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1161  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin - new Business Opportunities on: October 20, 2017, 08:20:41 PM
Hi all,

I would like to know if you see some business opportunities in Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency in real market. You can report real case of local business opportunity, for example ATM machines, advisory activites, support to business, lottery, etc...that you have seen in your country or abroad, and that can be easily followed at the own country.

 Wink


in my residence, indeed I have not found anyone who owns a business by using bitcoin.
however I am interested in the business that has happened in swiss country. there is already a private university that receives a fee using bitcoin.
in my opinion, we can do business as well as what happens in swiss, because in addition to universities can serve as business opportunities, also have other benefits that can make many people have the intelligence and science according to what they want by studying in the university.
perhaps the view of people if doing business in an educational institution (including private universities) is less profitable. but for me personally, I prefer that kind of thing, because in addition to profiting in business, our bitcoin can also be useful by spending our money on a path that is beneficial to human life.  Grin
Really, instead of waiting, I think there are so many spots that have not yet been filled yet and it is best to look for those spots and fill them now when it is early and the competitions aren't much. I have been working on starting some several ecommerce in my country with the ability to pay with bitcoin and this is one project that will move pretty fast among others. We don't have to wait for the project to start, we can start them no matter how little.
1162  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: October 20, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
With trading you should have a lot of knowledge for other coins and know which one to invest where and how much it would give you profit and in investing you just have to watch the one you invest grow or go low.
Yes I agree with you here is big difference between these two from trade you can get a daily profit and from investment you have to wait but both of them are profitable and it will help you financially I like investment as compare to trade because from investment I can get all my profit at one time and which can help me in target to achieve.
You are correct but also we can assume in vise-versa. Trading does not have a steady income because the number of profits and losses in trading are constant and we can't predict the future for any coins. But if you are ready for investment than you can have a steady income.

You can just invest a good amount of bitcoins in a good investment scheme like the investment box on yobit on a daily interest basis and you can have some good daily profit there and also the income will be steady there.
1163  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be Taxed...... on: October 20, 2017, 07:00:44 PM
taxation will never work

dex will eliminate that idea

these regulators are fools
Yes, taxation will surely not work on bitcoins but this idea is not a bad idea. Just think about the economy of the country for a minute and forget about your profits and losses. If bitcoins are been taxed a huge amount of tax will be collected by the government as we have a good number of transactions each day in bitcoins.

It can surely help to increase the economy of our country and that is a good act against improving the financial condition of individual country. At least the third party countries should apply this method for developing their country.
1164  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Turning crypto into fiat or is that even nessesary anymore! on: October 19, 2017, 02:41:42 PM
When the country your living in has slow adaptation to bitcoin business and acceptance exchanging cryptocurrency into fiat is rampant and most of them are this who don’t do long term investments. It it clear now that to rage fiat out of individual system of living is for the government to legalized it and for the businesses to add it on they’re options.
That does not necessarily mean. I don’t know about your country but in so many countries including mine, the government has not really declared their stance yet on bitcoin and activities are running normally in exchanges.
Unless the government decides to ban bitcoin and shut down all exchanges, I see no reason why it should be hard for anyone to withdraw into fiat. Maybe I am just saying this from my own experience anyway.
1165  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: when do you buy ? on: October 19, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
I see a lot of people talking about when to sell; but I think that buying is as important if not more (obviously you buy* low -_-). so do you guys aim to buy the lowest low of the day/week/month/... and do you think that is riskier and/or hard to predict. do you wait for price reversals? do you follow expert advice?? please share your thoughts and your stories (successful or otherwise Smiley)
its  most asking question when to buy btc, best time to buy when the price is become down trend and you think the coin has the potential to grow. it can give us more profit and it will be best for good porfit Smiley
If you are really going to be buying for the long term, you should not be basing your purchases only on dips.
As much as I have savings in bitcoin, I also have savings in fiat and I always have a set target of what I want to purchase at a specific time. However, I can never resist free money during dips, so I always buy more knowing I will always have a huge profit back on the rise which usually happens pretty fast this days.
1166  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: October 19, 2017, 07:51:42 AM
I always keep calm when prices fall because when we participate in this market we have to take risks and accept losses if possible. I think in all cases we should shut down the computer and limit the trade during the downtrend
Limiting trade during the downtrend is good but shutting down sometimes is bad. If you lose at a point, you can cut your loss, accept it like you said and then monitor the market to see if you can get back at huge dip. It is patience, a time comes when the market will balance and if you buy at the lowest dip and the market gets pumped back up, you make your profit and even more than you have lost if possible. That is why stop loss is important.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 19, 2017, 05:30:46 AM
Experience is really matter on some type of gambling like poker, blackjack and sportsbook. If you just bet random on this type of gambling, you will lose easily for sure but there are also many type of gambling that no need experience at all.
There is no experience that can assist you to win in some of these games you have mentioned and 99% of it is still based on luck and not experience. The only place experience can help is to know when to stop which to me is something should have even be built right from the onset.
Once you lose, you accept and move on rather than trying to play huge amount to quickly try your luck on recovering your losses. Anything that gives me huge palpitations in the first place, scares me like shit.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: October 19, 2017, 04:02:38 AM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.

