Is it worth it? You decide. If the community cannot agree to this, then I will leave it. I need the blessing of the community or I cant touch this.
@Vegas, The Community have disagreed to the hostile takeover, leave it at that !! .... This is my first coin ever, and the last. There will only be one coin ever by me...
Vegas
Vegasgay broke his words on this... Who will still trust you if you fail to keep your words?
When Vegas sells FLY as his one and only coin ever, (His words not anyone else's), then instructs people to take him literally on his word, then starts a takeover and dev another coin he has absolutely broken his promise.
Looking forward to another scam ridden coin swap controlled by you, yet another shifty way for you to invent a new coin supply so that you and your trusted team take it all before it even gets off the ground. I really like the way you are creating 'special' wallets just for you (and your trusted team of course) that can stake more than anyone else. Real classy.
Way to show exactly how full of shit you are Vegas. You are everything you pretend to hate in crypto. Always have been.
You better get to explaining to everyone here why you are pissing on your word that this is your one and only coin. Sorry about that FLY investors, Vegas is creating an even more unique and more expensive coin. Trust Team FLY indeed.
Vegasguy!!you have absolutely broken your promises.
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Is it worth it? You decide. If the community cannot agree to this, then I will leave it. I need the blessing of the community or I cant touch this.
@Vegas, The Community have disagreed to the hostile takeover, leave it at that !! .... This is my first coin ever, and the last. There will only be one coin ever by me...
Vegas
Vegasgay broke his words on this... Who will still trust you if you fail to keep your words?
When Vegas sells FLY as his one and only coin ever, (His words not anyone else's), then instructs people to take him literally on his word, then starts a takeover and dev another coin he has absolutely broken his promise.
Looking forward to another scam ridden coin swap controlled by you, yet another shifty way for you to invent a new coin supply so that you and your trusted team take it all before it even gets off the ground. I really like the way you are creating 'special' wallets just for you (and your trusted team of course) that can stake more than anyone else. Real classy.
Way to show exactly how full of shit you are Vegas. You are everything you pretend to hate in crypto. Always have been.
You better get to explaining to everyone here why you are pissing on your word that this is your one and only coin. Sorry about that FLY investors, Vegas is creating an even more unique and more expensive coin. Trust Team FLY indeed.
Vegasguy!!you have absolutely broken your promises.
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Wow, his pet developer replied! Permission to get of your leash today?
Vegasguy is a scammer
Oh... Something goes very wrong here. Do you like someone else release FLY2 to dilute 99% of your current FLY shares? Think about it before you continue to proceed.
They (Team greedy FLY) must start a completely new coin!Maybe we should create FLY2 /FLY II coin then they would know how to feel about a "hostile takeover" with no compromises!!?
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You must use name other than XDE if you continue, otherwise it will confuse the exchanges where we are currently listing or voting on. Don't do it if you really love XDE.
Do you like someone else release FLY2 to dilute 99% of your current FLY shares? Think about it before you continue to proceed.
FLY2 , i likes it!!! Leave out all of those stupid fees, which just flow in Vegas pocket from da Lemmings. Ya could market it as the Working flycoin without all of the lies & crap spread by Vegas & Team Fly ( Lemmings) now da crappy Flycoin , or as it will be called in a few weeks, FLY POOP coin. Shame , Vegas and Team Lemming won't listen. But his version of compromise is only if ya completely agree with him. Narcissist like Vegas are not know for listening skills. Definition of Narcissist / Vegasguy Self-important and conceited, the narcissist exaggerates accomplishments, requires endless praise, and has an uncanny ability to quash the achievements of others. They lack empathy and don’t seem aware that you are a whole person with your own needs. In fact, you’re only a useful tool, something to extract admiration from. The narcissist believes they’re entitled to everything, including your time, your emotions and your self-esteem.Just Sayin, AG18
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They (Team greedy FLY) must start a completely new coin!Maybe we should create FLY2 /FLY2 coin then they would know how to feel about a "hostile takeover" with no Compromises!!?
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Oh... Something goes very wrong here. Ok actually NOT a hostile takeover. I announced weeks before takeover and NOT 1 person objected.
Wrong. Remember you said this? Is it worth it? You decide. If the community cannot agree to this, then I will leave it. I need the blessing of the community or I cant touch this.
Who will still trust you if you fail to keep your words? And you just mentioned you would like to takeover at the end of last December. But after you published all the details, XDE community had then disapproved your proposal. This is a public forum. You can't lie about it. You can stay with XDE or choose XDE2 for as long as you want...... We CAN co-exist, even if we dont agree. I LOVE Xde, and always have. Lets respect each other, even if we dont agree.
