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I do not know if you are a paid amt spokesmen with lack of knowledge or just a troll but among all stupid things posted the undersized share and diff 64 made May Day. As native English speaker you should be aware of the luck and variation meaning.
In short they used diff 1 or undersized share as you call just to avoid the variation and show the performance for a minute. With 64 share it will be the same but more time is needed. I do not have free time to comment all by one all of your bright and shiny thoughts. Please take my apology for that
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Loshia stop making problems. I said I liked the member that offered that bet, that it was funny, to give an over under on a wattage spec and then parlay it with a hashrate. He made a joke and it was humorous.
Wattage is 0.9 nominal as projected. Loshia, we use a different board in this miner than the one board you've had experience with thus far. You of all people should know that the board makes the difference. If you'd like, we can have you review our miner as well. Would that be something you'd like to do Loshia?
1. Congrats gys I am impressed -no irony 2. 1068x1.2 is around 1.3 KW at the wall doubling projected 600w min consuption and with 44% over 900w 3 the bet that I was about to make was for 900 w at the wall so I still feel winner here. Unfortunately no one including the guy with jockes and even you did not take it. I am still wandering why? That we're quickest 10k usd you were going to make or I am mistaken? 4. I have some doubts about performance stability and espesialy if it will mine stable for more than one minute after cgminer startup 5. I would be glad to make an review with miner in hand. I know that there is no free lunch so I would like to know what shall I pay in btc and when I will be getting my miner 6. A video of stab ale 1th after 24 hours of mining will convince me that job is done well Good luck to all of you Ps: After carefully watching video I can tell you that: 1. the 5 modules are carefully chosen with 1 or two dead cores per module. Nothing bad about that  in reality one dead core equals to 1 GH and common thing is that you gona loose almost one chip or 20 -25 gH for 40 chip setup. Not your fault for sure. The chips are as they are 2. The interesting part for me is why 5 th module is underperforming so badly? Some technical difficulties when adding more modules? Flaw in design? 3. You know that turbo mode is a fiction and too power hungry and it will blast away your projected 1.3 kW estimations right? 4 if you add 6 th module how badly it will underperform? Let me put it other way does the design allows more modules to be added at all? 5. What psu are you going to use to provide at least 100A/12v (110a with spare) Thanks for reading. |
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Maybe a wager is called for here! AMT is claiming a much better wattage than what loshia claims is possible. Dude, They just admitted the fact that 900 is fiction and made first steps to the real info 1680 WATS. I just do not get your comment as long as i quoted AMT_miners which supposed to be official AMT account. Did i miss something? So the AMT official says it is at 1680 watts for 1.2 THs miner? Is that correct? So is 1680 watts possible here? I do not know in my opinion no but they are getting close +20% If they put 30% more chips yes it is possible but accourate figure in my appinion is arrond 2 |
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Maybe a wager is called for here! AMT is claiming a much better wattage than what loshia claims is possible. Dude, They just admitted the fact that 900 is fiction and made first steps to the real info 1680 WATS. I just do not get your comment as long as i quoted AMT_miners which supposed to be official AMT account. Did i miss something? |
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bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil Ok, I admit that I have not looked at the power numbers for bitfury versus coincraft. How do bitfury and coincraft compare? Why don't we see 1.2 THs systems with Bitfury on board? 1. As far as i know bitfury is not shipping chips anymore. the last sold chips were last year November if i remember correctly. There was a powerful design more chips per board from Bitfury itself and guess it never worked! 2. And designing TH unit in a box is pain in the ass because of various reasons, power, heating, chip density,PCB requirements and so on. It does not matter if it is bitfury coin craft or whatever. Small designs are more flexible in terms of power requirements and cooling. that is the main reason people do not build TH in one unit. But from marketing point of view TH in a box for 600W is a dream Look at the cointera - i am not watching their thread closely but as far as i know instead of 2TH promised they are in 1.3-1.4TH i guess with 30-50% increased power usage also. that is the realty we all have to face. But this is not excuse for AMT and misleading info provided! |
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Best of lucky finding a manufacturer that can ship you 2.4 Th/s by April.
