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12801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 23, 2014, 11:40:16 PM
This is just a marketing stunt to garner attention to the company. We are not even close technology wise, and you cannot guarantee a product for a date when it is currently physically impossible.
Basically this is correct.  Here's the way it goes.

Show us some working long nanotube cables.

Now show us some longer ones.  How about some really, really long ones.

Then....

Show us some tethers hanging out behind satellites and how they perform.

....really long ones....

Then the pieces can be started to be talked about being put together.

12802  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: September 23, 2014, 10:16:42 PM
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Exodus 21

These are the ordinances that you shall set before them:

2 When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. 3If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. 5But if the slave declares, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out a free person’, 6then his master shall bring him before God.* He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.

7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. 9If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.* 11And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out without debt, without payment of money.  

Those fucking Christians am I right? Tongue


lol...
12803  Other / Politics & Society / Muslim BS on: September 23, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
Verse 54:1-2 of the Qur'an reads:

    اقْتَرَبَتِ السَّاعَةُ وَانشَقَّ الْقَمَرُ وَإِن يَرَوْا آيَةً يُعْرِضُوا وَيَقُولُوا سِحْرٌ مُّسْتَمِرٌّ
    The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder.

Really?

REALLY?

No, some 7th century dude didn't split the Moon.  It's there just like it was always.

______________

The following is cited as a "Miracle."

http://discoveringislam.org/mohammad_miracles.htm

 Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 777:

Narrated by Al-Bara:

We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred (1400) persons on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty). (At) Al-Hudaibiya, (there) was a well. We drew out its water, not leaving even a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and asked for some water, with which he rinsed his mouth. Then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short while. Then, we drew water from the well and quenched our thirst.  Even our riding animals drank water to their satisfaction.


Really?

REALLY?


So, you pulled all the water out of the well and then water trickled back in from the surrounding earth?  That's what wells DO.

Duhhh!
12804  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 10:00:50 PM
Two wrongs may not make a right, but often the second wrong gets rid of the first wrong, one that would make many more if nobody got rid of it.

Smiley

That was the first "solution". Because Europe got raided by Muslim crackpots we got a set of crackpots of our own (Catholics) to get rid of them. Then it took over 1000 years to get rid of our crackpots, resulting in a very very long Dark Age.
So rather put the wrongs in the wrong shelf.
Hey, why complain?

At least they are OUR crackpots.
12805  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: September 23, 2014, 09:34:59 PM
+++ Excellent.

David Suzuki, a raving nutcase of Global warming, says this:

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/issues/climate-change/science/climate-change-basics/climate-change-deniers/

After 15 years of increasingly definitive scientific studies attesting to the reality and significance of global climate change, the deniers' tactics have shifted. Many deniers no longer deny that climate change is happening, but instead argue that the cost of taking action is too high—or even worse, that it is too late to take action. All of these arguments are false and are rejected by the scientific community at large.

Bolded above, is an outright lie.

It's well understood and totally obvious that for example, it's smarter to move where people live a few hundred yards from the ocean rather than try to make the ocean recede by reducing carbon put into the air, and supposedly move the ocean.

Anyone around here want to try to move the ocean?

Go ahead, be my guest.  Line up on the side with the guy that says you can.
12806  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 09:12:03 PM
@DhaniBoy

Then why aren't Muslims more secure and prosperous? Because you guys are neither!

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the crime rate there is much decreased

No, my friend, Islam has no low crime rate, it has LEGAL crime. Many things Sharia allows you to do, like pedophilia, would send you directly to jail everywhere else in the planet.

@awesome31312

History and Legends are different subjects. Unlike most religions where someone claims someone else was talking to God, Muhammad is the only one who was bold enough to say "I'm talking to God".
Hold up, Sharia doesn't allow you pedophilia, are you crazy? Get your facts straight and read from good books you find in libraries, not Ebooks you found for free online.

That's really silly. The same "good books you find in libraries" can be found for absolutely free of cost on the internet, notably, in torrent form on here

And to the other guy, pedophilia was and is more rampant in the Catholic Church.

