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I wish they would just release catapult on the main public network
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After some researches I conduct, here's what I found: https://withdrawalfees.com/coins/bitcoin. It's a site in which you can see withdrawal fees from different exchange. But it may be subjected to change when bitcoin goes up. Sometimes the fee are enormous it goes up as much as 20 dollars at some point. During 2017, the fee was .001 and btc's price was at ATH. I have used this site a lot but the data is not updated since August. Bitstamp withdrawal fees are not free, anymore. BTW, the alternative site has useful tools for calculating the fees: https://www.feexplorer.io/calculator#No I mean the fee to do the transaction on the native chain, not exchange
Check the example of comparison chart, it is somehow the only updated source I found on the net. https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-xrp-doge-zec-btg-ppc-blk-nmc-nvc.htmlThanks, surprised this is not on coinwarz or something at a per kbyte data amount, I mean it one of the most important metrics inmho |
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No I mean the fee to do the transaction on the native chain, not exchange
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Are there some good websites that compare fees of cryptos per transaction. After some googling I can only find half hearted references such as https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/03/30/which-cryptocurrencies-have-the-lowest-transaction.aspxMonero: $2.587 Bitcoin: $1.184 Dash: $0.363 Ethereum: $0.347 Litecoin: $0.198 Bitcoin Cash: $0.097 EOS: $0.0105 Ripple: $0.0037 TRON: $0.0000901 which are out of date, but that's the sort of thing I am looking for Edit I mean which crypto is the cheapest to do transactions and where can I find a good list of these? |
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I saw it mentioned that the adoption of crypto could be a way for more recent generations to escape the vice grip of boomer wealth by investment in super funds, property and well almost everything, by unwinding the value of the fiat bases denomination via transitioning to crypto.
The more I thought about it the more it made sense. The way the boomer generation is set up has semi "slaverify" (TM) every one else born after that through the invisible fiat chains.
The graphs in the 70's show where house price delinks from income.
BTC tech / Crypto offers a way out!
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Some of them just live the traditional fiat or the banking system for their salary only (mandatory most of the time).
I guess it will all depend on how we can stretch those kind of examples for them to easily understand everything.
It's all people know, and they also rely on the safety provided by centralized financial institutions because people make a lot of mistakes leading to a loss of money, get scammed, and so on.... most of which will be refunded to people. In crypto there is no such a thing as being refunded, because every mistake that leads to a loss of money is permanent and people don't want to deal with that.... they want to be spoon fed and looked after. I never really worry about using my banking app to pay for something online, while I constantly worry about using my mobile Bitcoin client and triple check everything to make sure I haven't made a mistake somewhere. It's a pretty big deal. My banking app failed the other day .... in fact millions of peoples failed, sure it was back online in 24 hrs but still.... |
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In my experience its seems that
[1] some people seem to just "get" btc almost as soon as they are introduced to it,
[2] others simply don't or
[3] become hostile without understanding BTC tech.
[4] Become hostile and do understand the tech.
The demarcation lines seem to me quite stark. Any theories as to why this is?
(I understand [5] those who just don't get it or are not interested, )
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If I want to developed and application for a lot of users say 100K plus and make say 10 transactions/day, I need smart contracts e whats the best alt platform eg
KOMODO? (they seem to have dex that idicates it is fast and cheap)
Graphene?
Waves?
NEM?
LISK (but dev of side chains never?)
XPR is not a crypto and to expensive to set up.
Stellar/Lumems? (but that locked up)
EOS seems out because too expensive ...
Eth is too slow and expensive ...
LTC and DOGE do not seems to have the contracts side...
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AFAIK there's no function to do that atm. You might need to build your own script to do that (and make sure others accept it). It could work but the coding part is not easy.
But, is there any reason why you give coins to Bob? If there's a possibility of him running away with money, you can either sent your funds directly to Alice, or use a multi-sig 2-of-3.
I need BOB to make an assessment of worth of ALICE services. Ok, so I will need to have a smart contract that BOB can only tell pre allocated amounts to Alice to shift. I am quite interested in ALICE having the freedom to move coins after that as then ALICE is incentivised to do their best to earn the coins |
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What I want to do is have
[1] BOB be able to decide how many coins up to a coin_max can be sent to ALICE
and
[2] I want BOB to only be able to send coins to ALICE between specific times.
eg between 10 am and 12.00 pm on xx/yy/zzzz BOB can choose to send between 0 ~ 10 coins to Alice.
how would i do this?
I feel that ALICE address must somehow be part of a multisig for the coins so that the coins BOB has must be signed by ALICE so that only where ALICE'S signed address is included can coins be moved.
However I can't quite see how to do this.
