's not at all uncommon for units to be completley unprofitable within months of their release as new and better models come out. By purchasing specialized mining hardawre that has a single purpose, that is a risk YOU take.
1144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 07, 2017, 01:07:01 AM
Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were  planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.

1145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BITCOIN-GOLD Dev's Have Now Entered "Denial Mode" Deleting BTG Problem on GITHUB on: November 06, 2017, 07:05:26 PM
IMO, the BGOLD launch will be a disaster. The lack of transparency is worrisome and trying to fork BTC with the stated goal of creating a decentralized BTC with a premine just seems like a quick way for the developers to cash in off the meteoric rise of BTC. If they really cared about creating an ASIC resistant, decentralized altcoin, there are plenty of established projects they could support, which based on the projected price of 1/10th a BTC, are cheap in comparison, like VTC.
1146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best practices in placing the PSU on: November 06, 2017, 11:59:40 AM
The top of horizontal GPU support should be exactly 4.5" from the top of the bar where the GPU's screw in. I like to use a 1" x 1" board so that it doesn't block the air flow and I have room to get in underneath. Home Depot sells it by the foot and you can cut it to length.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-in-x-1-in-x-Random-Length-S4S-Oak-Board-21073/207059032

1147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best practices in placing the PSU on: November 06, 2017, 11:54:20 AM
As long as you're not blocking the airflow in or out and there is room for the PSU to dissipate heat, I wouldn't worry about it. The fan is the only moving part and it's made to hang upside down. The GPU fans should wear out before anything else. I use a box fan to keep good air circulation and remove heat around the cards. That makes the card fans work more efficiently, so you don't have to turn them up high and prolongs the life of the fans.

1148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best practices in placing the PSU on: November 06, 2017, 11:34:03 AM
That's what I do, stand the PSU sideways so the air intake and exhaust are blowing outwards. It also give the bottom of the PSU a way to dissipate heat. That case seems too short though. It looks like it doesn't leave much room for the USB riser cables and for a GPU over the PSU. 11 inches tall is a good height.
1149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v10.1 (Windows/Linux) on: November 06, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
Sounds like it. There is a documented exploit for the Claymore Remote Manager API.

https://medium.com/@s3yfullah/hacking-cryptocurrency-miners-with-osint-techniques-677bbb3e0157

I would close any open ports on your router and change the default port of the Ethman manangement tool.
1150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v10.1 (Windows/Linux) on: November 05, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
I would not be surprised to see a hybrid POW/POS implementation sooner than people think. At the last Ethereum developer meeting it was discussed preparation for the POW/POS implementation is at a point where it could be released in the next hard fork, Constantinople, which should be within 6-9 months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN-AtGgtmtA&feature=youtu.be&t=2297
1151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 05, 2017, 04:21:11 PM
Mining is most certainly NOT a business 'just like any other'. By buying specialized ASIC mining hardware, you are just speculating that you'll be able to make a profit by mining coins that are worth more than what you spent. In fact Bitmain's own terms of service, which by purchasing the unit you agreed to, state that the products on Bitmain's website are intended for personal use and are NOT intended for business use.

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The products on our Site are intended for personal, not commercial or business use, unless otherwise indicated. As such, you assume the risk when purchasing products for a commercial or business use or application.

https://shop.bitmain.com/serviceRule.htm
1152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 05, 2017, 03:40:55 AM
So, theoretically , what would happen to Dash in this example, but it could happen with any other coin, if mining becomes unprofitable?
Is it the end of the coin? Would people still mine it? If not how would the network process the transactions?

As the network hash rate drops the diffculty adjusts and makes it easier to mine. AFAIK, Dash was also the first coin that adjusts the block reward lower as the difficulty increases. That creates a mining reward incentive if the difficulty drops too much and keeps large farms from centralizing the hash power and gaming the difficulty like happens with SHA256 coins.
1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 04, 2017, 11:25:49 PM
And again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26VMhVLuHc
1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 04, 2017, 11:15:13 PM
So every body accept they sold miners which are useless and can not make any profit.
So everybody should remember ,at least, BITMAIN is a company that fools its own clients sometimes . Dont trust this company because they can sell you some ultra expensive heaters, if you are not lucky.. And there is no sense comparing this company with amd or nvidia, mostly they sold general purpose gpu which means you can play at least game or etc.. but asic miner is MINER , and MINER means makes profit. So no body will run any miner if there is loss. This is so clear but some how some BiTMAIN partners trying to protect their company...


