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12541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Places to Sell Bitcoin on: February 20, 2017, 10:58:37 PM
Localbitcoins face-to-face cash
Also the Mycelium wallet has a built-in trading feature called Mycelium Marketplace.

I just installed the Mycellium wallet, but I couldn't find any feature called Mycellium Marketplace, if you could tell me where that is located at that would be great!

Click on buy/sell Bitcoin at the bottom and you'll get your local options. In the UK it offers me the Mycelium Marketplace, Gildera and a credit card option.

You really, really shouldn't be selling for Paypal if you can possibly help it. Coinbase offer that option and that's the only place I'd consider doing it even if you have to give up a little info.
12542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2017, 09:36:26 PM
According to cointelegraph the Chinese traders are flocking to the Japanese exchanges. They must be buying on localbitcoins, then sending those Bitcoins to the Japanese exchanges. I wouldn't deposit on any exchange that won't let me withdraw for another month, and neither will most Chinese traders.

Ah. That makes plenty of sense. I guess they couldn't give up the old zero fees without some pangs. They're paying a healthy premium though.
12543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2017, 09:18:06 PM
Ironically localbitcoins (and anything else using Google’s captcha) is blocked in China by its great firewall. All those traders have to use a VPN to access it. If China decides to ban localbitcoins it would be ineffective.

I wonder what they're using it for. Buying coins as they wait to get back on an exchange expecting it to be somehow higher? Or doing some of that mythical capital flight? I'm kind of surprised by the figures.
12544  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Megaupload + Bitcoins on: February 20, 2017, 07:03:40 PM
Doesn't look good for Mr. Dotcom.
New Zealand judge upholds Kim Dotcom's extradition ruling.
Looks like MU 2.0 and Bitcache is history before it started!

I was under the impression that he was only a figurehead for Megaupload 2.0 but I may be wrong. I assume the wider team behind it is having pause for thought at least.
12545  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Daily life in Pyongyang on: February 20, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
I'm planning on going there some time this year hopefully, if it isn't  a nuclear slag heap  by then. I recommend the various vice documentaries on YouTube. The weirdest one is when they head to deepest Russia to seek out logging camps filled with north Koreans sent there to work for years on end. When they eventually do manage to interview some workers they didn't seem to understand the concept of a day off.
12546  Economy / Speculation / Re: The only way to get rich is by riding the next big alt pump on: February 20, 2017, 04:56:32 PM
but you can agree that it will take a very long time for bitcoin to mature to that point, maybe we are dead by that time, we can't wait 30 years just to have bitcoin at 30k, random example, i look at resoanable time frame, 2020 is my time frame for a great value otherwise i just dump and forget

That's somewhere around my cut off date too, but not in terms of gains. I don't believe 2020 is enough time for the gains some people are dreaming of. I do think we'll have a much clearer idea of what Bitcoin's fate will be by then.

If there isn't any scaling and even more centralisation then I'll be walking away. If it can't evolve then something else will.


I agree that 2020 is too short for bitcoin to increase in price dramatically.  I think it will take another two decade, that is if the current problem of Bitcoin is solved.  If not then I only see the current Bitcoin supporter moving to another cryptocurrency thus making all the prediction invalid.

As for Bitcoin fate, let us just wait for your time frame. I do not have an idea on when will the fate of bitcoin unfold.

What current problem? The scaling problem? Because that will never be fully solved, just like the internet scaling problem is always a problem, so in itself is not a problem, its just a never ending process.

If by 2027 21 BTC holders aren't rich it will be a disappointment. At least 1 million USD per 21 BTC holder should be guaranteed.

Of course there are always going to be issues,  but if it can't get past the current one which is eminently solvable then it won't be able to manage anything else in the future. It's something of a canary in the coalmine type of scenario.
12547  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your favourite FPS? on: February 19, 2017, 05:06:17 PM
No love for Goldeneye on the N64? That's a stone cold classic.

Anyway if you have a barn, a pile of money and the time here's the future - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Bh5iI2WY
12548  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are The Top 5 Favourite Websites Of Bitcointalk.org Members? on: February 19, 2017, 05:03:49 PM
Gaythugdating.com is the only website any right thinking person needs in their life. Hit me up on there sometime.
12549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: February 19, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
I'm really surprise with the XEM pricing. With all the good news and all the companies using NEM tech and we're still not even worth 1 cent.

That's possibly the key phrase there. As far as I can tell there isn't a significant project using the public chain. Using offshoots is a fine endorsement but not much more.

