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12241  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin in a bubble right now? on: March 23, 2017, 10:02:22 PM
I do wish people would stop calling any price rise at all a bubble.

A bubble is a totally different beast that takes your breath away. This was a rally/rise.

But yes, 7-800 is eminently achievable. I don't think it'll be down to a fork because the likelihood of one is remote, but if there was one most of us would be dreaming nostalgically of 7-800.
12242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
You kept pushing to give it out for free. You made those statements and now are flip floping.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I can't reason with someone who can't understand what I'm typing.


Here is the through line of all those comments.

Original stakeholders do not deserve any more money.

If money is released from the silver fund it should be used to develop NEM further.

I haven't said anything else throughout. If you can't understand that then have a nap and reread it.

Feel free to farm my comments out for peer review.

12243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 06:23:29 PM
What do you think spreading it will mean? Just a bunch of bots automatically dumping, you know the drill. You've been around long enough, you know what happens if it was to be given out especially at these prices. I rather have it held in a community fund for future development and expansion.

Um, isn't that exactly what I'm saying?

Some choice quotes from a few cm above.


Was there ever an actual statement about plans for this?

Anyway, my position hasn't changed. Initial stakeholders did very well. I don't think they need any more money. What's left over should be going towards benefiting NEM as a whole.

I do not want to receive extra funds from the silver coin thing anyway. It should be for the greater good.
12244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 06:12:23 PM
Prove it, seems like you're a bit salty. Maybe you sold cheap last year?

Eh? Check the rich list.

I am not salty. I don't think the original stakeholders deserve any more XEM than they already received. It achieves nothing.
12245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How would bitcoin coexist with digital fiat in the future? on: March 23, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
97% of fiat is digital already. Cash is a quaint layer on top.

I can't think of many places that would willingly hand over total control of expenditure via implanted chips but no doubt someone's going to try.
12246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
So we have time until November to reach 2k$ or higher, then doom (because the fuckin' miners won't let Segwit happen)... good to know.

I wonder what the sentiment on the day will be. Will there be mass wailing? Barely a comment? Will there be a dead sexy alternative? Will the majority have forged something new together?
12247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
From https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/10/27/release-0.13.1/

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If segwit has not activated by the end of one retarget period after 15 November 2017, segwit will cease to be eligible for activation.

That's looking like a guaranteed non activation then. If Litecoin can't manage it then there's no chance its daddy can either.

Looks like I'll be switching to Groessselllcoin or whatever then for my Segwit fix.
12248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 03:42:21 PM
Which is wrong.. thats not the way to gain widespread adoption, just to let the initial holders make all the decisions. I'm out.

Incorrect, we can influence nothing unless we're on the team proper. There is no formal voting mechanism.

I do not want to receive extra funds from the silver coin thing anyway. It should be for the greater good.

12249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
Ok, seems like you missed your opportunity.

Initial stakeholders get to vote on the matter, they are the community who made all of this possible.  Cool

I am one.
12250  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 23, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Right now Segwit has more support than BU
Segwit=34%
BU = 33,3%

Isn't that just bog standard variance? The same way that BU was over 40% for a day or two. It would need to continue for a string of blocks to be able to get full sense out of it.
12251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2017, 03:23:06 PM
Yes, and it did scare the market... and is not ready for real world adoption. I don't think it will go further than it has, despite the bug fixes and so on. BU may have missed its mark" what ever confidence some had in it has eroded. But its still out there as an option.

I think it's a little like 9/11. It's the type of spectacular you can only pull off once before the whole world adjusts its behaviour and locks out the possibility of it ever happening again.

It has forced almost everyone who's anyone in this space to clarify how they would treat it in this scenario and it's not looking too promising for any type of contentious fork now.

The way forward for fork fans is to come up with something that is 100% unassailably so much better in every way that it becomes irresistible to everyone. That could be a little tricky but no one got anywhere by aiming for the low hanging fruit.
12252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: March 23, 2017, 03:10:57 PM
As you say the fund was set aside for silver coins and it should be used for it or be distributed to every original stake holder . Devs dont have time for silver coin project ,so easiest way just distribute xem .

Was there ever an actual statement about plans for this?

Anyway, my position hasn't changed. Initial stakeholders did very well. I don't think they need any more money. What's left over should be going towards benefiting NEM as a whole.
12253  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lot's of Casascius for sale, what's going on? on: March 23, 2017, 03:08:03 PM
Until we stop indexing the bitcoin price against the dollar, yuan, pound, euro, etc; premiums will always fluctuate.

I don't think that's ever going to go anywhere so people should make peace with the premiums reducing unless collector interest surges alongside the price.

I have a few coins. I've never bothered to include any premium above face value in my mind.
12254  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What's going on with BTCJAM.com ? on: March 23, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
Even if it's still twitching with signs of life, it's an astonishingly shitty idea that deserves to be stabbed until it doesn't move any more.

Lending an irreversible currency to strangers on the internet? Hmm. I think I can see a problem with that in there somewhere.
12255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is getting out? on: March 23, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
There will always be something out to 'get' us. That's the nature of being in on something during its nascent days.

The $1 buyers faced the very real prospect of it returning to nothing. The $1000 buyers have a whole buffet of scariness to choose from. The $1 people did rather well in the end despite the uncertainty. The $1000 people may do as well but they won't unless there's some skin left in the game.
12256  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BU is closed source??? WTF? on: March 23, 2017, 01:15:06 PM
You believe that the Chinese government cares about mining?Pretty solid conspiracy theory. Grin

Their actions certainly show they care a great deal about exchanges. Miners are easily found, are making huge amounts and can't exactly go anywhere in a hurry. If they don't turn their gaze towards them now, they will in the future.

If nothing else, they'll want to know where the money is going and coming from.
12257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
Good lord, the amount of concern-trolling in this thread has now reached epic levels.   Roll Eyes

Are you feeling alright? Don't you think you'd really feel so much better if you changed the node you're operating?

Before I was listless at night and was incontinent. Once I transitioned men want to be me and women want to be with me. And I can empty my bladder where I want and when I want.
12258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 09:21:18 PM
If I'm buying multiple coins, I'll use multiple wallets with never more than a single coin per wallet.

That sounds like a grind to me.



12259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 09:04:20 PM
Use a hardware wallet like ledger or trezor. Then you are safe. Well, the number of coins at least. The value of the coins is a different story Smiley

I thought a paper wallet was safe!!

Don't listen to that nincompoop.

Paper wallets created in the right manner are safe. You have your private keys and you can choose what to do with them.

Hardware wallet transactions require provider servers so you'd be waiting for them to make up their mind. You can of course take the hardware wallet private keys or seed and use them elsewhere too so it's much of a muchness.

12260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 04:12:26 PM
Semi related to Bitcoin - stay safe people in London:

https://www.rt.com/uk/381771-gunfire-loud-bangs-parliament/

I don't get the Bitcoin relation.

I also don't get why any terrorist, who'll no doubt be revealed to be mentally ill and helplessly radicalised, chooses one of the most guarded buildings in one of the most surveilled cities on the planet.

There's a whole country beyond where you could wreak havoc for an hour or more before anyone turned up to shoot you.
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