No, you are completely wrong.  It can be argued that "times were different back then and people married earlier".  Yeah, like at 9 years?

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia#Pedophilia_in_the_Qur.27an

Pedophilia is permitted in the Qur'an, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example.

Okay, let's ignore that and just look at the modern day.

http://theweeksreview.blogspot.com/2010/09/open-gay-pedophilia-is-rampant-in.html

Having young boys to service adult men sexually is an accepted cultural tradition in places like Afganistan, Pakistan, etc.  It's arguable whether you want to say it's an Islamic or a cultural practice accepted but against Islam.  But for sure, the practice is very widespread and therefore there would be many orders of magnitude more of such activity in these Muslim countries as compared to the Christian or Catholic.
12807  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue

Maybe we hate Islam becuase we dont want to be under your stupid Sharia Law and thats our right. Muslims dont get that, they want to apply their values everywhere, even places that dont want them. I enjoy having a drink, I dont think women should have to wear burka's and I definetly dont want to face some fucked up law system with my life on the line. Notice the things punishable by death in Saudi Arabia:

    Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)
    Apostasy (Apostates are sentenced to beheading but are usually given three days to repent and return to Islam.)
    Armed robbery
    Blasphemy
    Burglary
    Carjacking
    Aircraft hijacking
    Drug smuggling
    Fornication
    Home invasion
    Sodomy, homosexuality, or lesbianism (If a man or woman is sodomized by their own consent, then they will also be sentenced to death along with the sodomizer)
    Idolatry
    Murder
    Rape
    Sedition
    Sexual misconduct
    Sorcery
    Terrorism
    Theft (fourth conviction)
    Treason
    Waging war on God
    Witchcraft

Thats why I hate Islam, because im not a muslim. I dont give a shit about Muhammad  and I sure as fuck dont want to be under sharia law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VQk_VklYUc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols


Ohh yea, your also murderous scum who will allways wage war in the name of Allah. Better yet you even wage war on your fellow Muslim's(Sunni Shiite). Then say ohh they arent true Muslims, then stand up to them if they are giving you a bad name. It seems every muslim I meet though preaches the same shit or they call themselves Muslim but dont really practice.  As soon as you say Sharia law should be imposed on every one your an extremist.
And a Hater.

And thus you could be prosecuted under hate crime laws.

At least it looks that way to me.


Therefore the OP is backwards - it's not "why do people hate Islam" but that Islam dogma creates and propagates hate and hateful actions.

But yeah, Muslims I know do not believe any of this nonsense dogma. 



Prosecuted under hate crime laws? Shut the fuck up welcome to freedom of speech and the internet, its my opinion and im free to state it. No different then some muslim screaming death to infidels and calling for destruction of the west on twitter and facebook. Fuck sharia and Fuck Muhammad!!!! now call the cyber police and tell them you want justice!


Hey, cool down.  I meant if they acted on their hates.  That's what hate crime law is about, (not that I favor it, by the way). 

But yeah, welcome to freedom of speech, as long as we are not in countries or areas dominated by control freeks such as muslim mullahs.
12808  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue

Maybe we hate Islam becuase we dont want to be under your stupid Sharia Law and thats our right. Muslims dont get that, they want to apply their values everywhere, even places that dont want them. I enjoy having a drink, I dont think women should have to wear burka's and I definetly dont want to face some fucked up law system with my life on the line. Notice the things punishable by death in Saudi Arabia:

    Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)
    Apostasy (Apostates are sentenced to beheading but are usually given three days to repent and return to Islam.)
    Armed robbery
    Blasphemy
    Burglary
    Carjacking
    Aircraft hijacking
    Drug smuggling
    Fornication
    Home invasion
    Sodomy, homosexuality, or lesbianism (If a man or woman is sodomized by their own consent, then they will also be sentenced to death along with the sodomizer)
    Idolatry
    Murder
    Rape
    Sedition
    Sexual misconduct
    Sorcery
    Terrorism
    Theft (fourth conviction)
    Treason
    Waging war on God
    Witchcraft

Thats why I hate Islam, because im not a muslim. I dont give a shit about Muhammad  and I sure as fuck dont want to be under sharia law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VQk_VklYUc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols


Ohh yea, your also murderous scum who will allways wage war in the name of Allah. Better yet you even wage war on your fellow Muslim's(Sunni Shiite). Then say ohh they arent true Muslims, then stand up to them if they are giving you a bad name. It seems every muslim I meet though preaches the same shit or they call themselves Muslim but dont really practice.  As soon as you say Sharia law should be imposed on every one your an extremist.
And a Hater.

