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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 09:33:49 PM
I hope this whole thing implodes and everybody gets fucked by MaidSafe.

I'm surprised you're so sour at Maidsafe when that error seemed to be the genius that was templar77. His thoughts don't suggest anything about Maidsafe as a project.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 09:13:37 PM
Although I don't know what the heck this thread is about, I found it via the 1Drt3... address I personally linked to Mt Gox while tracking the missing coins. Just about nailed it I believe. Too bad I can't figure out how InstaWallet washed my 1,132 BTC though.

Damn, looks like I've done this before:

Mark Karpeles has been skimming Mt Gox for a while now, putting BTC into 1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew: https://blockchain.info/address/1BSbX5aH6Kfur5eaHgjvjwG4Voww4FBmT6

If Mark is still in Japan, is there anyway to get his passport revoked so that he can't leave the country?

So, perhaps you've seen the post above by user:maidsafe
...
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM, <dan.mat...@gmail.com> wrote:
As people are now posting on reddit and bitcointalk this appears to be Bitstamp's wallet.

--This Confusion Happened Before
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yxxgf/the_posted_address_with_a_transfers_totaling/
...

Obviously, there is a difference between those claims and perhaps there is more evidence as background to these that might help resolve this?..


You live in a fantasy world.

No, I just don't jump to conclusions.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 06:54:25 PM
Can someone please just tell me how I am supposed to view my maidsafe now. Idgak about the noob bs, it wasn't clear to me and if that makes me a noob so be it.

You can see the number of coins allocated in the spreadsheet for BTC payments and the transaction id's noted there are progressing as they work on those. I guess when just depends then how far down the list you are.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r4fv57JDNkW55P5dnwPmHF3rOhdt1Jn5I2DZFuZfmfU/htmlview?pli=1
If you made payment with MSC then lookup is https://masterchest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=ADDRESSGOESHERE
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
So the early bird crowd dumped bags of money on a controversial IPO for a 'SAFE' network which may never release.

Isn't this a bigger version of Mastercoin (I meant in stagnation)?  How do you persaude subsequent  investors to come in at such a huge capitalization?  If SAFE comes out what stops the farmers from dumping or to set up server pools to farm & dump?

You have it back to front. This isn't the usual pump and dump scam copy coin that needs people to persuade anyone. Do a bit of research and don't be lazy expecting other people to compensate your ignorance. Do a bit of reading and wonder why people are looking to support this - it's not dumping money in a hole; it's an opportunity to move the area forward. http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=maidsafe&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
@RawDog - Be nice to noobs. Rage at the trolls, if you want.
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 06:36:34 PM
So do I use my wallets "receiving" address to check on masterches.info?

You need to know which public address you sent from. If you can find the transaction id from the history of transactions, perhaps searching that on http://blockchain.info/ will show more clearly which address you sent from. SPT will be credited to the same address by return. If it's not clear the address can be a reference address for BTC; MSC; XCP; and now MaidSafeCoin SPT.. and that's still the BTC blockchain, though others like DVC use the same addresses on a different ledger==blockchain.

To make any action with SPT in future, you will need to know your private key relating to the address.. the private key is everything. If you didn't send from one address that you control the private key for then you can usually export those, though some shared web wallets don't allow that, software like bitcoin-qt perhaps will but you might need commandline for that.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 06:24:28 PM
I used Hive to send from and now realizing I can not export my private key - not sure but I think I am screwed on getting my SafeCoin because of that.

You will need to know the private key of the BTC|MSC address you sent from.
Perhaps email info@maidsafe.net - address from bottom of http://www.safecoin.io/
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
where is the proof that it isn't?

That's not how reality works! You can't expect other people to do the hard work for you. Also, proving the negative is never possible. Prove that it is the case, don't expect others to prove that it isn't.



Along the present, more practical lines, when are my Safecoins going to show up in my Masterchest wallet?

If that's not how it works, how do I access my Safecoins?