I have been a poker player for years. Being successful in the game really requires thorough game analysis. You can learn that from either your own experience or by watching the professionals. As you might already know, bluffing your opponents effectively is the core of the game. Hence, acting prowess is a must have when playing poker.
I really hope it is that easy as you have made it sound. There is no analysis in this as far as I am concerned and what if you are all good at all the things you have stated down now, what then happens? Everything still centers on luck and nothing else. Sure, I have heard of being able to read your opponent and using that to your advantage but I can make you read me wrongly and even use it to my advantage as well.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best way to quit gambling and start trading?? on: October 18, 2017, 06:17:34 PM
i consider these way had equal risk because starting trading with zero knowledge also will makes people losing their money too even faster and it's been human nature that people always be figure out the easier way to earning money and if we compare from both of these then gambling is easier than trading although the results will be unpredictable but they will back again to gamble because they are too lazy to learning from trading
The risks are really just the same if you are trading without knowledge cause that to me seem to be more of gambling as well.

For anyone who wants to trade, it is a game of prediction but with great skills and knowledge, the risks of loosing hugely can be minimized and the chances of profiting are always high compared to gambling where you chances are totally based on luck and there is no analysis or whatsoever you can do to minimize any risk as you are just at the mercy of the house edge.
1170  Economy / Economics / Re: who own the world's biggest bitcoin wallet? on: October 18, 2017, 05:08:46 PM
Possibly, those people who work along side with satoshi are those who holds large volume of bitcoin. But basically, you wouls not know thw identity of those people. Bitcoin allows someone to hold big funds anonymously, this feature was originally made to make private transaction. There is no way you can find out the people behind you BTC address unless you note it and tried to connect it with someone. Bitcoin users can secure their funds because of this anonymousness feature.
You really do have a huge point there. Looking at the posts of satoshi lately on this forum far back as 2010, some people really participated a whole lot in the technology and development of bitcoin. I don't know but it may be possible he paid them a whole lot for that via bitcoin with the value then.

So, your point may be very valid. I won't be surprised that most of the development coming up lately and those who started early back then in the crypto world, such as gambling sites, wallets, exchanges, etc, there are some of these guys who used it as a way to diversify and put what they have to work while they keep dishing out some at the same time.
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regulated Cryptocurrency Betting Just Got a Big Boost in Europe on: October 18, 2017, 03:24:29 PM
regulation won't change anything , bitcoin gambling sites will remain struggle to get a new player.

you know why? they are still have a lot of fear they won't get paid. but yes at least with this regulation rumour some people will try to play here and see the result whether are they feel comfortable enough to stay or just ignore it.
I feel gambling already had a huge boost with bitcoin's existence. There are so much bitcoin gambling sites that have been able to build some reputations for themselves. However, like you said, the regulation would make some impact as people will be more and rest assured of getting their pay.

