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1261  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: October 09, 2017, 06:35:04 AM
Holdings of btc.  Bitcoin can surpass gold's current price as many times in the future. The future is all about advanced technology and bitcoin is really the perfect asset to hold.
Bitcoin is the only currency or investment at present that is most expensive in the market. Bitcoin has already beaten gold badly and surpassed bitcoin in prices couple of months back. Besides as you said, the world is going digital day by day and people are leaving conventional methods of making deals, doing transactions etc. I think we should not hold onto gold anymore, switch to bitcoin.
1262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to get bitcoin every days? on: October 09, 2017, 05:09:36 AM
How can you earn 40 dollars a day in bitcoin?? , let's share the knowledge on this topic , and hopefully we get more success after share my experience in here
40$ a day? It is a quite big amount for me. It is possible but unlikely to happen, some ICO gives incentives 2 weeks since the ICO end while airdrop gives a week since the airdrop starts. Monthy and weekly payment basis for all ICO campaign and Bitcoin campaign. If someone could offer me that such kind of payment, I will grab the opportunity to do that.
Don't you think friend that much better question would have been how to earn bitcoin without investing because that is more important. If someone wants to earn bitcoin every day, he can spend on it every day. This way, his total amount will multiply with time. Signature campaign is best for earning bitcoin without spending a penny. Other than that, faucets are also an option.

1263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2017, 04:36:28 AM
My plan is very simple and that is to earn and buy as much as I can on regular basis and save it for future without taking any risk of investing it anywhere as I am sure that I will be making huge profits out of it by only holding them for a long term as price will increase in future and at that time I will sell my coins for higher profits.
It made me happy to see that you care about others and do charity. It is good to share your blessings with others because this is the way to achieve internal peace. If you will share it, there won't be any great loss and helping others in their difficult times will give reward to you one day. I believe in karma. I want to save bitcoin for my future, basically my children.
1264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Is Bitcoin Gambling Industry So Successful in the World? on: October 08, 2017, 07:49:35 AM

I think it's because many gamblers do not have access or gambling facilities, especially gamblers who come from countries that ban gambling. The existence of gambling in bitcoin gives access and facilities for them to gamble and gamble in bitcoin still be able to cover their profile, their identity can be kept safe in bitcoin gambling. So maybe gambling in bitcoin is more effective for them.

i'm the one who live in the country which banning gambling and all of related of it but since i know bitcoin i could gamble although not regularly and my friends also had same thing just like me and untill now i never had any problem regarding my activities so bitcoin can do what can not be done by other currencies and i think the growth of bitcoin will accelerate because people lately considering gambling use bitcoin is more easy than other currencies
 
If gambling is prohibited in your country then you must abide by the law like a good, obedient, civilized citizen.

Gambling makes people addict in no time, without them ever realizing it. With every shot, their urge to play increases! In the beginning, everyone has a good control but once they try to give up on it, they realize how much they have grown used to it. I advise you to quit it.
1265  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: October 08, 2017, 06:16:02 AM
So in trading how do you deal with loss? For example you've invested in an alt and now it has fallen quite hard and you're on the brink of losing all your bitcoin you invested in it.
How do you actually deal with it? Do you wait and keep on waiting in hope that it will bounce back up and return your investment or you sell and get whatever left of your investment?

When I encountered loss in trading, I always telling myself that loss is normal in the trading. Because of the loss that I encountered, I have now many knowledge and I use it to generate more profit.
after lost money you will have experience in trading. then we can make money later. recover our loss
Experience in trading should not start with huge loss. If you learn to a good extent and you can practice some of the good stuffs you have learnt, your losses should be minimal and when they come they should serve as experience for you to learn where you got it wrong, what you did not probably do or what you could have done to avert it. That is how losses should be seen.
this is what trading is because yes that right it is not start with a huge loss much better if before you go with trading is you have learn about it and make some study for before you go for you to have deal with loss.
For this, it is often said that you must know the killer to whom you are going to kill. Nothing will help you, your skill, and your luck if you don’t know about how to make things in work. So learning is there for you to understand what is necessary and what is not. Then your plan will help you to make scheme of work. Enjoy!
1266  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade or Hodling on: October 08, 2017, 05:25:34 AM
Day trading and holding are both good. The only advantage of day trading is you are always updated on what is happening on the market compared to long term holding where you just check them not too often.
It all depends on how much time you have for Bitcoins. If you are treating it as your second source of income and you are having some permanent job as well, then holding is the best option.

