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Author Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform  (Read 1253991 times)
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October 19, 2016, 03:43:46 PM
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yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.
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October 19, 2016, 03:53:05 PM
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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

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October 19, 2016, 03:57:02 PM
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So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

How does one know the hash if they do not have the address?? So Proof of name to tx is not needed.

If he knows a unique escrow address, he can track the transactions.
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October 19, 2016, 03:59:11 PM
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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else
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October 19, 2016, 04:01:56 PM
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What's weird is that link, you know, the one linking to the comment posted by Vitalik Buterin before the attack began (hence: "anticipated")?  Yeah.  The one where he says "an increase in the gas cost of the EXP opcode is likely in HF round 2" (hence: "planned").  Right, that one.  Yeah, that contradicts everything you're saying.

The 2nd fork hasn't happened yet.  Plans can change up until the moment the 2nd HF actually happens.

Here's an example maybe you can wrap your head around:

On Monday you make plans to meet a friend at the pub on Friday.  On Tuesday you tell your friend, "hey, I'm inviting someone to come to the pub with us on Friday."  Should your friend throw a temper tantrum and claim it no longer constitutes a plan because you decided to invite someone?

The point is, this whiny FUD has no point other than to be whiny FUD.  Does it?  Of course not.

#shittyreadingcomprehension
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i see no timestamp on that comment you claim was made before the first fork.  proof ?
if it was anticipated why wasnt it fixed in the first fork when the whole point of it was to adjust the price of underpriced opcodes?

why so angry?
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October 19, 2016, 04:02:28 PM
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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?
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October 19, 2016, 04:03:44 PM
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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising
personally i was hoping that 1 billion coin will be more polished and you can start business like ICONOMI without any problems.
In 3 years we will see which platform will be better Eth,Lisk,Waves or maybe something that we don't know now.
If ETH will keep failing and forking then probably will lose 1st mover advantage.

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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get  dividend you sell with no big spread.
If  ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

Request / 26th September / 2022 APP-06-22-4587
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October 19, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
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So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

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October 19, 2016, 04:09:24 PM
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So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

We will see how that second attack will affect ETH.
If they will be able to start test contract then all will be ok.

Request / 26th September / 2022 APP-06-22-4587
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October 19, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get  dividend you sell with no big spread.
If  ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?
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October 19, 2016, 04:15:29 PM
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I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?

Imagine you want as ICONOMI buy Lisk for 200 000$ for dividends then you rise price +10% -lisk volume is about 250k$
Then when you sell Lisk you dump price -10%... In worst  case scenario you lose ~10-15% by conversion of assets.

Now ETH has 6m$ Volume when you buy/sell 200 000$ eth for dividends you not bounce price even.
You can sell buy ETH and have 1%-2% loss

Request / 26th September / 2022 APP-06-22-4587
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October 19, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
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Dont matter, icn will gain the market..
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October 19, 2016, 04:23:14 PM
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So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?
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October 19, 2016, 04:23:45 PM
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Hi guys, is there an official link with clear statement about the timestamp of the road map of distribution? I didn`t found any on blog, FB, Twitter or here.
BTW, it is good that ETH will add ICN native.

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October 19, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
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i see no timestamp on that comment you claim was made before the first fork.  proof ?
if it was anticipated why wasnt it fixed in the first fork when the whole point of it was to adjust the price of underpriced opcodes?

why so angry?

I have very little patience for ignorance.  Apologies if I'm hurting your feelings.

If you hover over the "1 day ago" on Vitalik's comment a tooltip pops up telling you the timestamp in your local timezone.  Compare to that the creation date of the EXP opcode attack contract here:

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4ac5ec2d69b309e28c7174efa56db6fa9e2fc4bab335082767b6a4075bc9f334

Have anymore misleading FUD you'd like to spread?

why would you assume ive hurt feelings, your no one to me.  idc
difdnt answer my other questions now did you...
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October 19, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
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If Iconomi would to move to Lisk you can bet that Lisk wouldn't have a $20M marketcap but more like $200M-$500M and the daily trading volume would also be in the millions...

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I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?

Imagine you want as ICONOMI buy Lisk for 200 000$ for dividends then you rise price +10% -lisk volume is about 250k$
Then when you sell Lisk you dump price -10%... In worst  case scenario you lose ~10-15% by conversion of assets.

Now ETH has 6m$ Volume when you buy/sell 200 000$ eth for dividends you not bounce price even.
You can sell buy ETH and have 1%-2% loss
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October 19, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
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Isn't there enough GAS on Ethereum now to do ICN distribution?

What's the hold up?


I think its the time zones aren't they CET. Plus I just sent plenty of coins through the network minutes ago.
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October 19, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
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Isn't there enough GAS on Ethereum now to do ICN distribution?

Isn't the GAS LIMIT above 3,000,000 now? I thought they just need something like 800,000 GAS
https://ethstats.net/

What's the hold up? Can someone please explain?


Google CET
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October 19, 2016, 05:05:01 PM
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Move ICN to Synereo ?
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October 19, 2016, 05:09:08 PM
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Move ICN to Synereo ?

Synereo, Waves, Lisk or NXT?
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