Bitmain units are all in-stock. Order from them now you'll have it next week. True. And for just about 600 dollars more, plus the higher power cost. Not saying anything bad about Bitmain. It's actually a pretty good comparison. Hmm, I want to know why our co-op put in over $20K worth of Bitmine orders in Oct./Nov. well before AMT was their official reseller... ...and we still haven't gotten our Bitmine rigs or updates.  That's what I keep telling these trolls, if Bitmine the main manufacturer is delayed, then obviously AMT will be delayed. The only thing going for AMT is that it is U.S. based and can ship units faster to U.S. customers than Bitmine can. One other thing, they are not using Bitmine boards, but locally produced ones. The chips, apparently, are not an issue at this point. It is my suspicion that they are still using Technobit's design. I don't know that for certain, but some things Jim said jibe with the description of the board by Marto74. (didn't screw up your name, Martin, no white shirt!) But rather than directly buying them from Bulgaria, they're making them in or around Philly. Should cut the time frame quite a bit once they get up to speed. I've seen at least one report of that board already hashing, so the production issues should be minimal. That is the likely situation, the boards are Technobit design. Just like they sold technobit design boards for the bitfury system. I first thought that they may have been a problem with the coincraft A1 chips, however technobit is shipping stable versions, so it is not the A1 chips. There is clearly something else going on here. It is OBVIOUS that AMT is deliberately not showing progress by not showing photos of completed units. AMT is not the only one, Bitmine.ch is doing the same thing. The question then is WHY are they shooting themselves in the foot? ANSWER: Retail is a crap business. Both Bitmine and AMT are going wholesale. They don't give a damn about the retail business. Wholesale? Did you not read the news in January that CoinSeed was buying $5 million worth of Bitfury boards? (see: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140123006299/en/CoinSeed-Invests-5-Million-BitFury-Bitcoin-Mining#.Uvthn0JdVng) Well Bitfury is obsolete. That is just a ruse, they are likely buying $5 million worth of Coincraft. Also do you notice that the trolls here are so involved in trying to spread FUD? What's in it for them? They want you to sell your spot... that is why. AMT and Bitmine retail business is history pretty soon. It is simply not worth it for them, they've used retail to build up their cash position and they are moving into wholesale. bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil If i can invest 5 mil and i can scale fast i would buy furies for sure assuming same price per GH |
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First off Loshia, something i've wanted to mention for a while is how you use the expression "at the wall", which is really "to the wall", and comes from the expression "balls to the wall", which is an expression used to represent acceleration or "full throttle" which was created by pilots who would push the throttle lever (the ball) to the point where it actually touches the panel (the wall). And we know you mean it from a consumption standpoint of course, I just wanted to throw that out there. Say "to the wall".
I think the 600W to 900W quote is a bit unrealistic yes. But I also think your 1.7W is a bit too much. That why i said i'd bet on 1w/ghs nominal and 1.3w overclocked or "to the wall". And yes this will be from the miners AMT ships, not demo's of course.
If you really want to make it interesting we could a .4w over/under 1.1w/ghs spread bet with a parlay for hashrate expectancy. What do you think?