You thought you were buying  some kind of golden goose that lays golden eggs? LOL. At least you found out there are risks in mining, ESPECIALLY in ASIC's, which are a one trick pony. The miner does everything it was promised to do and then some, so the fact you can't make ROI in 30 days or as soon as you would like is not Bitmain's fault. Even at zero current profit you can still mine Dash at less cost than could you buy it, so be thankful for that and hope it goes up long term or go find some other X11 shit coin to rape.
1155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Power supply issues on: November 04, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Try switching the PSU's around and see if it stays the same. If it is, then it could be the splitter cable is defective or loose.
1156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Power supply issues on: November 04, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
The 24-pin male end of the splitter cable connects to the motherboard. The 24-pin coming from the primary PSU plugs in to the female 24-pin connector on the splitter cable and the secondary PSU plugs in to the connecctor with two wires on the splitter cable. Then you just toggle the power switch on both PSU to the on position and turn it on with the power switch on the motherboard.

If all the connectorins are correct, make sure the motherboard isn't grounding out with some piece of metal on the bottom.
1157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 04, 2017, 09:52:35 PM
Bitmain used their references, history or good feedbacks to sell D3 . And if a miner is already useless before delivery  this is clearly fraud. Because they are not innosilicon or whatever else, and i am not only one who bought d3 , old bitmain clients also bought d3 .Because company created trust , then used this for fraud.

Ok what is next , so many people lost money due to this company's latest action , is there any one have an any idea what to do?




Bitmain offered for sale and YOU bought a X11 ASIC miner scheduled November delivery and that's exactly what Bitmain is delivering to you. In fact given the new miner batch is getting 19.3 GH/s, Bitmain  over delivered on their product. ASIC's are advanced mining hardware and it's assumed you should know what you are getting in to. There is no guarantee of profits in any kind of mining.
1158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alternative PSU for Antminer L3+ ? on: November 04, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
I recently ordered one of these dual 120V 2400W PSU's for my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ build and have been very happy with it.

http://www.panto-tech.com/products/206-110v-260v-power-supply-2400W-for-miner.html

It has 18 PCI-E 6+2 connectors that I use for the GPU VGA power inputs. It runs quiet and very cool as long as you don't run it at more than 50% of the capacity. When you run it at more than that, the fans get progressively louder the more wattage you pull from it. Shipping via DHL direct from the manufacturer was very quick. Total cost through PayPal was $181 shipped and I got it in less than 4 days.

The same manufacturer also has the same PSU with only the 18 PCI-E connectors and it's about $30 less, so I think that may be a better option for a L3 since it only uses the 6-pin power inputs.

http://www.panto-tech.com/products/207-110v-220v-power-supply-2400W-for-miner.html

BBT did a review of the PSU and has run it through various tests in his recent live streams and it's held up well. We'll see how it holds up long term, but for $150 shipped it's a good deal and solves the problem of not having enough PCI-E connectors for larger builds.

https://youtu.be/ZY2ouRWHgT8?t=300
1159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 04, 2017, 07:12:04 PM
The problem is DASH is a bad coin to mine with ASIC's. In addition to the difficulty adjustment that uses DGW, the block reward also adjusts with every block and is based on the total network hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the LOWER the block reward is. With tons of new ASIC's joining the pool, it's a race to the bottom in terms of the mining reward.

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In a nutshell: the number of coins mined per block depends on the mining difficulty (which itself is based on global hash-rate for Dash) of the last block. Low difficulty means more coins per block, hight difficulty less coins. Additionally there's yearly decline of about 7% coins per block.

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/total-dash-per-day-reward.14973/#post-127264

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DOC/pages/1146926/Dark+Gravity+Wave
1160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 04, 2017, 06:37:40 PM
$4 a day? That sound optimistic. If your power is 0.20 cents/kW, your current profit with the 19.3 GH/s batch at 1200 W is less than $1 a day.

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=19300.00&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3.00&d=27742603.21356480&r=1.80147602&er=0.03700200&btcer=7419.54010000&hc=2100.00

Guess you're going to have to HODL.
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