USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ?

[DextroFree]

Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were  planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.

Bullshit, because they wont sell any d3 units anymore ? 5 years old kids knows if there is no profit nobody will buy.
This is directly related  how many unith that bitmain sold , you you can not say your decision or blabla .

Bitmain can choose to run their company as they see fit. The fact of the matter is, it is YOUR decision to determine if the unit fits your needs. By purchaing from Bitmain you AGREED to those terms.

The products on our Site are intended for personal, not commercial or business use, unless otherwise indicated. As such, you assume the risk when purchasing products for a commercial or business use or application.

https://shop.bitmain.com/serviceRule.htm

You also don't want to accept that ASIC mining is a highly speculative venture and it's not at all uncommon for units to be completley unprofitable within months of their release as new and better models come out. By purchasing specialized mining hardawre that has a single purpose, that is a risk YOU take.

How much do you take from BITMAIN to produce these bullshits ? Miner needs to make profit to validate transactions? dont you know about this ? 5 years old kids know this . so stop scamming and if you and your scammers sell brandnew miner it should be profitable. This is why they dont sell s5,s7 anymore. This is why avalon or other lost the battle, otherwise they should still continue to sell their bricks. But your company BITMAIN fooled people by using their previous reputation.and they can do something about this issue other than creating such bullshit messages.

Maybe i miss something, but when you ordered your D3, did they give you any guarantee how much money you would make? I don't think so. So while i agree with you, you should make profit, you can never predict the future. You gambled, and you lost. Bitman or any other company can produce whatever they want and also how many they want. And everbody can decide if they but i or not. Supply and demand will regulate the market, 5 year old kids know this. That's the reason i would never buy an asic (or go to a casino), you may get great results, but not worth the risk for me.

[alexrossi]

you should really hold since there are not other options (resale value would be kinda 400 dollars...).

Next time just stay away from well masked pre orders

[Ben271286]

you should really hold since there are not other options (resale value would be kinda 400 dollars...).

Next time just stay away from well masked pre orders

Not staying away...simply better research is enough...like Obelisk offering siacoin and decred asics...first batch..i am in with both...i dont thing the blake algo will get floded like x11...so this looks much better! Anyway...if u are in first batch you should have no roi issues...

[alexrossi]

you should really hold since there are not other options (resale value would be kinda 400 dollars...).

Next time just stay away from well masked pre orders

Not staying away...simply better research is enough...like Obelisk offering siacoin and decred asics...first batch..i am in with both...i dont thing the blake algo will get floded like x11...so this looks much better! Anyway...if u are in first batch you should have no roi issues...

Out of my personal curiosity, may I ask if you have already in hand the miners and if not, if you have any delivery guarantee from the company?

[Vann]

I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.

Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month.
BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research.

Simple question do you have anyminer?

Bitmain never said you would make your money back in 6 months. You simply foolishly ASSUMED that would be the case and it looks like you were wrong. That's the risk you take when buying a single purpose machine in a highly speculative market with ZERO resale value after it becomes obsolete. Do your research BEFORE you buy and if you can't afford the risk, DON"T BUY.

[mcan]

I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.

Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month.
BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research.

Simple question do you have anyminer?

Bitmain never said you would make your money back in 6 months. You simply foolishly ASSUMED that would be the case and it looks like you were wrong. That's the risk you take when buying a single purpose machine in a highly speculative market with ZERO resale value after it becomes obsolete. Do your research BEFORE you buy and if you can't afford the risk, DON"T BUY.

who says ? one of bitmain worker who is trying to improve his salary.. huh .

This is not a gamble nor game, if miner does not makes any profit so nobody will buy or operate the miner , this is crystal clear.
Which research did you do ? how do you know howmany units bitmain is going to sell ? so any oversold units can be obsolete after 3 months.So dont tell your sci-fi stories.
You did not do any research and you can not do unless you have information inside the company.

