 ] Congrats, you've become your own parody. Lotteries and a failure to understand BTC finance have zero to do with "investing", "success", or in any way "changing the world", no matter how many exclamation marks you throw in there, no matter how many cheesy banner ads you spit up. Bitcoin isn't some alchemical tool for magically transforming catch phrases into reality for the sake of your laziness. |
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Safe to store what your holding there?
No. Searching before making new threads is generally a good idea, btw. |
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- Owned by customer
- CryptoCard for each account
- Open Bookeeping
If you're going to be about being "open", why not start with your own service announcement? See here. |
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Today, I want to discuss about Ripple and bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a digital currency, but do you know about ripple? the most promising digital currency in the future. Ripple is not meant to replace the currency that we use everyday, it is more than that. Ripple is more efficient than Bitcoin, it only takes a few seconds to transfer your Ripple and complete the transaction, before you get bored when you are using Bitcoin. Ripple is more valuable in the future. In the near future Ripple will be the most popular digital currency around the world. it will play an import role in the economic world, since the price of it will be smooth rather than the Bitcoin. so, I prefer ripple more than bitcoin.
Shilling's looking pretty cheap these days. No amount of contentless new posts changes the fact, however: |
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I predict it will peak out at around $15,000 and that all of this will happen between January 2014 and May 2014. Remember this thread to see if I'm right when the time comes and if I am right you can tip me.
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Fair amount of btc being put down on this (since November last) on BitBet. |
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Far as I can see, you're here to scam. The reasons are quite simply: 1. You're nobody, I couldn't tell you from Adam. Tytus, what's that. Wot? The cost to make you, entirely, is about fiddy cent. (Sure, you may or may not be related to Leszek Rychlewski, who'd be a moderately cited biology researcher. On the strength of your presentation that connection is not worth investigating.) 2. You came up with what you call an exchange, for no apparent reason. It doesn't exchange anything. The worthless assurances of some Marshall Islands shell "repaying" anyone for anything are of no value and no interest. 3. You came up with a scam for that exchange, specifically, an imaginary set of 1000 boards that Tom was selling you (in spite of bASIC not making that many boards to begin with and you not being anywhere on the lists of people that ordered). I did point out to you then you're lying through your teeth, and your response was that *I* should check up on your claims. No receipts, no proof of anything. You could be Inaba if we didn't already have an idiot by that name around. Conveniently enough for you Tom blew up, and so you're roughly in the situation of the various scammers operating out of GLBSE: they get to pretend like it was all Nefario's fault. Oh, yes, I forgot, you lost a million dollars with the bASIC blow-up, how fortunate for us that you're so cavalier about that disaster, picked yourself up and are back for more. Innit easy to get through due diligence for imaginary fortunes and imaginary investments? How strange that Tom never had half that much money to refund in the first place. 4. You came up with a slightly larger piece of bs. Who is bitfury? Oh, wait, nevermind, "BitFury Group facilitating development of BitCoin-related software, hardware and services". Great. They made a splash last summer with their insane "licensing" deal. Meanwhile they draw 7MW per Gh or something like that, and nobody (including the manufacturer) even knows what the units cost. Let alone that there were a grand total of two units built overall, during the entire 10 month lifetime of the project. As a bonus, MegaBigPower.com is some bs site registered two weeks ago, in no position to "operate" anything whatsoever. To make it perfectly clear: 100 TH made out of bitfuries is much like an aircraft carrier made out of old refurbished Ford Model Ts: not seaworthy. 5. If you think that is a business plan you have absolutely never either seen one or done business. I get that you think Bitcoiners are idiots, and most are. The important point is that those who are have no BTC, and those who still have BTC aren't idiots. Your deluded notions that anyone will actually put as much as fifty dollars into this patent nonsense is about as amusing as the idiocy coming from the bitfinex corner. I get that you think you can buddy-buddy and "act professional" and it'll wash like it has in the past. You're wrong. It won't. To quote my ever-watchful boss, Pack it and move. This is your only warning, and quite frankly I have no ideea why warnings are even necessary. Bitcoin is not for idiots. That means you. |
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Cryptoworld ( http://cryptowrld.com/) is the new upcoming exchange.Currently we are a group of people who engage in different activities related to cryptocurrencies to make profit, we are increasing the size of our operation.Our upcoming exchange will provide the best trading platform with high end security. Services will include offline backup of currencies and trading platform with very fast speed. New features will also be added in future. Our aim is to become leading service provider in the market.We are also working on couple of other projects. Launch date is not confirmed yet but it will be around end of next month. The date will be announced once setup is complete and testing is done. Until then dividends will be funded by other activities. Shareholders will receive dividends from profit on all activities. We are also working on a service where properties can be bought and sold using cryptocurrencies, for that we are convincing sellers to accept payment in cryptocurrencies. Starting with exchange we want to integrate a lot of real life activities in our company. You're doing it wrong. See here. |
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There's already a standard for establishing trust: the WoT. Yet another review site does not in fact "help" anyone beyond serving as an emotional airing ground for people riled up about someone or other. Scams aren't scams on the basis of having some anonymous agents raging on a review site. It would also serve as a platform for users to bring their current situation into public to expedite their support request.