And thus you could be prosecuted under hate crime laws.

At least it looks that way to me.


Therefore the OP is backwards - it's not "why do people hate Islam" but that Islam dogma creates and propagates hate and hateful actions.

But yeah, Muslims I know do not believe any of this nonsense dogma. 

12809  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: September 23, 2014, 03:48:52 AM
Just had a vision, can you picture all those eco green logos, associating leaves with the reduction of CO2?

Fucking unbelievable, this is so wrong. Doesn't the photosynthesis suggest exactly the opposite? Plants consume CO2 and eject O2. Hence, if you want a greener world (fight massive deforestation), with lovely trees and fresh air, you fucking bomb the atmosphere with CO2!

Damn im so pissed with those climate marches. Some of my friends went there and are fucking retarded about it. They are so happy to pay some more ecotaxes and carbontaxes.
....
Check out Dyson, either books or on youtube.  He's argued add biomass, problem solved.

12810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That C.I.A. and the Islamic State Are United on: September 23, 2014, 03:28:36 AM
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...
The prevalence of the theory in the streets underscored the deep suspicions of the American military’s return to Iraq more than a decade after its invasion, in 2003. The casual endorsement by a senior official, though, was also a pointed reminder that the new Iraqi government may be an awkward partner for the American-led campaign to drive out the extremists.

The Islamic State, also known by the acronym ISIS, has conquered many of the predominantly Sunni Muslim provinces in Iraq’s northeast, aided by the alienation of many residents to the Shiite-dominated government of the former prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. President Obama has insisted repeatedly that American military action against the Islamic State depended on the installation of a more inclusive government in Baghdad, but he moved ahead before it was complete.

The Parliament has not yet confirmed nominees for the crucial posts of interior or defense minister, in part because of discord between Sunni and Shiite factions, and the Iraqi news media has reported that it may be more than a month before the posts are filled.

The demonstration on Saturday was the latest in a series of signals from Shiite leaders or militias, especially those considered close to Iran, warning the United States not to put its soldiers back on the ground. Mr. Obama has pledged not to send combat troops, but he seems to have convinced few Iraqis. “We don’t trust him,” said Raad Hatem, 40.
...

More...http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/world/middleeast/suspicions-run-deep-in-iraq-that-cia-and-the-islamic-state-are-united.html?_r=0
bolded above...

Well they got that right.
12811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is obama purging generals from the military? on: September 22, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/130802
A Crisis of Military Leadership

The number of generals either drummed out of the service or forced into early retirement since Obama took office is growing.......
...you mean they had the audacity to beat him at golf?

Why those cruel and heartless bastards!

What do they think they are doing, not being properly empathetic and sensitive to the feelings of a child?  He might throw tantrums. 

I'm shocked at this, shocked! 
12812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nvidia proves that the lunar landings happened on: September 22, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
I remember hearing something about this like 20some years ago as to whether the moon landing was real or a hoax. For those that have extra time on their hands and want to take a deep peek in the rabbit hole, have a crack:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories
I have 4 original 1970 newspapers from the first lunar landing.  Interestingly, the pictures on the front page are actually artists renditions.  The reason, if you think about it, is that they brought back high resolution camera film and movie footage.  But they could not transmit it, except at the then-current-technology 320x240 dot analog color and black/white formats.  This would not print on newspaper, therefore they had artists do the work.

Another refutation is the actual imagrery of the Apollo landing sites, the tracks of the rovers, and the footsteps of the astronauts by the LRO in 2009-2010.  These are totally amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTeM4ZqEKR4

More incredible than the footsteps on the moon from this database is the fact that the entire moon was imaged and the database is publicly available.