He means he measures it "at the wall" socket using a Watt meter or kill-a-watt meter. Its the usual term, you are the one who is confused. At the wall just means that is what the psu pulls from the wall socket compared to what the miner pulls from the PSU. +1 Biffa  so my English is not native. To make it clear for you i am still taking bets if: http://mineforeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mining.jpgThey have to make 900W like the picture above. Clarification black power cable which is connected to kilawatt should be cumming from AMT machine And do belive me AMT is misleading you a lot about actual power consumption assuming their unit is doing 1.2T I did not mean to offend regarding the literary correction, please don't take offense. I don't think AMT meant to mislead, I also don't expect them to come in at 900W overclocked either. I do think they will hit 950W to 1100W range at nominal speeds and 1200W to 1400W overclocked. If you can find a bet in there. I'll take it. Dude, I do not feel offended not at all. Without tying to offend you you sound like my Literature teacher when i was in 8 grade. Speaking to much and telling nothing. Same like government guys do. When you ask a question you expect a clean response which is not happening. That is their job after all never to give clear answers and always disguise the truth Stop talking about normal and turbo mode speeds. Just tell me what bet are you taking for 1.2TH unit measured at/in wall or which way you like it as long it is same like the picture posted. We do not care about turbo/non turbo mode, chip count and all that stuff. The only thing that we do care about is 1.2 TH ONE unit making 1.2TH mass shipped not a sample 1.3W/Ghs and under. Super 1.3x1200 = equals to 1560 Wats. That is doable for mas production though in case they sacrifice 20-30% of their chips. So you admit that the 600-900W is very underestimated and misleading information. Not to sound like literature teacher i am NOT talking the bet for 1560 Wats, because i said it is DOABLE. But i DO still take bets for 900W  as i stated initially. What about you? |
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First off Loshia, something i've wanted to mention for a while is how you use the expression "at the wall", which is really "to the wall", and comes from the expression "balls to the wall", which is an expression used to represent acceleration or "full throttle" which was created by pilots who would push the throttle lever (the ball) to the point where it actually touches the panel (the wall). And we know you mean it from a consumption standpoint of course, I just wanted to throw that out there. Say "to the wall".
I think the 600W to 900W quote is a bit unrealistic yes. But I also think your 1.7W is a bit too much. That why i said i'd bet on 1w/ghs nominal and 1.3w overclocked or "to the wall". And yes this will be from the miners AMT ships, not demo's of course.
If you really want to make it interesting we could a .4w over/under 1.1w/ghs spread bet with a parlay for hashrate expectancy. What do you think?
He means he measures it "at the wall" socket using a Watt meter or kill-a-watt meter. Its the usual term, you are the one who is confused. At the wall just means that is what the psu pulls from the wall socket compared to what the miner pulls from the PSU. +1 Biffa so my English is not native. To make it clear for you i am still taking bets if: http://mineforeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mining.jpgThey have to make 900W like the picture above. Clarification black power cable which is connected to kilawatt should be cumming from AMT machine And do belive me AMT is misleading you a lot about actual power consumption assuming their unit is doing 1.2T I did not mean to offend regarding the literary correction, please don't take offense. I don't think AMT meant to mislead, I also don't expect them to come in at 900W overclocked either. I do think they will hit 950W to 1100W range at nominal speeds and 1200W to 1400W overclocked. If you can find a bet in there. I'll take it. Dude, I do not feel offended not at all. Without tying to offend you you sound like my Literature teacher when i was in 8 grade. Speaking to much and telling nothing. Same like government guys do. When you ask a question you expect a clean response which is not happening. That is their job after all never to give clear answers and always disguise the truth Stop talking about normal and turbo mode speeds. Just tell me what bet are you taking for 1.2TH unit measured at/in wall or which way you like it as long it is same like the picture posted. We do not care about turbo/non turbo mode, chip count and all that stuff. The only thing that we do care about is 1.2 TH ONE unit making 1.2TH mass shipped not a sample |
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First off Loshia, something i've wanted to mention for a while is how you use the expression "at the wall", which is really "to the wall", and comes from the expression "balls to the wall", which is an expression used to represent acceleration or "full throttle" which was created by pilots who would push the throttle lever (the ball) to the point where it actually touches the panel (the wall). And we know you mean it from a consumption standpoint of course, I just wanted to throw that out there. Say "to the wall".
I think the 600W to 900W quote is a bit unrealistic yes. But I also think your 1.7W is a bit too much. That why i said i'd bet on 1w/ghs nominal and 1.3w overclocked or "to the wall". And yes this will be from the miners AMT ships, not demo's of course.
If you really want to make it interesting we could a .4w over/under 1.1w/ghs spread bet with a parlay for hashrate expectancy. What do you think?