Otherwise, if your only source of income is Bitcoin and you are giving your entire time to Bitcoin then I must suggest you to go for day trading.

For me who cant look on the prices all day long will really do holding and will set only amount I wanted it to be as well as the the month I expect it to sell,though mostly it doesn't goes well that I wanted but as long as I earn enough from that coin then it'll be fine.

Right. Day trading is for people who have more patience and composure than most since prices can quickly drop and you have to have the ability to react quickly as well. If you lag down on while day trading, you'll end up missing good entrt or exit points
In my opinion, patience only for holder, day trader are the people can trade in a short time, they do not need to patience and wait the price of crypto increases or decreases. Because they need to have some plans before start to day trade, if they do not prepare and calculate careful profits or loss, they will take loss forever.
That is true. For the people who are doing day trade, they don’t have to take much tension for what is going to be at the end of day. Like you said, they must have a plan with which they have started their day, but as far as long term profiteers are concerned, they have to take patience all along their way because they could suffer more if they have loss at the end.
1267  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Should I Choose Bitcoin ?? on: October 08, 2017, 04:15:29 AM
The most common things pops up to my mind is that it makes our life works easier, Such as transferring transactions anywhere with low charge of fee, It is also very fast and efficient as long there is connection, but what i love most is that ive earned money while holding because anytime it fluctuates up and down, And if you have guts to do it then it will be profitable.
No doubt bitcoin can make one’s life easier. There are no hardships like in other jobs. Earning bitcoin is simpler than all other professions. Bitcoin is a brilliant digital asset which is praised by people from all around the world because it is a profit promising investment. It has never disappointed his holders in the past. Above that, it is the future of money.
1268  Economy / Economics / Re: If you have a lot of bitcoin, should you spend it or save it? on: October 08, 2017, 03:38:57 AM
If by "a lot" you mean really life-changing amounts of bitcoin like six figures or more in USD terms, then I would probably cash out some of it and convert it to other assets like precious metals, certain types of stocks that have "bottomed out" and are poised for major increases, and perhaps even other cryptocurrencies that are less valuable than bitcoin but still have the potential to return greater profits in percentage terms. Of course it doesn't hurt to hold some cash also just in case we have a deflationary collapse or even a natural disaster.

For amounts less than 100k USD, however, I would probably just save it, or "hodl" as they say...since the original poster was talking about amounts of bitcoin worth around 50 cents it would not make much sense to spend or cash out in this case.
This question may have asked by many members of this forum but if every time, the person is changed; we should answer him or her gently. It may be annoying for some people but I will help anyone who I think needs it.

If someone has a lot of bitcoin then he must start his own business and invest bitcoin there. When he earns profits, he must buy bitcoin with those and hold on until the next requirement or desire.
1269  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: October 06, 2017, 01:18:03 PM
Like I just said in my previous post, I think that Bitcoin will crash very soon, after $5,000 or $6,000 and then for a few years it will decline to under $2,000 again.
Who are you? A sorcerer? Cause only a sorcerer will predict such an evil thing. Decline to $2000? Grin I have no idea what would make you say that but I am sure not from the previous trend unless you are trying to predict the same scenario that happened during MtGox back then.

It is normal for bitcoin's price to drop in value due to its volatility but to this extent? I disconcur (if there is anything like that in the dictionary).
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 05, 2017, 12:26:17 PM
Both are a bit risky. After all, in both cases there is a chance to lose everything you have. But investing is a more reliable way to multiply your money. Personally, I prefer investing. Despite the fact that it is a slower process.
Why investment is risky, there are many places in bitcoin which gives decent profit without any trouble like mining, trading and ICO offerings. If you have enough fund you can choose the investment option which is perfect for you.
In gambling we cannot expect the return at all. If you are completely fortunate you can get the amount in game but again you play means you will have to face lose for sure in gambling.

