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1181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 27, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
---None reversible quotes---

Thats it !! i'm gonna contact my lawyer !! eh, as soon as my lawyer is sober again

You can use my lawyer Wink
1182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 27, 2015, 07:30:08 PM
For fun, do any of the regular posters want to bet me about what time block 227120 will arrive  Grin
I will stake 1 full darkcoin on block 227120 coming in before 1PM GMT friday afternoon,  do you want to bet it will come after 1 PM , does anyone dare me, I promise to stand by the bet  Cool

Edit: Will come back and check in the morning, will take only the first 2 bets if there are more than one, dont want to lose too much! ...
We should hit this block about 12:25 GMT Wink I put 1 drk for it, so if someone have other thinking let`s bet Cheesy

1+1 of ours bet, so 2 drk for hiting the block before 1GMT Cheesy
I bet ya'll are right, at least i hope so because my mn's should be getting paid on saturday.  Grin
Finally some good luck!
I love watching the increases and saved the links everyone posted, thanks.
40% is huge but 50% will be very symbolic. The future is bright for darkcoin.
Accepted, so if we hit this block afte 1PM GMT we send you 1  drk each Smiley if not you send us 1 drk Smiley

Excellent Splawik21 to play the game  Grin I was not expecting someone else to take my side of the bet but if thats ok with MasterMined710 and yourself, its fine with me. For my end, the betting is now closed, am working on friday but will check in the late afternooon to sort our winnings out  Grin
If I win,send here please, lol ...
XvD1DHXbSbBRmzCtRJNrm23YWJCcQvT1RA


I'm confused, lol.  I did not mean to bet but that's cool. if i win i will send the drk to elbereth.
MasterMined710,Hi  Grin, is bad news I'm afraid, it looks like the infamous block number 227120 was created at 12:14 PM today. Looks like you have pay out me and Splawik21 sorry. Better luck next time!
http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/00000000000ac8ec92d62b4a7a5c5308c525d52e68269e3c1e9e300091e8d4a6

My address, thanks  Grin
XvD1DHXbSbBRmzCtRJNrm23YWJCcQvT1RA
1183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 26, 2015, 11:20:11 PM
I'm confused, lol.  I did not mean to bet but that's cool. if i win i will send the drk to elbereth.
Think you kind of got dragged into that, but if you're alright with on the other side of the bet then all good.
My block averaging calculations over a small snapshot suggested an average block generation time of 2.63 minutes and just before 1 PM, but was a sloppy with the workings and its random anyway so you might win, I figured 1 PM was a fair and fun time  Grin
And we could always do this again on future masternode payment increments like on 244400  Cool ...
1184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 26, 2015, 08:55:14 AM
For fun, do any of the regular posters want to bet me about what time block 227120 will arrive  Grin
I will stake 1 full darkcoin on block 227120 coming in before 1PM GMT friday afternoon,  do you want to bet it will come after 1 PM , does anyone dare me, I promise to stand by the bet  Cool

Edit: Will come back and check in the morning, will take only the first 2 bets if there are more than one, dont want to lose too much! ...
We should hit this block about 12:25 GMT Wink I put 1 drk for it, so if someone have other thinking let`s bet Cheesy

1+1 of ours bet, so 2 drk for hiting the block before 1GMT Cheesy
I bet ya'll are right, at least i hope so because my mn's should be getting paid on saturday.  Grin
Finally some good luck!
I love watching the increases and saved the links everyone posted, thanks.
40% is huge but 50% will be very symbolic. The future is bright for darkcoin.
Accepted, so if we hit this block afte 1PM GMT we send you 1  drk each Smiley if not you send us 1 drk Smiley

Excellent Splawik21 to play the game  Grin I was not expecting someone else to take my side of the bet but if thats ok with MasterMined710 and yourself, its fine with me. For my end, the betting is now closed, am working on friday but will check in the late afternooon to sort our winnings out  Grin
If I win,send here please, lol ...
XvD1DHXbSbBRmzCtRJNrm23YWJCcQvT1RA
1185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 26, 2015, 12:37:12 AM
For fun, do any of the regular posters want to bet me about what time block 227120 will arrive  Grin
I will stake 1 full darkcoin on block 227120 coming in before 1PM GMT friday afternoon,  do you want to bet it will come after 1 PM , does anyone dare me, I promise to stand by the bet  Cool

Edit: Will come back and check in the morning, will take only the first 2 bets if there are more than one, dont want to lose too much! ...
1186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 25, 2015, 09:21:45 PM
UK "Finance Minister".....

Is there something we're missing or are they just very slow on the uptake and implications? I can't imagine Georgie being so supportive when someone points out he won't be able to create inter-generational debt for endless wars or take cash back handers from the banks to be their lapdog any more. Fiat based gov. debt and real POW blockchain tech are not happy bed fellows.
1187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 25, 2015, 07:44:34 PM
What a boring week in crypto.

well theres always the world news and the latest massive currency collapse caused by the most blatant coup ever,
http://rt.com/business/235375-ukraine-hryvnia-currency-crisis/
you would not want to be on the other end of this day trade!
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=UAH&to=USD&view=2Y
1188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 25, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
I saw someone mention that they've been Otoh'd..... I know what that's like, it really sucks when you are trying to increase your DRK stash and need to price to fall to a certain point to buy back and the wall walks higher and basically causes you to lose.  I got caught a couple of times......