He means he measures it "at the wall" socket using a Watt meter or kill-a-watt meter. Its the usual term, you are the one who is confused. At the wall just means that is what the psu pulls from the wall socket compared to what the miner pulls from the PSU. +1 Biffa so my English is not native. To make it clear for you i am still taking bets if: http://mineforeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mining.jpgThey have to make 900W like the picture above. Clarification black power cable which is connected to kilawatt should be cumming from AMT machine And do belive me AMT is misleading you a lot about actual power consumption assuming their unit is doing 1.2T. PERIOD. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN NEVER |
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I know the details of their business are shady, that is why I'm asking they post PICTURES of all the chips, boards, power supplies and cases. We can debate the other things until the cows come home - but if they provide actual photos of all the hardware they have been purchasing to build these miners out, it will put everyone (including myself) at ease.
This isn't an unrealistic request. GET TO IT!
There's a photo of batch #1 that shows clearly that there at least 1,500 coincraft A1 chips. At say 40 chips per machine, that makes about 37 units. 40 chips per machine for 1.2 TH? That is a joke dude that makes about 2.4Kw at the wall. or put 80 chips per machine to reduce power - not going to happen They should split that and deliver two machines instead of one One for living room and one for dining room connected to separate fusses and the beauty is that when you need to turn on your oven, washing machine, air conditioner or whatever you will need need to turn off your AMT machine. Apart of the jokes for all you who are waiting for the AMT machines. Do you homework and be prepared for huge power draw for 1.2 TH check your fuses, wires in your homes in advance and make sure you can provide enough power for this beasts in advance! In order to continue to live like a human using your tv, washing machine and so on when you need/want to I am wandering what they are producing actually at full speed And what they will deliver next Week as promised? And why they do skip such a simple questions about power draw, chip count per device and so on. Before going to production a prototype is needed a hashing one. Did they skip this part at all? Do they have a prototype before production? Any way we will wait and see............. PS: I am still taking bets about power Are some brave guy's here who want to make quick money I'll take that bet. I'll bet 1btc they come in at 1w per ghs or under at nominal speed with a 10-20% increase overclocked. The minimum is 7 btc 1:3 bet seven and earn 21 dude. Have in mind that we are talking for 1.2T MASS SHIPPED units only. I do not care if they are overclocked with 40 chips inside or they are underclock with 200 chips inside. Up to AMT. in theory they can make it for a prototype but in practice they will deliver 1.7W.Gh at least so my conditions are: I bet 21BTC you bet 7 BTC if i loose you get 21. if i win i get 7. And bet is 1.2 TH unit consuming 600W at the wall. To make it easier for you we will take 900w AMT highest expectations so we are talking about 900W at the wall Do you take it? PS: 900W at the wall means 0.75W/GH just the chip data sheet power about 1V Complete Nonsense!!!!!!! Or i propose to make a group bet then. Collect 7 btc and let me know. then you will split my 21 between all participants PS: You have a slight chance to win if your power supply company provids you with 1V DC instead of 120/220 AC I am wandering what is the voltage in your home at the wall 1V DC I guess no but miracles still do happen  And RWmax went offline |
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That not possible. What is your PSU & how many board connected to the PSU? My PSU is a "be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W". It supports up to 15 amps on +5V and 27 amps on +12V - which should be more than enough for one board only. I'm not using a TP-Link with a ready-made image, so I have to figure out what exactly "cgminer-api" is generating to post a similar output. The cgminer-3.11.0 has been patched and compiled by myself - according to other "success stories" on the net. [/quote] just click next tab to cgminer-configuration in the web and post the output |
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The chip will hash at slower speed or not hash at all if too low or too high. Sometimes i accidentally set the frequency to 150  after flash new image to TL-MR3020 I know... but with --hexminerc-options 16:1500 the hash rate is still too low (~10GH/s)!  How should the chips be labeled? Perhaps I got the right Board (dmesg says so) with the wrong chips... dude, check cgminer-api and post the output... |
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I know the details of their business are shady, that is why I'm asking they post PICTURES of all the chips, boards, power supplies and cases. We can debate the other things until the cows come home - but if they provide actual photos of all the hardware they have been purchasing to build these miners out, it will put everyone (including myself) at ease.
This isn't an unrealistic request. GET TO IT!