There is also a risk on those three investment, no guarantees that mining/trading/ICO offerings will always give you decent profit. There will be always a risk to lose your invested money on those 3 activities. If there is no risks to lose money on that three investment then all people will do it without any worries, but in fact? There are many failed/scam ICO, many people lose on trading, non-profitable mining, etc.
You said was right since theres no investment which dont have risk,all of them do have it the risk of losing money which is always been tied up.You are right if theres an investments whic doesnt have any risk then for sure all people would really be rich as of now since they can able to make money without worrying too much. Gambling is just really good for entertainment and cant really be considered as an investment.
Your last statement made the whole game. Investments are always connected with risks. You can’t deny this fact that every business of loss and profit always been dived into the ocean of risk.

As far as the comparison of gambling and investing is concerned, I must say investing is all along best than gambling in every aspect. Gambling is just a waste.
1271  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Low Trade Volume on: October 05, 2017, 11:56:14 AM
Hi. Recently started trading Ethereum and Bitcoin so this all new to me. I was wondering what the decrease in trade volume could indicate? Seems like some a sign of big movement in one direction soon, but I'm just guessing there. Any suggestions?
I usually do not like to trade bitcoin to altcoin because the risk is very big but for the etherium the risk os lower. The principle is just the same with trade btc fiat " buy in low price and sell higher " .
there is the most hated thing in trading that is "hold", then after long wait price never move and finally cut lose. After cut lose the price then creep up. very prestasi .....  Grin
I think you are somehow misguided. If you just compare the prices of last two years there would be a difference of about $2k. Things are not so easy when you are holding because you always becoming worried of your loss or profit in upcoming time.

But holding seriously yield more and you are getting much more profits, just have to hold your emotions too.
1272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you Panic? on: October 05, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
Whether its bitcoin trading or altcoin trading, there is bound to come a time when your investment is getting dumped badly, and its panic time.
How do you panic? Does that really make you panic and do you take decisions that you actually regretted later? Or do you keep calm and HODL?
What makes you panic and how do you react to it?
To panic when you are losing money from what you expected profit I think is normal. For me, I use to remain calm and hold until it crosses the percentage of stop lose which I believe I can no longer endure on my investment before I will now sell at lose.
This is something which all the traders need to learn and understand as early as possible. Only then they can manage to earn a good amount of money and profit.

I think there is no room for getting panic or losing your patience in the world of trading. The moment you lost your control on your nerves, you are going to suffer a big loss. So remain calm.
You are right in this regard. People often panic when they see the prices going down. You shouldn’t be doing this because it is the matter of fact that whenever there is business there would be huge risks. And businesses are played over decisions and being panicked you are nothing to make wise and profitable results.
1273  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: October 04, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
Bitcoin could replace the dollar if the user continues to increase, according to data that the user is circulating that bitcoin is not more than 1% of the world population, if it could reach 30% then I'm sure the bitcoin can already beat the dollar.
Even if it does, there will still definitely be fiat basis in place for us to know its value or sometimes make transactions unless of course we want to switch totally from crypto to crypto and we both know that will be hard on cryptocurrency itself.
I feel both will still go hand in hand eventually and people will then decide which they want to choose to use or how they want to make use of what they have with them.
It is an impossible thing that the bitcoins would replace dollar. Dollar is the most highly valued legal currency o the world and it is the national economy type of superpower country.

No matter that bitcoins are becoming common day by day and are in excessive use by the people all around the globe but it still has no standard to match with the dollar.
1274  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: October 04, 2017, 08:27:33 AM
There are so many ways to earn bitcoin as online job. For example, joining signature campaign on this forum. It's simple way to earn bitcoin for mostly people in here. But, all of them need proccess. If you are newbie, you need to up your rank for minimum jr.member. Because, mostly campaign get requirement to join signature campaign is jr.member. I personally, working in regular job & offline job. Although, i have a big salary from regular job, but if i can get additional income, why not? So, my income so much. I can do anything like saving, investment, daily needs and more.
Everything takes process unless of course you already have a huge information technology skills you are entering the community with to make some cash. I have known a lot of professional traders from forex who saw crypto trading as the best opportunity to opt in to and utilize their skills to make more cash.