That's the entire moon with every rock visible down to about the size of a football.....

Lot of interesting stuff up there...here, for example, you see a couple hundred million years slow trek down a hillside of some boulders...the small ones are about three to six feet across, the large on in the middle about 15 feet across.

http://www.lroc.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/M134991788RE.boulders.1k.ano.png
12813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nvidia proves that the lunar landings happened on: September 22, 2014, 06:13:36 PM

Quite interesting, but the fundamental evidence that the moon landings happened is the rocks they brought back.  Which are very, very unEarthlink on examination.  The Moon never had running water, so it's rocks have no trace of sedimentary material.  And they are all coated with vapor deposited metals - iron, titanium, aluminum from the vaporized metallic meteors that barreled into the moon. These on Earth would be oxidized and vanish into powder within a very short time, often just a few years.  On the moon a rock or particle of dust retains these coatings for a billion years.  Also, the fine dust on the surface has on microscopic examination razor sharp edges.  Sand and dust on Earth has rounded edges.

Short story, alien rocks that could not have been formed on Earth came from the Moon.

Or from a nazi-nasa fake moon rock factory. Wink

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

NO.  That's what I'm saying.  It may be hard to grasp this but we really are talking about rocks that can not have been made on Earth.   There really, really is such a thing as "alien" and although we have not seen it with life forms (probably) we certainly can identify rocks from both Mars and the Moon.

Researchers Amsterdam's Free University were able to tell at a glance that the rock was unlikely to be from the moon, a conclusion that was borne out by tests.
12814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Islam Quiz: How much do you know? on: September 22, 2014, 05:02:28 PM
A really comprehensive test of 'basics' of Islam would be edifying and useful for understanding current conflicts - such an exercise wouldn't necessarily involve knowing Quran chapter (sura) and verse, but would consist of defining fundamental doctrinal concepts, how Islam differs from other Abrahamic faiths, key dates/events in Mohammed's life, vocabulary/terms, and historical milestones, demographics.
Maybe I'll devise one.

A good place to start would be

"Was Sayyad Qutb someone whose teachings should be followed?"

Then if the answer is Yes, jail them.

That about sums up what anyone actually needs to know about Islam.
12815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nvidia proves that the lunar landings happened on: September 22, 2014, 04:24:04 PM

Quite interesting, but the fundamental evidence that the moon landings happened is the rocks they brought back.  Which are very, very unEarthlink on examination.  The Moon never had running water, so it's rocks have no trace of sedimentary material.  And they are all coated with vapor deposited metals - iron, titanium, aluminum from the vaporized metallic meteors that barreled into the moon. These on Earth would be oxidized and vanish into powder within a very short time, often just a few years.  On the moon a rock or particle of dust retains these coatings for a billion years.  Also, the fine dust on the surface has on microscopic examination razor sharp edges.  Sand and dust on Earth has rounded edges.

Short story, alien rocks that could not have been formed on Earth came from the Moon.
12816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 21, 2014, 10:54:22 PM
Islamic states still execute homosexuals, stone women for adultery, treat a woman as an adulterer if she is not a virgin when wed, execute people for apostasy, have honor killings, female genital mutilation, ban women from driving, ban women from schooling.

Didn't you READ what the prior poster said?

Muslims have gotten a bad name especially since 9/11  It's only the minority and not necessarily true for everyone. But think about it, their will always be the crazy radicals in any group of people


The difference between the above 2 points of view is vast.
12817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Teen in Pennsylvania sentenced to two years for deep-throating Jesus on: September 21, 2014, 02:33:24 PM
its like if you own a tv show or network or bank, you're off the hook for saying whatever you want (south park) but if you're one guy having a little fun and you piss off the wrong judge, 'they throw the book at you'.

The DA involved with this case is named Bill Higgins.  If you are interested in getting involved with this case and standing up for your right for free speech then vocalize it on his facebook page.


