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@BADecker come back when you have some evidence that can be debunked, otherwise you're just spewing nonsense and confusion.
Observations from mountain tops support a flat and motionless earth including transits of celestial objects. You can see so far up there for one because it's flat, and secondly because the observer's viewing angle is so large.
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^^^ Weather permitting i.e. a cool, clear, dry day with little to no atmospheric refraction, the minimum distance to the horizon can be measured and documented accurately with a large margin of error using a landmark of known distance, all with a consumer grade super-zoom camera.
All sorts of measurements can be made, such blatant gate-keeping on your part.
It looks to me like the miniaturization of optical sensors and the mass production of high quality lenses is having as much, or more of a revolutionary effect as the miniaturization of computers.
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^^^ You'd likely be calculating barrel distortion, refraction causes atmospheric lensing to occur as some atmospheric layers have a high index of refraction even at greater altitudes.
I mean seriously dude, you want to claim that the flat earth curves beyond the limits of the human eye but, then you reject footage of the flat earth from super-zoom cameras that can see far beyond the limits of the human eye. You reject something anybody can confirm with modern technology for untrustworthy and biased 3rd party evidence, evidence that uses proprietary optics to look at objects in the sky that, they claim are trillions of miles away through a fluid atmosphere.
I'm calling you out on your bullshit, the earth is flat and pointing up at the sky is a distraction tactic.
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^^^ Did you know that snake oil aka omega-3 fatty acid is a $25 billion dollar a year business? Source: forbes.com |
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^^^ Centrifugal force is fictitious, centripetal force is the real force.
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^^^ The atmosphere is in layers, this is apparent looking at the bottoms of clouds. I described the process of separation of material into different density layers according to Coulomb's Law. You can't say that has no effect on pressure because density is directly proportional to pressure and indirectly proportional to temperature as per Gas Law.
Flat Earth is the default, the theory is that the surface of the flat Earth curves into a globe just beyond the limits of human vision. This claim that surface of the flat Earth curves is absolutely and completely debunked with modern optics like the Nikon P900.
Relativistic gravity was falsified in 1939, you've got absolutely nothing.
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^^^ Relativistic gravity died in 1939 at the University of Paris. The chain of events set in motion by the 1887 M&M experiment ended in 1939 when Dufour and Prunier falsified Einstein's 1905 relativistic theory.
You've got no argument, you can't provide scientific proof for the existence of "outer space" and gravity has been debunked via experiment. A pressure gradient is not possible in a vacuum without a container!
Your argument is moot.
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@CryptotouristQ: Can a pressure gradient exist next to a vacuum without a container? (((A))):"While gravity is most certainly a real thing, the answer to this question is not “because gravity is stronger”.
Vacuums never “suck” air. What they do is present an empty space and then air pressure forces the air into the vacuum." If by gravity "they" mean Einstein's Relativity then I would say that it [relativistic gravity] has been falsified at the University of Paris in 1939 by Dufour and Prunier when they replicated Sagnac's experiment while taking into consideration a rotating frame of reference. If "they" mean Newtonian gravity then they're just shit out of luck. When a theory is falsified by experiment then it's not real! "The actual answer is that the vacuum of space does not exert any force on the atmosphere at all. It does not “suck” the air. We associate the word “suck” with “vacuums” but it’s a misnomer. That’s not what vacuums do." Can "they" provide scientific proof "outer space" is real? I definitely agree that a vacuum is not "pulling" on air, as higher pressure expands into an area of lower pressure; path of least resistance. "Air pressure is not uniform throughout the atmosphere. The lower the altitude, the higher the air pressure; thus, as you move higher, the air pressure decreases. In fact, at the upper limits of the atmosphere, the air pressure reduces to basically nil.
And since there’s no real air pressure to speak of up there, then there is no force pushing the air into the empty space.' How does the wind work? Nobody is arguing that the atmosphere is uniform, this is a dodgeball strawman attack. Where is the experiment that demonstrates an air pressure gradient in a hard vacuum without a container? "Now, this doesn’t mean gravity isn’t at work here. In fact, gravity is the reason we have air pressure in the first place. Gravity pulls on the atmosphere, compressing it, and creating pressure.