Selective service based on who's yelling loud enough is a despicable practice and shouldn't be encouraged. |
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Acquiring a basic level of competence before coming to this thread to pollute it would have helped you to understand that an initial value of 0.1 BTC and a final return of capital of 0.08838512 BTC represents a decrease of approximately 11.6%.
So how much was your fee, to compensate you for having lost 11.6% of your fools' BTC over seven weeks? |
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Sigh.  The reality here is all a matter of public record for anybody who bothers to read, but by the looks of this drivel it appears that Mircea Popescu either can't be bothered to read or has so convinced himself of his own godliness that he thinks he can just make stuff up and the band of sycophantic pseudonyms will eat it up with stars in their eyes. If you had bothered to read the original post in this thread, there's a nice summary there. The original BTC Growth fund raised 2000 BTC in around 30 hours when it launched on BTC-TC. You and MP make complete fools of yourselves by claiming otherwise. And as for the subsequent performance of that fund, if you had bothered to check, you would have found that in fact, it dropped by a total of 11.6% from inception to final return of capital -- thereby outperforming every other comparable fund available, while the broader market tanked. Not only did it outperform all other comparable funds available at the time, but over the same period it also outperformed nearly all individual Bitcoin-denominated equities, and it outperformed them by a wide margin. (In case you hand't noticed, the forex fund, which this thread is about -- you know, the actual fund which is supposed to be the topic of conversation for this thread, rather than the thread being merely a destination for empty-headed trolls to make themselves look silly -- is a completely different fund.) You can add this to the previously mentioned list of occasions on which you have insisted on making a spectacle of yourself by starting an argument with me without even attempting to prepare yourself with an adequate grasp of the facts, and I therefore have wasted my time handing you your a** on a platter. You and the other misguided troll have wasted quite enough of my time during the last 24 hours, so I'm sure you'll understand that I have no interest in wasting any more guiding you in the direction of material you could easily have found for yourself with just a click or two. So why is the bot that streamed quotes all through the interval not agreeing with your retelling? And please stop sounding like usagi. PS. S.MPOE was trading low 80s in November and is trading high 80s now, that's be about as much as you lost, except it gained it rather than losing it (and this, not counting the dividends). So...you did better than most of the scams out there, perhaps. While it's understandable why you'd be keeping your eyes on your own kin, it'd also be understandable if you stopped talking of Bitcoin finance. You have no relation to it. |
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please tell us
You've got two options, basically. You can either think about how this "game" is devised and the position it puts a "player" in, cross-referencing this with your knowledge of various scamming schemes (because you do know what these schemes are and how they work, both in theory and in historic execution, so that you can be an informed market participant, right?) and coming to the only available conclusion, which is that the "player"'s role here is to transform himself into a marketing chimp for the operator at said chimp's own risk. Or, if thinking and studying aren't your sorts of things, your cues from people who do actually enjoy these activities were here, here, here, and here, as a very cursory for instance. That several other idiotic "bitcoin gem" games have cropped up over the years isn't a selling point ("It's like hot potato!!1" isn't a hint that the thing's credible, it's a hint that it's stupid). That the sensible posts in this thread were practically drowned in low post count shills and a few idiocy addicts isn't a selling point. And no, it's not the case that you might as well say "what the hell" and "try it"; there's a serious downside here. Stop giving money to scammers. |
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I would make a bet using bitbet if they were any less of a scummy company. I love the site/ui/functionality but not a fan of the fine print bullshit like if you bet after a deadline the money is considered a donation. This is no way to run a business especially when you are using a currency that takes a long ass time to confirm sometimes.
I would bet 0.1btc asicminer pays more in divs the following year.
Not going to bet it collapses because I actually changed my mind on that statement. It may not collapse within that time frame but it will surely pay out embarrassingly small divs while nobody uses the useless service.
The only hope of mpex succeeding was with a steady flow of idiots willing to gamble huge sums with options but now that cant even happen.
Save your bitcents, buy yourself a warm meal, or a pair of shoes, or whatever. This discussion is over, random consumer scum do not get to opine on finance. |
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Read the website. If you don't understand something, get in touch directly. If you are not an accredited investor, it won't be worth your time.