[Ben271286]

you should really hold since there are not other options (resale value would be kinda 400 dollars...).

Next time just stay away from well masked pre orders

Not staying away...simply better research is enough...like Obelisk offering siacoin and decred asics...first batch..i am in with both...i dont thing the blake algo will get floded like x11...so this looks much better! Anyway...if u are in first batch you should have no roi issues...

Out of my personal curiosity, may I ask if you have already in hand the miners and if not, if you have any delivery guarantee from the company?

I preordered...like with any product in this sector its a gamble...but they keep the clients up to date and for me Nebolous seems to be a serious company...delivery date for the siacoin miner is 30. june 2018...we will see. but they seem much more communicative than bitmain...and i got a free first batch T-shirt

[Knightslugger]

well, at the very least it's free heat, or at least very cheap heat.

find the optimism in difficult situations. It's there, you just have to find it.

I have 5 coming late november, and i plan to run them until they burst into flames.

[Marvell2]

well, at the very least it's free heat, or at least very cheap heat.

find the optimism in difficult situations. It's there, you just have to find it.

I have 5 coming late november, and i plan to run them until they burst into flames.

best option really

[mcan]

well, at the very least it's free heat, or at least very cheap heat.

find the optimism in difficult situations. It's there, you just have to find it.

I have 5 coming late november, and i plan to run them until they burst into flames.

i dont see any logic at late november will be already not profit but loss ? So instead of loosing money day by day , we can buy dash directly so if miner doesn't make any profit i can not see any logic to run it.You can buy directly that coin.

Loss means if 1 dash is 1 usd and if we consume 2 usd electricity, to produce it . it means we have -1usd loss per dash. so instead of running such shit  , we can buy directly 2 dash with money without running any miner.

best regards.

[Vann]

I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.

Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month.
BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research.

Simple question do you have anyminer?

Bitmain never said you would make your money back in 6 months. You simply foolishly ASSUMED that would be the case and it looks like you were wrong. That's the risk you take when buying a single purpose machine in a highly speculative market with ZERO resale value after it becomes obsolete. Do your research BEFORE you buy and if you can't afford the risk, DON"T BUY.

who says ? one of bitmain worker who is trying to improve his salary.. huh .

This is not a gamble nor game, if miner does not makes any profit so nobody will buy or operate the miner , this is crystal clear.
Which research did you do ? how do you know howmany units bitmain is going to sell ? so any oversold units can be obsolete after 3 months.So dont tell your sci-fi stories.
You did not do any research and you can not do unless you have information inside the company.

The only thing that's crystal clear is you're an idiot that invests $2,000 in a highly speculative venture and expects the company that's selling the tool to do the research for him. At least you learned it's not as easy as you thought.

[mcan]

I suggest you take your own advice. That fact is the D3 is currently profitable even at 17 GH/s 0.20 cents/kW

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17000&p=1200.00&pc=0.20&pf=3&d=27672778.88251280&r=1.80147602&er=0.04039762&btcer=7401.15170000&hc=0.00

It's not Bitmain's fault your lack of research and understanding led you to believe it would be more profitable, even though you were not ordering once of the first batches.

Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month.
BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research.

Simple question do you have anyminer?

Bitmain never said you would make your money back in 6 months. You simply foolishly ASSUMED that would be the case and it looks like you were wrong. That's the risk you take when buying a single purpose machine in a highly speculative market with ZERO resale value after it becomes obsolete. Do your research BEFORE you buy and if you can't afford the risk, DON"T BUY.

who says ? one of bitmain worker who is trying to improve his salary.. huh .

This is not a gamble nor game, if miner does not makes any profit so nobody will buy or operate the miner , this is crystal clear.
Which research did you do ? how do you know howmany units bitmain is going to sell ? so any oversold units can be obsolete after 3 months.So dont tell your sci-fi stories.
You did not do any research and you can not do unless you have information inside the company.