You must use name other than XDE if you continue, otherwise it will confuse the exchanges where we are currently listing or voting on. Don't do it if you really love XDE. Do you like someone else release FLY2 to dilute 99% of your current FLY shares? Think about it before you continue to proceed.
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As it is a self-moderated topic, Vegas has deleted my Post. So I will post it here.
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Added to poll. I want to let everyone know, that if you approach me in a non aggressive manner, I can be easily influenced. You CAN shape XDE2 , just the way you want it. You simply need to speak up.
Ill look at any ideas and strongly consider. I want the community to feel good about the agreement.
What else needs to be changed? I do listen , and do make changes.
Thanks
Hi, .... I KNOW your Team wants more. That is easy to see/read in this thread...and the holders of XDE want more too. YOU MUST COMPROMISE for this to be another great investment...brought to you Team 'Vegas'...Baby! 'nuff Said, CapnBDL I didn't say only 1% . I said "5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team/GOLD Wallets for each team member AND one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned.!!
So you have much more staking rewards! And will have a BIG DEV FUND for all Kind of DEV Stuff.
Short Math:
If each team member gets 25 XDE2 = 125 XDE2 and we assume that 50 % XDE (52.5 XDE) will be swapped to XDE2 (x 7)= 367.5 XDE2 + 125 XDE2 for Team Members >> 492.5 XDE2 Starting amount of coins and 507.5 will be burned. In that case Dev Team will hold about 25% of the float/ moneysupply!!!
Tell me how much the Dev Team gets in Percent from the total Float (after the swap will be finished)! I will be ok with 1.5 - 2% each Team Member and Gold Wallets for each team Member 7.5 - 10% PREMINE is not normal!!! In that Case I will be ok with it.
-Alt
Poll XDE2 Takeover/ Results: Votes on the XDE II poll stopped immediately!: Vegasguy: > Original plans as stated on OP < Nothing changed at all! Not a good move! -Alt No Answer. No Compromise. No Agreement. Such Ignorance! Instead this: Original plans as stated on op We are going to move forward as planned.
5 Platinum wallets for each team member 53 coins for each team member ...
Thats it.
Vegas
You Guys make history as the Greedy ones with one the biggest Premine in CRYPTO and who will accept no compromises from the Old XDE Community. Vegas Eye: I post it here and in XDE thread. I don't like my posts getting deleted XDE II (Double Eagle coin). Takeover from GREEDY Vegasguy & TEAM FLY. **SUPERBLOCKS ** Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1310435.0Original XDE ANN: [ANN][XDE] [100 ~Rare!] ~XDECOIN~ MANDATORY SWAP TO WALLET v6 April 15th @ C-CEX https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841830.0
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Added to poll. I want to let everyone know, that if you approach me in a non aggressive manner, I can be easily influenced. You CAN shape XDE2 , just the way you want it. You simply need to speak up.
Ill look at any ideas and strongly consider. I want the community to feel good about the agreement.
What else needs to be changed? I do listen , and do make changes.
Thanks
Hi, .... I KNOW your Team wants more. That is easy to see/read in this thread...and the holders of XDE want more too. YOU MUST COMPROMISE for this to be another great investment...brought to you Team 'Vegas'...Baby! 'nuff Said, CapnBDL I didn't say only 1% . I said "5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team/GOLD Wallets for each team member AND one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned.!!
So you have much more staking rewards! And will have a BIG DEV FUND for all Kind of DEV Stuff.
Short Math:
If each team member gets 25 XDE2 = 125 XDE2 and we assume that 50 % XDE (52.5 XDE) will be swapped to XDE2 (x 7)= 367.5 XDE2 + 125 XDE2 for Team Members >> 492.5 XDE2 Starting amount of coins and 507.5 will be burned. In that case Dev Team will hold about 25% of the float/ moneysupply!!!
Tell me how much the Dev Team gets in Percent from the total Float (after the swap will be finished)! I will be ok with 1.5 - 2% each Team Member and Gold Wallets for each team Member 7.5 - 10% PREMINE is not normal!!! In that Case I will be ok with it.
-Alt
Poll XDE2 Takeover/ Results: Votes on the XDE II poll stopped immediately!: Vegasguy: > Original plans as stated on OP < Nothing changed at all! Not a good move! -Alt No Answer. No Compromise. No Agreement. Such Ignorance! Instead this: Original plans as stated on op We are going to move forward as planned.
5 Platinum wallets for each team member 53 coins for each team member ...
Thats it.