OR Feel free to reach out to him directly here: http://www.bedfordcountypa.org/District_Attorney.html


Petitions against a DA or a judge will almost never end in the way that the masses wish. The DA is to act when he is made aware of someone breaking the law (and has sufficient evidence to convict as such) and it is the judge's job to enforce the law as written. If you do not agree with a specific law then you would contact the legislature to try to get the law changed.

What law was being enforced in this case? I saw the DA's Facebook page, full of conservative Bush worship
Minor correction, there was never anything remotely resembling "Bush worship" or "conservative Bush worship".

Ridiculous worship of a political figure in recent years has been solely the property of Hussain Obama, and solely the domain of the Left.  A lot of them are now regretting their ridiculous behavior.
12818  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: September 21, 2014, 02:30:11 PM
If somebody produces those emails he's a hero.  However within the year he will commit the usual government related "suicide".
Whistle-blowers are generally protected under federal law. Therefore it would be illegal for anyone to retaliate against them for producing evidence against the IRS. Also once the evidence is released the "damage" would have been done to the Obama administration and testimony would generally not be necessary, so faking his suicide would do little for president Obama

We could also say something like "The IRS does not GENERALLY lose emails and have important computers crash" but drawing a conclusion from that would be ridiculous, since the case involves purposeful breaking of the rules and the law.

Once a country's federal level Justic Dept.  is corrupted all bets are off.
12819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: September 20, 2014, 10:49:50 PM
"Climate believers" memes go!
Why should you insult the pious and devout acolytes of climate?   Fervent believers whose only goal is to save the world, met on all sides by ridicule, distrust and the forces of evil truth, their only salvation is the politicians they can buy off and the scientists they can threaten with fires of Damnation.

Just think, the next time you look into the glassy, staring eyes of the devout climatolobotomized...think of the pure, naive desire to Do Good they dwell on.

I hope that you will reconsider your Exxon inspired devilish plan and also See the Light.  <<hehehheha...>>
12820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money on: September 20, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
The best advise is to simply decline to answer any questions, and to keep anything that you would not want a police officer to see in plain view (including money). If they ask to search your car then you should withhold consent and this should stop the vast majority of issues.

There was an article in the Washington Post this week that talked about how much money local governments were making from these kinds of warrant-less seizures .

Declining to answer any questions will immediately set off a red flag that your trying to hide something.  That is how a cop would likely try to interpret it if you ask me.  I don't like how paranoid many cops are, they will look for anything they feel is not normal to harass you.  Profiling people and treating them like criminals before proven guilty is not their job, it is to protect and serve.  If their being trained to act this way something needs to change and that change needs to come from the higher ranking officers.

  If a cop shoots and kills someone the immediate reaction is the victim must have done something to deserve it.  What kind of message is that going to send to cops?  It's that they literally have a license to kill, which is beyond terrifying for anybody with a pulse.
History shows us that people in positions of authority are in the best position to do the most damage yet our society tends to accept all the corruptions and power grabbing.  It won't keep us safe that is for sure so people better get used to being walked on and treated like crap by a bunch of paranoid poorly trained "peace officers".

I disagree. A cop is a public servant and should be spoken to as such. Politely and respectfully decline to be treated like a child/criminal and do not consent to be questioned, searched or give away your rights in any other way.

Of course if you get all angry and defensive, you are acting like you have something to hide and they will react accordingly.

What's important isn't what you say, but how you say it.
I agree with your disagreement. The police do not have the right to demand to question you. They have the right to question you however you do not need to answer any questions if you do not wish to do so (they have freedom of speech just as you do). If you do not want to answer their questions then you should polity but firmly advise that you do not want to answer any questions. Unless they can see evidence of a crime in plain view (or if there is a warrant outstanding for you) then they have no right to search your nor your property (including your car). Again they do have the right to ask (remember they have free speech), but you should decline as this is your right.
<<whispered hoarsely>>

Officer .. <<grabs note book and pen>>

<<writes>>

"sorry I can't talk hardly at all picked up something yesterday really bad..."

<<another fit of coughing,,, in his direction, write>>

"just headed to the doc...laryngitis I guess hopefully not tb like my aunt has...how can I help you>>

<<more coughing in direction of notebook right before handing it to him>>

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