So many programmers and IT guys are also coming in hugely knowing their skills are hugely needed. However, asides this like you mentioned, people without skills needs patience even with signature campaigns before they can start earning something tangible.
It is not a deniable that that one could earn online if he has used the bitcoins as a source of income. There are a millions of sites on the internet dealing with the trading and investment in the form of bitcoins.

Anyone who feels safer to be into this could join the communities and earned the required amounts depending upon his experience and ability.
1275  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: October 04, 2017, 07:43:05 AM
Whatever I understand from the experience until now is we should hold the bitcoin as investment for long term purpose. I don't know why people are getting panicked about the selling as there is no reason to do that one. If I can see with my naked eyes that prices keep hiking for bitcoin then I would I worry about selling it anyway.
Some days we have also seen price dropping by well over $500 within 24 hours and that is certainly not some moves every trader can afford to overlook or pretend they do not realize the value of their holding is dwindling. So Hodling should be a conscious decision to keep and forget until whenever set conditions are met and that makes it unsuitable for everyone.
It is not that easy to hold bitcoin. You need to hold bitcoin with proper strategy and plans. You should be well aware of the fact that dumps and pumps are the essential parts of the bitcoin journey towards amazing prices and you need to stay damn calm when the prices are dumping. If you are accustomed to do panic selling than it is not an easy task for you to hold onto bitcoin.
1276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: October 04, 2017, 07:06:42 AM
I will soon sell when the price has gone up do not wait anymore because the price in the market can go down is not clear, and when the price drops it must quickly buy back in more quantities. then we can get more profit.
The important thing is that we can benefit when we sell Bitcoin. Because whatever the condition as long as we can get a profit margin then selling is a wise choice in my opinion. Due to the current uncertain situation we can not determine the direction of the bitcoin price movement. Prices may increase and may also decline rapidly. So it's better to take the safe way and also not to take risks.


that is right. I think with the recent fast moving or volatility of bitcoin prices, it is ideal to just target just a small percentage of gains like 3-5% because this way, you can easily achieve this and can be saved once the coin's price goes hard low after just a slight increase.
Don’t be at least this much silly with bitcoins. We all know that bitcoins are the most trusted and popular currency in the world not only in terms of international currency but also in context of producing big profits.

Earning profit of just 3% to 5% is very shameful if you are working with bitcoins because they can make you earn 100% profit as well.
We must have some valid reason behind all of our actions. If there is some urgent need and no money is in wallets, it will be wise to sell out one's own asset instead of borrowing from others. Actually, we are doing savings for such situations also. What good it would be if we have to beg others?  Everyone has his own nature. For example, you like travelling but I prefer staying at home but an outing is good.


Definitely, savings are done to meet your all of sudden monetary needs. We all are taught to save money for sudden misfortunes because we all know that we can anytime go bankrupt by getting fired from day job etc.

So it is wise to have some money to be used under such circumstances. Bitcoin are that’s why cherished by so many people because they can utilize them in their financial crisis easily.
1277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 04, 2017, 06:20:59 AM
As the current market rates fluctuates daily but as on weekends they fluctuates about 15dollars  so you can flip your bitcoins at weekends.
And, no holding your bitcoins for long is not a very good idea, you can trade them for other altcoins and then trade them back to btc after their incereased value, basically buy low and sell high.

Yeah i agree with you, if im on that situation same thing i will do..im not just hold my bitcoin but trade it into other currency, when other currency dump. And then turn it again into btc when the value of btc pumps. (Buy low and sell high), so in this strategy the  bitcoin you are going to hold for a certain time will earn more
2×, 3×......

I think you can only do this when the market is moving a lot. Most of the time, as bitcoin goes up, altcoins are going down (in bitcoin price). With what you are saying, you are basically taking advantage of the indifference of their price and I think that it only happens for a couple of hours, sometimes even a couple of minutes. So you should always be online in order to do it. I don't think that 2x, or 3x is really achievable in this strategy unless the altcoin that you bought suddenly went up which is kinda rare these days, tbh. So many coins are out there and everyone is trading this and that. People don't really support a coin anymore, they simply use altcoins as a tool to make profit and in the end of the day, they are going to convert those profit into bitcoin and hold that long term.
There is no doubt that altcoin market is not strong at all and if compared to bitcoin market, people are really shifting from altcoins to bitcoin. They do buy altcoin but just to use them in trading and earn profit.