And price is mainly dictated by a few exchange whales. It'll need to ascend to the next level to blow them out of the water.
12550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2017, 01:24:30 PM

Keep your reasoned facts to yourself, especially when there's bigotry on the line.
12551  Other / Off-topic / Re: Suppose You got 50,000 Bitcoins on: February 19, 2017, 12:14:07 AM
Straight back to whoever or whatever sent it if that's possible. It might be someone's ransom for all I know. If that isn't possible then I'd buy 4.3 million sticks of RAM because it makes me feel better having it around me.
12552  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Things you didn't get when you first came to Bitcoin. on: February 19, 2017, 12:03:35 AM
When your awareness of BTC grew to the point where you started to properly learn about it, what were the things that initially befuddled you? I don't necessarily mean the tech stuff, I'll never wrap my head around that, but perhaps the behaviour of people in the Bitcoin scene.

For me at least it was the screaming obviousness of the amateurism that abounded and the willingness of people to trust others who blatantly didn't have a clue.

A case in point is Gox. When I got rolling it was still the go to place officially endorsed by everyone. Within a few minutes' investigation I could not believe anyone would entrust a $1.46 Starbucks gift card to such a joke of an operation, let alone real money. Then I read the entire Pirateat40 thread and my tits nearly flew off.

Newcomers, what is currently proving mysterious to you, old timers what got your goat or got you scratching your head?



12553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price Prediction by Vinny Lingham, steady 2-3X gains every year on: February 17, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Maybe he's being sarcastic about those returns not being amazing?

I'm willing to bet 1 Doge that that isn't the case. If you're balls deep in alts then insane returns and equally insane losses are par for the course. And most people here will never have been involved in any 'real' markets.
12554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
What happened with r0ach? Wasn't he very bullish on bitcoin last year?

He got kicked out of his synagogue for inappropriate behaviour. He hasn't taken it well.
12555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2017, 03:57:48 PM
It's okay to talk about politics, but maybe you guys could try to keep it a bit more directly related to bitcoin?

You must be new here. For some reason the second favourite subject of many people on this forum after Bitcoin is being vile about Yiddisher. Hopefully they'll all get their own sub section eventually where they can spit and foam in peace.
12556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price Prediction by Vinny Lingham, steady 2-3X gains every year on: February 17, 2017, 03:51:41 PM
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The more stable that Bitcoin becomes, the more it will be a store of value, and eventually it will become a currency — which will usher in a new era for Bitcoin.

That's the most interesting quote and something not enough people have picked up on elsewhere. True usage as a currency comes last and that's the really unpredictable bit.

For a small amount of people at present it's a currency, for the overwhelming majority who do spend it regularly, and it's probably not very many, it's just a fine way of sending fiat.


online trading, bitcoin trading, altcoin trading, forex trading
every year only get return 2-3 x or this mean profit and return 100-200% is not big profit

Man, crypto has spoilt you. Try moaning about that type of return in the real world and you'll wind up having a new arsehole torn for you.
12557  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I dream of a day BTC will be boring! [POLL] on: February 17, 2017, 03:35:20 PM
Your not dreaming because bitcoin is really boring. It is much boring compare to a credit card. The only use of bitcoin for me is used as making withdrawal and deposit to online casino.

Even if the price is doing nothing, which is very often, the sheer drama, madness and intrigue surrounding Bitcoin makes it the greatest show on Earth. Nothing else provides the same entertainment if you pay attention to the scene surrounding it beyond its pure usage.
12558  Other / Politics & Society / Re: FAKE NEWSPAPER FROM A POOR COUNTRY Confuses Alec Baldwin and Donald Trump on: February 17, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
I would have believed it, but Trump has already made it clear that he is against unnecessary military interventions.

I can't see how his track record will be any worse than any previous administration, but let's see how that plays out in the coming years. He seems like the type of person who dives in and asks questions later which is not a good combo to have with thin skin and a lack of education. Hopefully those checks and balances do their job.

12559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: February 17, 2017, 02:48:56 PM
also at kraken

if have anyone friend at kraken ask to add xem pair with usd


There's no reason for Kraken to add it. It's just another alt to them and there are others with much higher volumes. It's one of the best coins but they'll want something that makes them the most fees.
12560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2017, 02:42:07 PM
Us Brits still won't be having a 4 digit party for a little while yet.

Ah, but it'll make it all the sweeter when it arrives. I remember someone on Localbitcoins had an ad going for ages urging people to make history by being the first to pay £1000 when everyone else was a few hundred cheaper. I think that's a reverse psychology too far.
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