This more importantly, will cause more adoption for bitcoin as we see more gamblers stepping into the bitcoin world and most of the strong gambling site making a huge load for themselves.
1172  Economy / Economics / Re: JP Morgan buys Bitcoin (after Dimon crashed the market) on: October 17, 2017, 05:35:58 PM
So it was a step to have the price go low so that they can buy coins and hold them until price is high. This banking tycoons are seeing the coins potential,
What were you really expecting in the first place. These are the guys who have always found a way to usually manipulate the market for their own gains. Countries, top guys and everyone knows bitcoin is unstoppable, but due to their position, most of them, probably felt left out for not believing it could work and ended up trying to find the right time in.

The support though is growing stronger, weaker hands are even getting stronger, and there is little no one can do now with FUDs. Most reasonable ones who have nothing to hide such as bill gate, already said it is an innovation that will disrupt and nothing can stop it.
1173  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6000 comming through on: October 17, 2017, 07:21:56 AM
The price going up in an incredible speed, once the rising initiate, it moves like torpedo, if the rising keep on like this, we will have a beautiful Christmas present which is the price hit 7k in this end of year, hopefully the price will keep on going and there are no more sudden bad news, time to pray and enjoy the ride
Even if it stops at a point this year, we are still good as the Christmas is already beautiful. For those who joined last Christmas, I am sure they must have seen the joy bitcoin brings for every Christmas Grin … And next year? That would be like a huge year for bitcoin as we keep looking forward to more ATHs.
1174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin without China on: October 17, 2017, 06:45:46 AM
I believe the news leaks of the Chinese government's ban on Bitcoin trading and perhaps also Bitcoin mining are not FUD anymore. We have seen BTCC and ViaBTC releasing announcements that they will terminate their exchanges by the end of this month. The rest doubtlessly will also follow.

What will happen to "a Bitcoin" without China? Do we really need them to reach new highs?

nothing would really happen to bitcoin without china because as you see thesedays bitcoin is back and still increasing and soon will skyrocket and reaches to the moon, no matter what crisis its facing. the storm has passed and theres a new season that is blooming on to bitcoins and lastly we wont be dead without china or other countries and online exchanges.
Yes its true nothing happen to bitcoin without china when china banned bitcoin in his country so for few days bitcoin was disturbed but then bitcoin come back in his own position but after china banned many of develop countries have accepted bitcoin in their countries and now bitcoin is much more powerful and stronger than ever.
A FUD can not keep in a long time, you need to know the FUD only helps the people created this FUD have benefit, of course I can say the Chinese government or Dimon - CEO JP.Morgan are who have benefit after that FUD.
Large scale traders as well large volume holders can easily create FUD and circulate among the entire user network. In less time. This creates a panic situation among the users who have few or less number of bitcoin in hands. Making this as an opportunity those large volume holders benefit buying low from the small holders. Here nothing to correlate China, which is a legendary participant paving path for digital growth.
Exactly, there are whales and they are in the market. FUDs are ways they can easily manipulate the market and make do with huge gains. This is what everyone should know by now and for long term holders not to bother much about when they see those signals
1175  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: October 14, 2017, 01:25:37 PM
Just tell to those local business that bitcoin is really improve and it can help our economic ,if they have knowledge about bitcoin im pretty sure that they really accept bitcoin for payment.  And also if they know how fast and easily use bitcoin.
The knowledge is just what is important. Most of them are still in the dark and as much as some have been getting the hint, they are still very lazy to research on their own and find out all about it except the owners of the local businesses themselves are very much conversant and decides to take the step.