With those profits at the end of the day, they buy bitcoin and treat them like long term investments because we all know that holding of bitcoin is the easiest method of becoming rich.
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: October 03, 2017, 01:25:10 PM
Of course gambling is taught to protect yourself from losses by setting limits and looking for a more stable source of income. Gambling is created only for entertainment and you can earn on them only by investing in gambling sites.
Setting limits doesn't end there i was going through stats of people who have profit in past and now are in loss there is nothing you can do you should always try to set a little profit don't over do the higher profit you keep the more you will lose it's better not to gamble if you can't control
Limitations would really a big help not only in gambling because once you already have it and full control your life decisions and your life will have a better outcome. There's no need to be too much eager for money give it a time and a full practice on which you can have a better money with right attitudes.
Money is very important for the survival nowadays but that does not mean to earn it in whatever way possible. Your first priority is our lives. For instance, if somebody tries to attack us directly with a knife, what will we do? Definitely run away or fight back.

Greed is also like that and we must not let it finish us. Gambling triggers that greed but people learn to get control over it also.
1279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: October 03, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
Math is the source of random algo used to get the result on a probability game like dice. Therefore​ it can be beat by means of Math too. This is still impossible for now but in the future it can be crack by some genius gamblers that want to win. There are some experements ongoing on how to gain on probabilty base game.

That's some very interesting research. Do you have any links to information on it?

I forgot the site. But you can manually search on google. I just saw it on a chatbox of some dice site. The guy is a high roller and experimenting for different combination to crack algo. I know that this sounds insane but I believe that it can be successful someday.
I do see those kind of person too on which they do made such calculations which they do really make it use to take advantage on the game but well i didnt really tend to believe if it does work or not because the thing on my mind is only that gambling houses cant really be cheated.I do believe that they are the ones who can possibly cheat its players but players cheating houses is really a rare case.

What I mean is not cheating but people who cracks a method to counter the result of the algo. Cheating is seeking the result of roll before you roll. I believe that there is a formula to solve the random result of algo. Even if it is just a slim percentage. Hehehe. Do you try experimenting too some methods?
If you have ever done programming or just seen some little easy code which generates number randomly, you will never ever able to figure out the algorithm by just watching some results. For instance, hashes are also algos but having 1000 of words and their hashes won't tell you the actual working. It is not very easy to find a pattern in something random, at least not for me.
1280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? on: October 03, 2017, 12:24:08 PM
Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )
To all people who have been experiencing this kind of situation I am sincerely want you to know that you can still get up and go back on track on life. As For me, I didn't get a loan for gambling, everything that I've wasted on gambling is hard earned money that's why the emotional suffering is very long and tiring but it is only a simple decision that changed my life and that is to STOP and from that decision everything changed.

For the people who are in debt. Decide to stop playing, find a regular job and slowly pay your debts, yes it is really hard but i assure you from that decision you will start to change your life slowly, it will be worth it.
We are always one decision away from change. If a person is living even after devastation, that means he is capable of moving on. To be very honest, I have never ever experienced great or small money loss but I have lost a lot of important people in my life. So, I know what sufferings are in real. We all have money problems but humans have the choice to be what they want to be.

It's kinda weird to link the lost of money to lost of love ones. I would say they are quite different. No matter what you do, you cannot bring back a dead loved one. But if money is lost, there is always a chance you can get it back and likely a lot more can be had. I dont think it is a good analogy to compare money with love ones. That's just sad.
Indeed both are different but pain has no type. No matter whatever the reason is, at the end of the day anything that we lose ache our hearts. You lose money, you will suffer.

You lose close ones, you will suffer and suffering is same, just painful and also losing someone does not mean to lose his body or physical appearance. Moreover, there are gamblers who have committed suicide that means recovering from it is not very simple.
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