Without the walls we would probably be trading at half of the current price and Otoh could quietly buy a little here and there without affecting prices to much.  I would love to know what his "grand plan" is and why the overt manipulation of the price which is causing him to pay more for coins than he really needs to.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see that Otoh believes in DRK and is part of our community.  I've said it before though..... He's in this to make money, not give to charity (which I'm sure he does outside of the exchanges)........I fear the day he decides to take his ball and go home.  

Yer, it was me,  Roll Eyes all the charts, low volume and macd suggested it was a good day to day trade lol, but the bitcoinwisdom depth chart had not updated quick enough to show the creeping wall had changed to all the legs eleven! hey ho Grin
Although the giant bottom is not without it's rewards (price has doubled, it was .0064 ish when Otoh started).
Imagine an analogy,
real whales have little fish called sucker fish(ironic name eh) that swim along side them and even attach themselves, which rely on the whale to provide protection, the whale supplies parasites and detritus(e.g. weak hands) for the fishes to snack upon and in return this helps the whale stay healthy so its a beneficial symbiotic relationship, that is what most of us are, little fishes riding in the wake of the whale, and if the whale ever dies, the fishes lose their 'protection' and will scuttle their separate ways.
But I agree with jestah, its made getting more masternodes a bitch though of course the masternode payouts measured in btc are double, this is the jackal and hyde nature of ol Otoh's wall-if you're in already thats fine and dandy. It also tends to create a more elitist system if you don't get in early enough.
1189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 24, 2015, 08:27:35 PM
Darkcoin passes Dogecoin again on coinmarketcap and is number 5 (number 3 if you put a filter on non-mineable and premined .. which we really should)


My filter is particularly strong, it only leaves Darkcoin and alien news speak,
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/141/7/9/they_live_we_sleep_by_roflwaffle07-d661euf.png
Can Raptor73 stick a darkcoin somewhere in the picture ?
1190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 24, 2015, 07:24:33 PM
This day trader is calling the top  Grin

cuz of the first privacy-centric cryptographic currency.
Damn, the creeping wall of doom, I think I just got Otohed!  Roll Eyes
1191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 24, 2015, 07:12:51 PM
This day trader is calling the top  Grin
1192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 24, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Guys, some advice please.

  I'm really bad at math, except if I use Excel or SPSS ...  Shocked

 How can I calculate/predict (within obvious logic that markets can go crazy at any given second) ... the margin difference between using my Paypal with credit on in with www.weselldark.com , vs sending back to my bank, up to exchange, convert to BTC, convert to DRK ?
...

localbitcoins would be quicker. what are the charges for paypal to the exchange?

Localbitcoins in Portugal... I'd spend more on gas money than in charges (i think, will check)

 weselldark.com, right now, sells 1 DRK = 3.015298 USD

I see localbitcoins.com in Portugal selling 1 btc = 210 Euro = $237.5   (currently 1 euro = $1.13 at exchanges)
So if cryptsy sells 1 darkcoin at .0109 btc then $237.5 * .0109 = $2.58875 per darkcoin plus around about 0.5 % cryptsy transfer/exchange fees so $2.58875 + .5% charges = $2.60 per darkcoin  and you will get 91.2 darkcoins = 210 Euro = $237.5
This is somewhat cheaper and there is also paypal charges to add onto the $3.01 cost of weselldark to consider and if you wait and buy at cryptsy bottom around .0104 you will save another 5% as well !
1193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 24, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
Guys, some advice please.

  I'm really bad at math, except if I use Excel or SPSS ...  Shocked

 How can I calculate/predict (within obvious logic that markets can go crazy at any given second) ... the margin difference between using my Paypal with credit on in with www.weselldark.com , vs sending back to my bank, up to exchange, convert to BTC, convert to DRK ?
...

localbitcoins would be quicker. what are the charges for paypal to the exchange?
1194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 23, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Also, someone please explain to me how a 'side chain' is functionally different from an 'alt coin.'

The only one I used (and not much) was mastercoin. I had to run the mastercoin client on top of bitcoins to synch the 2 blockchains together and have mastercoin running on as a second client, constantly synching with btc's blockchain to produce a connected sidechain.
This enabled an exchange system of buy/sells for btc/msc within the mastercoin wallet much like a normal exchange which was quite impressive at the time (1 yr ago) but the project never seemed to go much further than that. Its using bitcoin as the backbone and other coins ride on it's back, you can create other coins easily of course within the so called bitcoin 2.0 environment and trade between them.

