[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[p4xil]

Everyone can always make an ETH fork and fix all the bugs and create best blockchain if they want. But it is easier to complain, right?

[p4xil]

It doesn't matter really.
HF is like update... Like Apple posts update for iOS. So if they need to make 100 HFs to make blockchain stable and impenetrable, let them do it and move on.
In the end we will have perfect product.

people spreading disinformation doesnt matter ?
glad i dont live in your world

There was no disinformation.

Read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/d8ymgqd

[Daparski]

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As planned ?
The second planned fork was to clear out all the empty accounts used in the attacks.
Not fix something that could have been fixed in the first fork,if it had indeed been anticipated.

#clusterfuck

And that 2nd fork was not even mandatory to do it. they could skip it now they won't becouse another security hole have to be patched.
I wonder how many tricks have that guy in hands.

It doesn't matter really.
HF is like update... Like Apple posts update for iOS. So if they need to make 100 HFs to make blockchain stable and impenetrable, let them do it and move on.
In the end we will have perfect product.

I think hard fork does matter. A lot.
HF is not just another Apple update. You forgot to mention the most important part - community consensus (miners, devs, etc). Today's fork is due to security flaw in the protocol. The previous one was a moldy bailout for some "poor" funded application running on top of the protocol. So if another bailout fork like that will come some (sunny) day - we may see another group of the community forks.

[bones]

people spreading disinformation doesnt matter ?
glad i dont live in your world

There was no disinformation.

Read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/d8ymgqd

New ETH attacks happening 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

"It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):"

that wasnt the plan for the 2nd fork - misinformation.....

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/10/18/faq-upcoming-ethereum-hard-fork/

"second hard fork is expected to address a number of less urgent matters such as removing empty accounts which the attacker used to flood the Ethereum network, and which caused the size of the blockchain to inflate."

[JamesSany]

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

[DaniellPlasmmer]

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

[Frosxh]

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

[drnash85]

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

How does one know the hash if they do not have the address?? So Proof of name to tx is not needed.

[JamesSany]

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

Not easy bro.there was an email conversation stored in escrows inbox.you should ask refund from the same email.

[favdesu]

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

[rapazev]

New ETH attacks happening 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

[favdesu]

New ETH attacks happening 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

[DaniellPlasmmer]

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

How does one know the hash if they do not have the address?? So Proof of name to tx is not needed.

If he knows a unique escrow address, he can track the transactions.

[Daparski]

New ETH attacks happening 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else

[bones]

What's weird is that link, you know, the one linking to the comment posted by Vitalik Buterin before the attack began (hence: "anticipated")?  Yeah.  The one where he says "an increase in the gas cost of the EXP opcode is likely in HF round 2" (hence: "planned").  Right, that one.  Yeah, that contradicts everything you're saying.

The 2nd fork hasn't happened yet.  Plans can change up until the moment the 2nd HF actually happens.

Here's an example maybe you can wrap your head around:

On Monday you make plans to meet a friend at the pub on Friday.  On Tuesday you tell your friend, "hey, I'm inviting someone to come to the pub with us on Friday."  Should your friend throw a temper tantrum and claim it no longer constitutes a plan because you decided to invite someone?

The point is, this whiny FUD has no point other than to be whiny FUD.  Does it?  Of course not.

#shittyreadingcomprehension
#quityourFUD

i see no timestamp on that comment you claim was made before the first fork.  proof ?
if it was anticipated why wasnt it fixed in the first fork when the whole point of it was to adjust the price of underpriced opcodes?

why so angry?

[DaniellPlasmmer]

New ETH attacks happening 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated.  Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

[XbladeX]

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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

personally i was hoping that 1 billion coin will be more polished and you can start business like ICONOMI without any problems.
In 3 years we will see which platform will be better Eth,Lisk,Waves or maybe something that we don't know now.
If ETH will keep failing and forking then probably will lose 1st mover advantage.

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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get  dividend you sell with no big spread.
If  ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

[Frosxh]

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

[XbladeX]

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

We will see how that second attack will affect ETH.
If they will be able to start test contract then all will be ok.

[DaniellPlasmmer]

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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get  dividend you sell with no big spread.
If  ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?