Would I need a contract preloaded with tokens and to what address the can goto and BOB can only say yes (go) and AMT, and the contract is pre loaded with all coins for all events?
what i am trying to avoid is BOB running of with the all the coins to some other arbitrary address
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So after that 1st leg 3 days ago or so, I was hmm where is the second leg, here we have it.
I think it will floor now and then dead cat the sideways.
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How is possible for someone to think that Bitcoin price drops faster, when in last 10 years Bitcoin raised 10000%? Where people see that fast drop, every time that
was only temporary, it takes time for the price to recover, but that happen eventually!
Probably price changes and how people see that are matter of perspective. Some people can see whole picture, while others see just what they want to see. I`m the
one who see the whole picture, and what I see is that Bitcoin price is rising for the last 10 years and that rise will not stop!
no I agree that it rise exponentially more over time but the rate of that rise is always slower than a rate of drop after that. |
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At this point is it realistic to assume that any large closed OS has code to try and get your private keys?
The way I look a it is this.
[1] Some person working at mega corp x, is a very skilled programmer, but for various reasons is not paid well and is not treated well. I imagine this goes in the 1000's of people at this level if not 100,000's
They decide to embed some code in a very hard to detect way that looks around for private keys especially at generation point and send them back to themselves.
[2] On the hardware a similar thing.
The upshot being you can only trust air gapped computers and transfer signed transactions by qr code.
Would you feel safe with a linux distro and not air gapped?
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To give and idea of the scope of BTC store of value I can see sovereign worth being denominated in provable BTC reserves.
Eg their credit rating will primarily hinge on how much BTC the hold and can sign the address to prove they hold it.
They systems in place to ensure that the BTC is not somehow stolen will show technological, trust and fair systems existing in that country as an insider must no be able to take the coins.
So every day a country will have to sign the address the coins are held on to prove solvency to the world and capital reserves or be downgraded and face loss of investment and capital flight.
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Gut feelings, they can't be right all the time.  Short term speaking I'm kinda bearish and expect a decline towards the lower $8000 area and perhaps a wick below it, but that would only offer a great buying opportunity if so. I'm confident that we'll get to see a peak of over $100,000 during the next longer term bull run, but as always, where will it land once we top out and start correcting? It certainly won't be pretty. My target is +$100,000 before the end of the block halving that will cut the rewards to 3.125BTC per block. I rather remain a bit conservative with my predictions and be surprised by how much more we have gone up. Yes I agree, I did not think we would hit near 14K this early, then again the amount of money printing via debt issuance is epic, the distortions in the economy are in the untold trillions. Essentially everthing is measure in FIAT and fiat is so badly broken where it can be printed and allocated on political whims rather than economic grounds. Those that control the fiat essentially get to control your life. Hence BTC. Infact Its hard to think or a reason to go back to Fiat even when BTC increases .... the value to have well value in with the unique properties of BTC is ..... invaluable. It's almost as close to freedom of existence that you can come to in your life. |
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I just *felt* a dumpage down by 10% to 20% over the next 2 weeks then a 5% up then sideways for about 6 ~ 12 months, then the next up over the year 2020 1/2 tp 2021 1/2 at which point we go to 250K ish USD.
my prediction
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I am happy with this coin
The wallet works
The tech works, it unique features, POI, and its own main chain
the distro was very good vs most others.
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It seems to me that while BTC clearly goes up over time, the drops seem much more steep eg x 2 or 3 than the rises almost always.
Why is this?
It seems the one predictable thing about BTC.
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The miners create 1800 bitcoin/ day, which means, with simple supply and demand, bitcoin will need ~$23.4 million of new investment/day just to buy the new bitcoin that is being created (not to mention holders selling new highs) to maintain that price. I am not a miner and i am not a professional analyst, but is it possible that all miners sell their 1800 bitcoin a day? and why would all the miners sell their 1800 bitcoins a day? and about "holders". why would they sell their bitcoins? because I suppose that many of them are willing to hold for many more years It could have saved a lot of people money in this fervor. charging $ 19.99 https://www.amsinger.org/subscriptionsyes, you " saved a lot of people money in this fervor " Lol if $20 is breaking ya, you are small fry. 1800 btc are mined every day unless the miners are deciding to hold massive amounts of coins at massively inflated prices. Does that seem logical to you? If you were making pencils for 10 cents and some guy offered you $10 per you would sell all your inventory in a heartbeat. That is how financial markets and regular markets work my friend. Yes its does sound logical. Get debt funded mining op mine coins go bankrupt coins hodl 2 your analogy is flawed, making pencils for 10 cents, only 100 pencils can ever be made. wait for $1000 each |
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