Smiley

You can see the number of coins allocated in the spreadsheet for BTC payments and the transaction id's noted there are progressing as they work on those. I guess when just depends then how far down the list you are.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r4fv57JDNkW55P5dnwPmHF3rOhdt1Jn5I2DZFuZfmfU/htmlview?pli=1
If you made payment with MSC then lookup is https://masterchest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=ADDRESSGOESHERE
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 02:34:02 PM
I didnt see this forbes article. Now Im very confused. Would these guys really show their faces for this super scam?

ITT and every other one it seems, there are noobs calling scam at every turn. "Done no research but got an opinion, derp."

There's no evidence that Maidsafe project is a scam. There are always third parties looking to take advantage and always sore losers grumbling on the sidelines.

 Roll Eyes
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 02:28:34 PM

So templar is a self proclaimed 'genius' and now famous but again where is the evidence that the address is necessarily MtGox? If MaidSafe and others are to act, they need to know the basis for that. Repeating speculation, isn't going to help here. Obviously, it's possible templar is correct but it's also too common for people to jump to conclusions.
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 02:19:10 PM
This thread could be used as evidence to prove Mark Karpeles or his subordinates still have access to all those BTC and that Maidsafe could be indicted along with them.

If you're to make a case, you need to provide all the steps to proving the point; I can't see the source, proving that address is MtGox. As noted above, anyone can tag Blockchain address wrongly.
yes,isnt?

The challenge is suggesting this address is MtGox : https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew
I'm not trying to prove that it isn't. The challenger must provide their evidence, it's not for others to prove the negative.
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 02:08:54 PM
This thread could be used as evidence to prove Mark Karpeles or his subordinates still have access to all those BTC and that Maidsafe could be indicted along with them.

If you're to make a case, you need to provide all the steps to proving the point; I can't see the source, proving that address is MtGox. As noted above, anyone can tag Blockchain address wrongly.
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
Why is it easier through blockchain? If I have a qt wallet, sent all my BTCs from the wallet to its main (and only visible) address, would that be a problem?

Blockchain is just foolproof; it's trivial to export the private key to a single address that you choose to send from. QT perhaps chooses whichever address has sufficient funds; so, I don't feel in control of QT and consider it is a mix of multiple addresses. If you're confident you are sending from the address in qt or the daemon and you know the private key to that address, then go ahead. When you look to move SPT later you'll need to know the private key, that's all.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 24, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
Some tard tagged that address wrong... nothing else....

it's a bitstamp address but whatever

I'd like to see the source proving it as MtGox too..
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 01:46:56 PM

I think, leave it to the pros .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582731.msg6372180#msg6372180
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
So if I sent from my blockchain.info wallet, I would search for my public address associated with that wallet?

Yes, the transaction is on the Bitcoin BTC blockchain and the address then holding BTC can also hold other coins like Mastercoin MSC; Counterparty XCP; and now Maidsafecoin SPT. To send those maidsafecoins once you receive then, you need to use a wallet that can work with those, which I expect for now will be the mastercoin wallets.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
in order to verify receipt of maidsafecoins which address do we search for in https://masterchest.info

Is it the one listed when we go to import/export>paper wallet?

You need to know which address you send from.

You can check the madesafecoin balance currently allocated to your address at https://masterchest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=ADDRESSGOESHERE
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
I can send BTC from bitcoin-qt right? Or just blockchain.info wallet?

The SPT will be sent to the address you send them BTC from; so, easier to do this from blockchain and control which address is used. Obviously, to send SPT later on you'll need to use a Masterchain like wallet that can work with that, rather than just the BTC in that address.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 24, 2014, 09:21:02 AM
Just curious, is this the reason for creating many 0.05 BTC outputs? https://blockchain.info/address/1NpScs5QhqmSeV6FZUdGUFvVVfQGbuBV3Y

Not sure where you got that address.. the MSC collection address was https://blockchain.info/address/1ARjWDkZ7kT9fwjPrjcQyvbXDkEySzKHwu
 but obviously don't use this address now..

0.05555 mBTC received there relate to the MSC transfers.


@superresistent try looking at academic works and patents rather than github! http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=maidsafe&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: April 23, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
You can still buy safecoins by sending BTC to the BTC address. http://www.safecoin.io/ suggests it's open until they've received 7341BTC.. see current total at https://blockchain.info/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E
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