Those are the kind of people that can still be encouraged. However, I feel there is no need to rush, everything will take its course in due time and you won't even need to encourage local businesses as they will see what others are doing themselves and find out how to imbibe such as well in their business.
1176  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: October 14, 2017, 01:05:53 PM
Savings in banks Deposits in banks Property investments, such as buying property (land and buildings) are then leased or resold after some time later. Gold investment, such as buying gold and then stored for the long term. May be useful in the long run. and produce a decent and satisfactory. or farming to buy sawan and gardening and planting fruits and vegetables is a very good investment. Although a little vulnerable to failure but it could not hurt to try.
I believe it is. Many would attest to that. Many who used or who are using bitcoin was able to improve their living. Some even said that before bitcoin they were no one, but now they became someone because of bitcoin. So I believe that bitcoin is a good and wise investment.
Bitcoin is the life changing investment and it has changed a lot of people it raises their living standards and allow them to have what they desire, this was only possible because they made a right decision on the right time so that now they are enjoying every lavish of life and they recommend this to others also and all this shows that bitcoin is the good choice to invest.
For those who got into bitcoin very early, it has really paid for them if they actually utilized those moments and all they got well. However, this is still an early chance for those who might want to consider upcoming years.

It took more than seven years for those who invested in 2009/2010 to be as rich as they are today so I wonder when some people who are just coming compares themselves to these guys. The most important is now and the same value you would have gotten few years ago, is still normal to get now and hope for a positive future.
1177  Economy / Economics / Re: Appreciation of bitcoin on: October 14, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
Bitcoin totally change my personal point of view, At first i start with curiosity, never thought in my mind that it will gradually change our way of living, I belong from the simplest form of living and look what i am now. I can afford to buy my needs and travel wherever i want. Its Amazing Smiley
It is really amazing truly. So many opportunities, so many life changes and so on and so forth. Once people start getting to know that the opportunities abounds, then we will start seeing even the unemployed finding chances to make the best for themselves in life.

You don't need a soothsayer to tell you, you still have to work hard, but working hard and experiencing the best doing so is just perfect compared to what the government has been dishing to us in the past.
1178  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Restaurants accepting bitcoin! on: October 14, 2017, 12:01:08 PM
it's very good advancement. but I was disappointed only available in usa, the restaurant that receives payment with bitcoin. I'm hoping that's available in with our country
You should not worry about that yet. Adoption is gradually increasing worldwide and I am sure everyone is already seeing the manifestation of that. A time will come when you will have between so many different cryptocurrencies to pay with and not just only bitcoin in your country. The fact that some countries are already taking that step now is even a more positive gear towards more adoption by other countries.
1179  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How erning over 100000 satoshi/wekly on: October 14, 2017, 10:58:08 AM
First I apologize to moderators and administrators I do not know where to put this topic, if it does not fit here please move it to the right place, Thanks!

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I strongly suggest campaigns which can give more than what you asks and sometimes bonus added, but if it is  another way, it may be faucets which can give a lot depending on your luck and gives interests too. But if you want a stable way to earn bitcoin weekly, it truly is campaign that you should join since it requires less effort, only thinking skills and on topic answers needed.
Faucets really ? Only if you want to devote all your time of the day in clicking all the available faucets, I still find it hard to believe you can make 100k sats in a week. Those days are gone when BTC still has less value and you can see faucets giving you like 500 sats hourly.

If you see anyone giving you 50 sats now, you should thank your stars. However, there are better things you can do with your time that clicking on faucets cause they can never be worth it. And you have missed the train a long time ago when a site was giving out 5 btc.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: October 14, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
there are possibilities of making profit from it. Take for example hufflepuff(though he cheated so not the best example), and some others who have a strong discipline to cash out when they have made enough.
I have always believed that if someone is getting rich by gambling that means he is not an honest person. Not all but some of the rich gamblers must have fooled others to win money. Otherwise, it is not very easy to earn easy money.

People who just won't be satisfied are always those who get broke.
Yes, true. I don't trust gambling with profits. It cannot give us huge amounts of money and I advise all my friends who are spending full days with gambling, not to even try to make it an income source.
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