Derp. Here's the actual story: 00:51 <mircea_popescu> well, so did anyone actually bother to track this BTC-GROWTH marvel ? 01:33 <mircea_popescu> a actually btct, should be in the logs 02:18 <mircea_popescu> Apr 13 11:00:40 <`MBot> [ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 2 x 0.99999 = 1.999980 BTC ] 02:18 <mircea_popescu> Apr 13 11:01:55 <`MBot> [ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 98 x 1.0 = 98.000000 BTC ] 02:21 <mircea_popescu> dude, old logs! 02:27 <mircea_popescu> (that's apr 13 2012, ftr) 02:28 <peterl> I think it was all privately done, so there is no way to actually track what he says 02:37 <mircea_popescu> peterl he claims he got 2k btc on btct 03:41 <mircea_popescu> so what was the ticker, anyoe know that ? 03:45 <dexX7> http://coinflow.co/chart/BTC-GROWTH03:46 <ozbot> BTC-GROWTH on Coinflow 04:26 <dexX7> i think he indeed sold quite a few shares 04:36 <dexX7> several hundred btc worth 05:40 <mircea_popescu> aha 05:43 <dexX7> ;;calc 1294*0.1 05:44 <gribble> 129.4 05:46 <dexX7> well 05:47 <dexX7> ^ 07:06 <mircea_popescu> http://dpaste.com/1707934/07:09 <mircea_popescu> that's the first hour. 07:39 <mircea_popescu> there's no 2k there, more like 2-300 btc 08:03 <benkay> the rest was privately placed! 08:03 <benkay> gosh. 08:46 <peterl> "privately placed" does that mean "I just made up whatever numbers I want"? 09:17 <benkay> that is an implication 09:19 <Namworld> I'm about 175 BTC in debt and I'm richer than him still. 09:34 <mircea_popescu> the zinger being, of course, "Aug 15 15:49:39 <parseval> This guy is charging 2% of assets annually plus 20% of profits for management fees" 09:39 <mircea_popescu> that's some fund o.O 09:56 <Namworld> Big fees. 11:02 <dexX7> well, such a fee level is at least motivating the issuer to perform well 11:18 <mircea_popescu> lolk 11:53 <mircea_popescu> normally i'd say "i wish to meet that elated 1% of bitcoin financiers which actually make 2% a year", but i think i already have. 13:00 <mircea_popescu> anyway, parity didn't hold up long : Aug 15 18:44:58 <assbot> [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09801 = 0.196 BTC [-] Aug 15 18:44:59 <assbot> [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 96 @ 0.098 = 9.408 BTC [-] Sep 21 01:55:33 <assbot> [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09612 = 0.1922 BTC [-] Sep 21 03:21:59 <assbot> [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 50 @ 0.09594299 = 4.7971 BTC [-] {5} Oct 06 15:25:37 <assbot> [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-] Oct 08 18:07:10 <assbot> [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.083 = 0.581 BTC Oct 08 18:08:11 <assbot> [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 14 @ 0.083 = 1.162 BTC 14:35 <mircea_popescu> and with that the story ends. 14:51 <mircea_popescu> -17% on assets, -22% on fees, half your money back in half a year. 16:08 <dexX7> labcoin was a more exciting way to lose money You're just a scammer, if more pretentious than most. Not the sort that does it deliberately, but the sort that does it through sheer incompetence and metacognitive failure. Still, the net effect on your unfortunate "investors" is just about the same. Back in the day usagi was the main provider of involuntary lols for the general Bitcoin public, and the prevailing view was that "so what if idiots lose a few Bitcoin, someone has to pay for our entertainment". With the entrance of more advanced psychotic cases such as Uppity Tortilla, who generally entertain for free or even pay for the privilege of amusing us, the bar has risen significantly. There's no niche left for you in Bitcoin really, you're neither funny nor rich enough to do anything for us anymore. May I recommend joining some of the alts? For instance I hear wonderful things about Max Keiser's scamcoin, and you two definitely have the same sorts of mental issues so perhaps you could work together in that space. Good luck! |
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Don't bother theymos right now! He's busy trying to figure out if the bounty should be $50K or $100K USD to have somebody create a program to make sure that accounts like this one don't get registered again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=268947BTW, MPOE-PR's my God! Well at least they did move the thread safely out of Bitcoin Discussion, so you know. Doing their part. |
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Well this'd be why S.NSA isn't taking pre-orders for their Cardano. In the real world, companies make their case to banks and investment firms that they function as a company and turn a profit. If they fail they are responsible to them. In the pre order world created here in Bitcoin world, if the company fails they simply tell us to hang in there.
Which is why you wanna be on #bitcoin-assets. |
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What am I butthurt about
Between failing to listen when GLBSE was called out followed by failing to listen when BTCT was called out and sinking under the waves for a year amidst the utter catastrophe of your "asset" and your utter failure to handle your loans like a person with the vaguest inkling of what responsibility means, I'd say you have plenty. The solution is not hiding out and imagining you can come back unblemished later on à la goat. The solution is not imagining that by flailing at me, reality will change. Or imagining that an exchange is a website, or that a website needs CSS sneezed all over it. The solution is to get the picture already and listen when people who are obviously smarter and more skilled than you choose to speak. The longer you put it off like a toddler in a tantrum, the steeper your climb will be. |
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