If we could magically turn off gravity then the atmosphere would be released from that compression and spring away from the Earth.
So, at the root of it, gravity is the thing that keeps the atmosphere near the surface. It just isn’t fighting the vacuum of space to do it." I just turned it [gravity] off with an experiment from 1939. There's a container that holds the atmosphere and it's called the firmament (an electrified, gold coloured, oxide layer mirrored, nickel-iron long-grain composite steel dome). The atmosphere is a fluid medium and there's a coulomb force that acts between the ground (-) and the firmament (+). The least dense material i.e. electrons (-) flow to the anode (+) and they push on the air (+), they push it down to the cathode (-). This process acting on all materials leads to a separation into a density gradient with the most dense matter pushed to the bottom. In macroscopic terms this is also known as density and buoyancy, however the mechanism falsely attributed to gravity is in fact Coulomb's Law. ...
The perception of reality, is stronger than reality itself.
You seem to be quite a clinical case Batty, but I still believe that you're just trolling us to infinity. [REDACTED]
Don't believe anything, belief is the enemy of knowing.  Snakes on Mars!
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notbatman,
At what point in your life did you conclude that the Earth was flat?
Did you ever believe otherwise?
I got close to figuring it out when I was ~10 years, I had serious issues with the cross-hairs in the Moon landing images and, my teachers could never explain how the vacuum of space could exist next to a pressurized atmosphere. I remember multiple sit-down sessions with extremely frustrated teachers, it's not my fault they couldn't explain it. Then there was this episode during a field trip on a ferry boat and the class got to see the bridge, I commented about the earth looking flat on the captain's AE map and the teacher snapped. Unfortunately my teachers were literally part of (rejected candidates) the NASA challenger program, that combined with TV and movies, had me headed into a complete fantasy world. Eventually I completely succumbed to the globe propaganda, I think it was sci-fi that did the most damage. Then it happened, first it was fraud (2013) from a company named after a UK rocket program and 2TH/s bitcoin miner named after a satellite that it launched into space. "why was this fraudulent company named after a space program?" I asked myself. Then I thought about the Mars rover, the head guy NASA had on TV was a joke. I could tell the images shown were procedurally generated CGI, they accidentally used a texture with a lemming in it and the AI rendered a scene with one in it. Then I reviewed the Moon landing hoax conspiracy, I watched videos like a funny thing happened on the way to the moon and Moonraker. Then I ask myself "If they're faking Mars and they're faking the Moon then they must be faking the Earth, but how? I'm standing here, how can it be fake?". BOOM! The Earth is probably flat. I make the OP and it's not long before I know the Earth is flat as a pancake. Of course there are many other factors involved but those are a few major ones.  Devon Island Lemming I Choose You! |
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From FLAT EARTH to PLASMA MOON -- https://youtu.be/Glnw6oCNV2s (1:05:34) "One hour video - documentary with many small music videos that explain the subjects:
a) No curvature, proofs from Greece with all the data. (00:00 - 13:16)
b) Sun, sun's motion, perspective. (13:17 - 16:25)
c) Daylight and night, sun's pilot plasma field. (16:26 - 32:00)
d) Moon, moons motion, always the same face and what a coinsidence. (32:01 - 41:39)
e) Plasma moon theory, Urbano Monte old map, no Antartica but hidden continents, map of flat earth from plasma moon includes hidden continents. (41:40 - 1:05:30)"edit:This video has an interesting theory on how the Moon's image is produced, it shows a hidden continent between South America and Australia:  If there's any credibility to this theory, then there's probably two, maybe three more suns (solar systems?) and a lot more land. The magnetic north pole could possibly be doing a loop in a very long cycle (with or without more suns). This would result in simultaneous ice ages and warming in a continuous cycle. ... edit2: If the mass in the lower middle is actually South America then the left one could be a hidden continent, right at ten (24h) o'clock, the 4th corner. Yes, it works, this guys Moon theory is crazy, but, uh... wow. This guys filters have severely distorted the image, he's forced it to make the wrong part look like North & South America. Here's an image from, uh.. NASA, just ignore the stealth aircraft towing the tie-fighter banner. [i mg]https://i.imgur.com/[REDACTED].jpg[/i mg] Tab missing, google image search result missing... It just vanished... That's some kind of good parlour tricks, the image had some serious depth. edit3:This is not necessarily an endorsement but, here's my take on this X-ray Earth Moon theory: 
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There's dumping toxic crap that chokes plants and animals to death and makes people sick, you know like roundup and chemtrail aerosols, then there's this substance plants breathe called carbon dioxide.