The only thing that's crystal clear is you're an idiot that invests $2,000 in a highly speculative venture and expects the company that's selling the tool to do the research for him. At least you learned it's not as easy as you thought.

I am not idiot but you are a bastard.

[alexrossi]

siacoin miner is 30. june 2018...we will see. but they seem much more communicative than bitmain...and i got a free first batch T-shirt

That's quite an era in cryptoworld... wish you the best of luck with this kind of preorder

[Vann]

I am not idiot but you are a bastard.

We'll in that case, I'm a bastard with $2,000 more than you have.  

https://youtu.be/WqSTXuJeTks?t=154

[Ben271286]

siacoin miner is 30. june 2018...we will see. but they seem much more communicative than bitmain...and i got a free first batch T-shirt

That's quite an era in cryptoworld... wish you the best of luck with this kind of preorder

yeah thats right...i hope that bitmain will stay away...one unit doesnt hurt that much so...i gave it a try..

[mcan]

I am not idiot but you are a bastard.

We'll in that case, I'm a bastard with $2,000 more than you have.  

https://youtu.be/WqSTXuJeTks?t=154

I am ok  with you  ,  but i have still problem with BITMAIN and its little bastards. And 2k not problem but their attitude is not normal. When you bought iphoneX lower than 2k, you have best service , but BITMAIN really not worth to trust. And need to give some information about this shitty company as much as i can.

[mcan]

how many units they sold ? 100k ?

[lunobird]

how many units they sold ? 100k ?

Not enough. They sold out in seconds. So high of a demand. Bitmain can pump out more if they really wanted to but dash prices been lagging so they are holding back in the best interest of everyone.

Mcan we get it. Your a dash lagger and got screwed. Not everyone wins. Eat your losses and move on and diversify. Your foolish to think your entitled to profits.

If you took a step back and did your research, you would have realized your D3 is just food for the lucky few Masternode holders.

I knew this early on and got pivx instead.

[mcan]

how many units they sold ? 100k ?

Not enough. They sold out in seconds. So high of a demand.

Mcan we get it. Your a dash lagger and got screwed. Not everyone wins. Eat your losses and move on and diversify. Your foolish to think your entitled to profits.

If you took a step back and did your research, you would have realized your D3 is just food for the lucky few Masternode holders.

I knew this early on and got pivx instead.

Who bought S9 everyone,until now, won right ?
Who bought  L3+ everyone won right?

So D3 issue is totally different and 100% bitmain's fraud. They could not sell such number of units with out S9 L3+ references.

So this topic may help to new people who is going to buy any Bitmain's ,scammer company, products.
I think this will become their policy no need to trust anymore , no matter their batch logic .

[poolrunner]

Read the date of this post for future reference: 11/07/2017

I have access to 2 d3s. One on Nicehash and one on Prohash. They equal out to $16/mo. $0.25/day each. Pretty sad.

I have a Baikal a2000 on Nicehash that produces $12/day on x13 so far. Yep, you read that correctly.
I also have minergate contracts that produce $6.00/day.  Yep, you read that correctly.
I have an s9 that produces $20/day. Yep, you read that correctly.
I mine Verium on my laptop. $0.25 per day. Oh well. The laptop does other things too. No loss.

The ROI calculations start with just the daily dollars 6 + 12 + 20 = 38/day. Hello?
$38/day equals $1140.00. I ran the numbers of my returns and costs just on Minergate and found I get a 7.5% return per month or 86.5% / year. Hello?

Go tell your parents you are earning 7% a month and watch the look on their face till you prove it.
U.S. banks are only paying 0.25% / year on savings. Certificates of deposit are based on S)omething H)appens I)n T)ime.

And you wanna B)ark I)ntensely T)o C)reate H)avoc?

Quit running with a sharp pencil and put your head down, now before you hurt yourself or create collateral damage.

But if you only could afford a D3 and have that now, you're screwed.