Selling large amount of t_ICN tokens for ICO price!! Minimum purchase amount is 1 t-BTC
Who is in?

GM, MR.P

still can't figure out why one would sell ICN tokens before first dividends are paid

I seriously doubt that Iconomi team cares about ICN price short term. Before the platform is live and kicking (2 active funds minimum) price is just speculation

a second hardfork is planned. Also - less than one day is not enough testing for release like that

How will you change the registered email in ico website? He can always invoke the forgot password option and have a reset password link sent to his email.
In my opinion it is too risky, and not supported by Iconomi team - you can get f***ed

I'd wait for exchanges - have my BTC in place and wait for first day trading

Agree. The next 2 years are going to be very excited for Iconomi shareholders

From FAQs:
Could something like the Dao happen with this?

No. The DAO had a bug in the code with lots of ETH inside and that's what brought it down. ICONOMI cryptocurrencies are kept in multiple cold storage addresses and there is no way to directly interact with them via a smart contract.

I believe dashboard shows 2 decimal places. In reality the exact amount of tokens is 8 decimal points. In your case .051643268159705011 ~ .05

start with FAQs - it is always a good idea. If you have read the FAQs already, what exactly is not clear?

I can't wait for the platform to go live. Token distribution date is not as important as developing the platform. Token distribution is important in order to define ownership, thus it has to be step 1.
It is not important in regards to trading before there is an operational platform with min 2 active funds

Loosing faith in WHAT? Does your "faith" refer to "gimmie the tokens asap so I can dump them on the market"?
If your faith is elsewhere, let's say in the PLATFORM (the actual reason for the ICO to take place) and the services it will offer, so no faith should be lost.

Why would they have? Other team members wrote, and will keep writing, official company updates on https://medium.com/iconominet
I don't see any added value in the backend or mobile devs, marketing, or legal being active here, on reddit or any other forums. It is not their job. I'd prefer them stay away from all that background noise as much as possible and focus on what they should to. I do believe it is one of the other team members job (CORPORATE COMMUNICATIONS) to do that.

Not sure it is bad thing, unless you need the money urgently.
You are right - the most important thing is for the team to keep developing the platform. token distribution is not related to it. I believe that due to all problems with ether network it created overload on the team and thus caused some delay on the core product development. Or maybe not. Jani and Jaka are dealing with all front-end communications (pretty well!), and I believe they let the devs do their job

I do understand (partially) people being so eager, what I don't get is why they cannot read and try to understand the real cause of the delay. It can save a lot of whining and false accusations

IMO there is no perfect or better way - it is always a trade-off.

Generating your private key online is not wise. myetherwallet is a complete client side key generator (you can test it with dev tools-->network and make sure that not a single bit is sent from the browser during the key generation). You can indeed download the source code from the official website and do that completely offline like suggested earlier.

Desktop wallets - the problem, or the vulnerability, is when you generate the wallet and password or when signing a transaction online - if your PC is compromised (most times you won't be aware it is) you may lose your wallet balance.
Another risk with desktop wallets is forgetting your password or losing the keystore file. Yes, backups can and should be made, but each backup increases the chance that it will be stolen (again - trade-off).
In any case, DO NOT store your backup file anywhere online - you may be a subject to brute force without even knowing that. In that case it is only a matter of time until your password will be cracked.
Personally my problem with desktop wallets is that there is no 2FA.
You can generate your "wallet" offline on clean PC and sign the spend transactions offline - this should be as secured as you can get in case you remember your password and your keystore file was not stolen.

Offline/paper storage - the most secure way to store your tokens. The downsides are physical damage or lost (especially if it is planned for long store) and theft. Usually used for long-term storage.

Last and not least: Keep your tokens on Iconomi platform. The advantage is that you are getting good security (offline multi-sig cold storage) with relatively easy but still secured way to spend the funds (login credentials, 2FA and email verification).
The trade-off - technically speaking, you don't have control over your own funds. This is where TRUST plays major role. So far (looking back ~4 years), Iconomi team had given us zero reasons not to trust them.
Personal advice for all people out there that don't feel comfortable with wallets, offline generators, keystores, etc - make a strong, long (minimum 16 unique characters, no words or qwerty-based phrase), and unique password for Iconomi platform login and keep your precious tokens on Iconomi platform. If you chose that option, make sure that your email and Iconomi passwords have nothing in common and are not used anywhere else.

Remember: If you screw something with your own wallet - you may lose your tokens forever! Add that to the trade-off calculation before deciding.


Some of the things were written here before, it is not all out of my head, but more like a summary.
Hope it helps

and keyboard?

Bitcoin as paying dividends. Not as a platform for asset tokens

Don't you think that counterparty low trading volume and low supply makes it a no-go? I think low supply is why it is not listed in ICNX

We still need to give ether network a chance.
Regarding other platforms - my main concerns are:
1. Iconomi would be the first major project deployment. Not good idea when it comes down to managed funds platform.
2. Liquidity. If you look at the trading volume of all other alternatives, it can be a major problem for high volume weekly transactions.

Bitcoin would be the best option, but it is expensive.
So it looks like we stay with ether for now.

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else