According to Greta (her handlers were just exposed by some social media platform bug) every breath you exhale is killing the planet and only carbon credits can save us all from certain economic doom, the financial cost of gassing you bastards to death geoengineering the climate is overwhelming and needs to be offset.
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First it was rabbits, then it was hallucinogenic toads, now it's camels. Woe to the native population of bats, snakes and spiders.
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Have you never watched Clash of the Titans (1981)?  They're all fictional stories, especially the ones told by academia. What if I told that not only does Australia have camels, but Australia has the worlds largest population of camels? |
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 So you're telling me it's just (((coincidence))) that Atlantis sank after losing a battle with Athens? You're over-reacting to my interpretation of Plato's bat-cave bullshit. Who really knows what kind of advanced weapons Greece had in the classical period? Everything I'm being told about history is a farce of fictional characters, dates, places and events as far as I'm concerned. My only interest in their lies is what they might be trying to cover up, "what are they trying to divert attention from?" I ask myself. The earth is flat and there could be more land. |
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Two wolves and lamb deciding on what's for lunch isn't much of a negotiation.  |
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@nutildah, how is the full moon evenly lit if it's a sphere reflecting sunlight? edit:10 Jan 2020, lunar eclipse (source: newsnation.in):  LOL the shadow is coming in from the side. You guys are just a bunch of dicks talking balls! @Cryptotourist, Plato claims Atlantis invaded Greece and they were an adversary unlike no other, but eventually Athens sunk Atlantis and all was good, or so history says.
Wut? You have a unique way of distorting things. I'm twisting nothing, this is official narrative stuff: The Tale
According to the Egyptians, or rather what Plato described Critias reporting what his grandfather was told by Solon who heard it from the Egyptians, once upon a time, there was a mighty power based on an island in the Atlantic Ocean. This empire was called Atlantis, and it ruled over several other islands and parts of the continents of Africa and Europe.
Atlantis was arranged in concentric rings of alternating water and land. The soil was rich, said Critias, the engineers technically accomplished, the architecture extravagant with baths, harbor installations, and barracks. The central plain outside the city had canals and a magnificent irrigation system. Atlantis had kings and a civil administration, as well as an organized military. Their rituals matched Athens for bull-baiting, sacrifice, and prayer.
But then it waged an unprovoked imperialistic war on the remainder of Asia and Europe. When Atlantis attacked, Athens showed its excellence as the leader of the Greeks, the much smaller city-state the only power to stand against Atlantis. Alone, Athens triumphed over the invading Atlantean forces, defeating the enemy, preventing the free from being enslaved, and freeing those who had been enslaved.
After the battle, there were violent earthquakes and floods, and Atlantis sank into the sea, and all the Athenian warriors were swallowed up by the earth.
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You've got to admit, with a hidden continent the UFO phenomenon suddenly makes a whole lot of sense.
Plato claims Atlantis invaded Greece and they were an adversary unlike no other, but eventually Athens sunk Atlantis and all was good, or so history says.
I think it could be a lie [victory], this was the end of the classical period for Greece IMO. I suspect the dates given for all or most historical events are fabricated and the Copernican revolution took place shortly after the fall.
Ancient history they claim is thousand of years old, it might only be hundreds. Some buildings from what is claimed as ancient history are still in use. Look at cities like Chicago and The Bronx, where did all the people go? When Napoleon invaded Moscow, it was empty. What's up with the Victorian age?
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Do you trust 3rd party information i.e. what's available on Google maps? Are you among the faithful, a believer? Is the idea of a hidden continent blasphemy?
Why would Google Earth use an Azimuthal Equidistant map then project that onto a globe? Why isn't the AE map available for browsing?
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