Additional: the more I think about it, the more its just another alt coin with fancy pairing abilities, you are right, lol.
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 23, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
My blood is still boiling! Come on team, let's show this clown a distraction! Can someone make a meme with this subject? I'd love to tweet it!

Looks like the new bitcoin bilderberger elite, while they are still thinking bitcoin 2.0 is a quirky new idea, the Darkcoin team skipped part 2 and went straight to part 3 to save time!
1196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 23, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
Evan is absolutely, 100% a single point of failure.  While devs like Vertoe are amazing and worth their weight in gold, I do not believe (but would love to be wrong) that they can step into Evans shoes and get Darkcoin's core code to the point it needs to be.  There will come a point where Evan is no longer a single point of failure, but at this point, if Evan got hit by a bus or pulled a Mr. Spread, the value of Darkcoin would tank.  I suspect that won't be the case a year from now.

As someone who had a closer look or three into the Darkcoin-coding let me slightly disagree with you.

I am 100% positive that flare, vertoe and UdjinM6, supported by "my first language is blockchain!"-Aswan, "I integrate KeePass in one weekend"-freynder and Patrick "Netfilter" McHardy can do this.

Will it be easy? Certainly not.

Will they need a helping and or two? You bet!

But Darkcoin will survive!

+1

Crowning, you're more than just a pretty face  Grin
1197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 23, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
Oh god, he disapeared?

If it turns out, El Spreado was on an extended Chinese New Year holiday and was merely buying the dip in stealth mode and he comes storming back with yet more game changing ideas, are you going to dump us again at the merest hint of fresh github updates and sell your 20 btc's of darkcoin at a loss then or what?  Roll Eyes
1198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 23, 2015, 06:18:09 PM
I just added 20btc worth of DRK to my position.  This is the first Darkcoin purchase I have made in a LONG time.  I am still very bothered by the centralized reference node Darkcoin employs and hope that removing it becomes a priority.  In my opinion, Darkcoin is vulnerable in its dominant position as the king of anonymity until that happens.  All it will take is one top tier dev who sees the chink in Darkcoin's armor and doesn't fucking disappear Wink

Once the reference node issue is finally resolved, I suspect we'll be seeing ATH's for Darkcoin.

Removal of the reference node is absolutely a priority. Instead of a blockchain based solution, I was thinking it could use the same exact logic as InstantX, just collect 20 of 30 signatures. If you get 20+ for one address, then it wins and is enforced. So the masternode network as a whole becomes the reference node.
Evan, thanks for clarifying,every step makes a more hack resistant and stronger decentralized network-I actually thought the masternodes did the signatures already for most things!  lol.
My question is, can the blockchain possibly be altered in advance of the transactions so that when instantX is sent it has 5 real confirmations in the blockchain previously, by having the transaction already taken place? (but the private key has not been assigned perhaps)
For example, lets say, 10 minor transactions are made every block for coins of values 0,1...8,9 darkcoin and placed in the blockchain on a reserved part of the block but the destination address has not been decided or signed for (but almost). Hence if I send you 1 darkcoin, the 1 POW confirmation afterwards is combined with 5 POW's in 5 previous blocks, so attaining the somewhat impossible action of having already done 5 POW's in the past once it is signed off.
Obviously there would have to be a transaction limit, in this case of 1+2+3....+8+9+10 coins per block(but could alter in size in future blocks based on averages from the previous) but you get the idea.
Can a workaround like this be done to alter previous blocks, or essentially is this what instantX does anyway in a different way?  Grin
1199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 22, 2015, 05:40:10 PM
tungfa you're a goddamn one man Dark Legion.  Smiley
+1

Sunday musings,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_Autonomous_Organization
Evolutionary Paths to DAOs
    Participative – users voluntarily and independently participate in loose tasks.
    Collaborative – users collaborate and add value towards common goals or objectives.
    Co-operative – users expects some shared gains to be returned.
    Distributed – starts the propagation of these functions by multiplying them across a wider net.
    Decentralized – further scalability is reached by instilling more powers to the edges.
    Autonomous – autonomous agents, smart programs, and (later) increased levels of artificial intelligence and AI algorithms will provide  self-sustainability in operations and value creation at the centers, edges and arteries of an organization.

http://www.coindesk.com/succeed-as-decentralized-autonomous-organization/
1200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 22, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Does anyone know how to re-broadcast a transaction in bitcoin client? Long story short. I sent some BTC for betting which had won. But I accidentally sent more BTC(from same wallet but on my phone) to that betting address after the bet was over. I panic and spent that BTC in MY desktop wallet as well. Know it says conflicted and all the BTC appeared in by desktop wallet. So it will never get a confirmation in the block. Anyways to make my wallet to rebroadcast that transaction?

You need to getrawtransaction <your transaction ID>​, copy and paste hex string and sendrawtransaction from a different wallet, so it will re broadcast (same IP is fine, doesn't matter)
The DRKlord sussed it out, read on, its not as hard as it may first appear.
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/frozen-transactions-why-it-happens-and-how-to-fix-it.1649/
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