There's a photo of batch #1 that shows clearly that there at least 1,500 coincraft A1 chips. At say 40 chips per machine, that makes about 37 units. 40 chips per machine for 1.2 TH? That is a joke dude that makes about 2.4Kw at the wall. or put 80 chips per machine to reduce power - not going to happen They should split that and deliver two machines instead of one One for living room and one for dining room connected to separate fusses and the beauty is that when you need to turn on your oven, washing machine, air conditioner or whatever you will need need to turn off your AMT machine. Apart of the jokes for all you who are waiting for the AMT machines. Do you homework and be prepared for huge power draw for 1.2 TH check your fuses, wires in your homes in advance and make sure you can provide enough power for this beasts in advance! In order to continue to live like a human using your tv, washing machine and so on when you need/want to I am wandering what they are producing actually at full speed And what they will deliver next Week as promised? And why they do skip such a simple questions about power draw, chip count per device and so on. Before going to production a prototype is needed a hashing one. Did they skip this part at all? Do they have a prototype before production? Any way we will wait and see............. PS: I am still taking bets about power Are some brave guy's here who want to make quick money |
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My 24 GH/s HEX16A2 fully Assembled bitcoin miner (chips included) (Order No. CVMKAARFU) is not making half the hash rate, which should be reached (over clocked). What went wrong? HEXc 0: 1500 1100/1103mV | 11.00G/11.17Gh/s | A:1120 R:0 HW:21/2.05% WU:156.0/m Chimner-API stats small letters only? |
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So my order got shipped today, thanks for this any specs now about needed PSU power? I only have 2 rails with 22A and from what I have read so far, It will not be enough, right? regards You need at least 40 amps for oc If two retails 22 a each is the bottom line 44a total I am having 700 w single rail rated at 55a 12v no issues However if you under lock volt you will need less not sure if my 4 pci express wires are connected to those 2 rails... so with oc you mean for at least 260 GH/s it should be sufficient theoratically? Depends of your board but around 260 . I can not guarantee you that. For instance I have some dead chip cores. To clock it and get around 260 you need 45 amps at least. I pushed my beyond safe limits and it is making 270 g but I will go back to 230-240 just to be on a safe side |
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I was a bit worried early about whether bitmine.ch chips would be stable in 8 chip configurations. Well it turns out that technobit has shipped their systems and it looks quite stable: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450228.0This is very good news! Now all we need to hear now is if AMT's manufcaturer's can place them chips on the boards correctly! Yes they are in fact 100% guarantee What do you mean? I mean that techno bit product is hashing without any issues nonstop |
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I was a bit worried early about whether bitmine.ch chips would be stable in 8 chip configurations. Well it turns out that technobit has shipped their systems and it looks quite stable: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450228.0This is very good news! Now all we need to hear now is if AMT's manufcaturer's can place them chips on the boards correctly! Yes they are in fact 100% guarantee |
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So my order got shipped today, thanks for this any specs now about needed PSU power? I only have 2 rails with 22A and from what I have read so far, It will not be enough, right? regards You need at least 40 amps for oc If two retails 22 a each is the bottom line 44a total I am having 700 w single rail rated at 55a 12v no issues However if you under lock volt you will need less |
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By the way: The evidence indicates that this is an one-man business façade using the registered name of a legal entity to instigate a sense false of confidence. I asked ATM_miners what was the legal entity which represents the sales being offered in the advancedminers.com Internet page. Instead to him clarify the matter by identifying who responds for the "Advanced Mining Technologies", he decided to ignore the question: Joshua Zipkin is one of our employees, some came to his house this morning asking to buying a miner and was walking around his property really suspiciously.
Please remove that post, your endangering the guys family.. seriously.
Hi, I am sorry, but the post will remain there. By the way, if you are not Joshua Zipkin, who are you? Who legally represents the business selling the products on advancedminers.com? Where the legal entity is registered? Augusto Croppo. We'll have to respond accordingly then. Thank you for jeopardizing someones family.
The question was not answered until the present moment. Therefore it is safe to assume that AMT is operating unregistered in USA. That poses a risk for customers as it is much more difficult to deal legally with an unregistered business rather than a registered business. Tell me again pls. For instance Bfl is a legal us business company and so what? I haw not heard of a single court case against them. I am not mentioning the amount of fucked customers they have |
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