Vegas
You Guys make history as the Greedy ones with one the biggest Premine in CRYPTO and who will accept no compromises from the Old XDE Community. Vegas Eye: I post it here and in XDE2 Thread. I don't like my posts getting deleted
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Hi You forgot
"XDE2 should move forward with 10 premined coins for team member and a gold wallet each." please it add to the Poll! I vote for that and think it is fair for everyone! Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund!)
Edit: I think 10 premined XDE II would be ok for the Team efforts. (I mixed up XDE and XDE2)
-Alt
Added to poll. I want to let everyone know, that if you approach me in a non aggressive manner, I can be easily influenced. You CAN shape XDE2 , just the way you want it. You simply need to speak up. I think I fully agree to this proposal. 1% premined XDE2 and GOLD Wallets for each team member / 1% premined XDE2 and one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned. Go ahead! And don't Feed the Haters! Edit: Addition: All the 5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team should not be sold within a period of time (assured by multisig and transparent addresses) -Alt Its ugly. Plain and simple. Most old xde owners are just complaining. Thats it. They are not making suggestions. Thats why nothing is getting done.
Give ME a proposal guys, not 1% for the next 2-3 years of work. Make it reasonable. Lets meet in a middle ground. I will make this brialliant. But not for 1%. ($200-$300) for 3 years work!!?!?!?
I didn't say only 1% . I said "5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team/GOLD Wallets for each team member AND one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned.!! So you have much more staking rewards! And will have a BIG DEV FUND for all Kind of DEV Stuff. Short Math: If each team member gets 25 XDE2 = 125 XDE2 and we assume that 50 % XDE (52.5 XDE) will be swapped to XDE2 (x 7)= 367.5 XDE2 + 125 XDE2 for Team Members >> 492.5 XDE2 Starting amount of coins and 507.5 will be burned. In that case Dev Team will hold about 25% of the float/ moneysupply!!! Tell me how much the Dev Team gets in Percent from the total Float (after the swap will be finished)! I will be ok with 1.5 - 2% each Team Member and Gold Wallets for each team Member 7.5 - 10% PREMINE is not normal!!! In that Case I will be ok with it. -Alt
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53 coins for each team member Platinum wallets for each team member Coins not claimed will be burned.
Thats it. Ive spent enough time on this. Its final.
since the swap starts tomorrow and vegasguy just stated that the specifications are now final I would recommend once more to everyone to stay away from the swap. why I post here and not the other thread? I don't like my posts getting deleted ^^ Poll XDE2 Takeover/ Results: Votes on the XDE II poll stopped immediately!: Vegasguy: > Original plans as stated on OP < Nothing changed at all! Not a good move! -Alt
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Hi You forgot
"XDE2 should move forward with 10 premined coins for team member and a gold wallet each." please it add to the Poll! I vote for that and think it is fair for everyone! Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund!)
Edit: I think 10 premined XDE II would be ok for the Team efforts. (I mixed up XDE and XDE2)
-Alt
Added to poll. I want to let everyone know, that if you approach me in a non aggressive manner, I can be easily influenced. You CAN shape XDE2 , just the way you want it. You simply need to speak up. I think I fully agree to this proposal. 1% premined XDE2 and GOLD Wallets for each team member / 1% premined XDE2 and one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned. Go ahead! And don't Feed the Haters! Edit: Addition: All the 5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team should not be sold within a period of time (assured by multisig and transparent addresses) -Alt
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Hi You forgot
"XDE2 should move forward with 10 premined coins for team member and a gold wallet each." please it add to the Poll! I vote for that and think it is fair for everyone! Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund!)
-Alt
Added to poll. I want to let everyone know, that if you approach me in a non aggressive manner, I can be easily influenced. You CAN shape XDE2 , just the way you want it. You simply need to speak up. Thank you Sir
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Steps Shares on Cloud Stake Pool Round 2
The Steps community and investors now have the opportunity to buy shares in Steps Cloud Stake Pool.
Everyone who wants to join can buy shares in the pool, each share cost 1025 Steps.
25 Steps is for the administration fee and 1000 Steps is for your share on the pool, this share is refundable after round 2 and will be refunded with your staked coins.
All the generated coins from pos will be divided amongst the shareholders.
Round 2 will be from 10th January to 9th February(30 days).
Shares purchase available until 10th January.
https://altcoinsteps.com/cloudStake Hi AltcoinSteps!! Nice Development!! I really like your Steps Stay Safe Cloud Wallet for Steps and other Altcoins. Are you planning to provide a Altcoin Cloud Stake Pool for available Wallets? -Alt
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Hi You forgot
"XDE2 should move forward with _0_ 10 premined coins for team member and a gold wallet each." please it add to the Poll! I vote for that and think it is fair for everyone! Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund!)
Edit: I think 10 premined XDE II would be ok for the Team efforts. (I mixed up XDE and XDE2)
-Alt
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Crypto PumpGroup @CryptocoinPump https://twitter.com/CryptocoinPump$VEG #bitvegan @bitveganbtc BTC #YobitExchange PUMP VEG to 0.00000050 BTC RETWEET #altcoins @YobitExchange BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC All our promises are fulfilled We have pumped VEG to the Moon (over 0.00000050 BTC !!!) Our next pump Coin will be announced soon! Be prepared!! nice VEG pump pump X2coin
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Our automated service allows you, to create your own Scrypt altcoin. We offer the following features. * Name and abbreviation of your choice * Unique Merkle hash and Genesis block * Change Address Letter * Change logo and images and icons. * You get Windows & Linux QT Wallets * You also get the Linux Daemon & Source * Change coin parameters to your likings. * Node hosting for one month FREE * Premine Website: https://www.walletbuilders.comTwitter: @walletbuilders This topic is for all support and sales questions.please add POS coins to walletbuilders
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Keep it up! And never give up. You Will Win in the End.
I see one specific problem (throughout the whole Cryptocoin Community) Many people are just hoarding their Coins and are spending nothing to improve or contribute and just waiting for the Devs or "knights" to do the work. How can we improve that?
Maybe some time later we need to implement a system in the Cryptocoin Space that encourages people to contribute ideas and their fair share (maybe though higher X% PoS Rewards.....
I know here are a lot of people just hoarding (and staking) a LOT amount of coins and do nothing to improve "their" Coin.
... Another idea from the Th82's message - higher stake percent for contributors (maybe unlocked by coupon-like codes entered into the wallet GUI), seems to be more interesting. Interesting idea! I like it to reward those who contribute most through a higher stake percent. Also I vote for reducing the Block reward from currently 5000 CV2 to 2500 CV2 per block. CV2 Contributors should be rewarded higher - we should implement such a System and bounty programs. Some time ago, we had Improvement / Marketing and Development Teams on Colossuscoin.org - We could reActivate the Teams Interesting ideas! The next steps could be: - add new DNS seeds to the colossuscoin/talk.org domains to improve syncing - The block reward could be permanently reduced from 5000 coins per block to 2500 coins per block and we could add fixed Superblocks (Superblocks send directly to the CV2 Dev Fund Adress used for the Rewards Program and BOINC Community Mining Teams) - The proof of stake rate of interest will remain unchanged about 6.5% per year (~3.25% POS staking rewards and 3.25% for the Superblocks rewards). - Rewards Program: Community support and Contribution is vital to the growth and adoption of Colossuscoin2. Wondering if you are going to get paid for your contribution? Of course! We will reopen the Colossuscoin2 Improvement Team and the Colossuscoin2 Marketing Team. These teams will qualify to get CV2 rewards. Each month, you can redeem rewards. - BOINC Community Mining Teams: CV2 will be distributed through BOINC community-based open-source project (World Community Grid). You donate your device’s spare computing power to help scientists solve the world’s biggest problems in health and sustainability and GET PAID in ColossusCoin2.0! Stay Tuned and Happy Staking! Best wishes Sudo23 Get active! Join the Colossuscoin2 community by visiting http://www.Colossuscointalk.org and sharing. The Colossuscoin2 project is open to contributions from active and talented developers. The source code is available at GitHub: https://github.com/Crestington/ColossusCoin2I agree and I'm voting for it. These changes must also be implemented technically.
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vegas wants that option in the wallet so people will be able to sell the profits of the coins that they stake but the general funds they hold they arent able to sell without paying fees. so people can still make profit from the coin but it doesnt result in a lot of dumping.
its currently in the wallet already
POS % targeted at 50% annually - that seems to me too much POS % annualy for the System if the TOP Holders (Top 1-25: 163226 FLY) sell the POS profits of the coins that they stake What is the yearly targeted FLY POS interest for the Top 1-25 Holders ? 81613 FLY? >Alt
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Yobit were told to delist and they wont. The wallet will not function there, so those that have FLY are dumping it as they cannot withdraw there, not now, and not in the future.
The true price of FLY is on our one and only exchange Crytopia. We are $1.88 with 173,106 coins.
True market cap: $325,439 .
Thanks
Hi vegasguy ok thanks. $325,439 sounds much better. So maybe you might want to delist Yobit Exchange from Coinmarketcap and update the Explorer link - just ask Gliss https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61526
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