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12981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TX Governor Rick Perry Turns Himself In on: August 20, 2014, 12:46:56 AM
Not only is this guy an idiot and a racist. Apparently, he is corrupt as shit too.

This guy was trying to be president  Roll Eyes

Dirty politicians. Should be jailed for the long term but he'll probably get a slap on the wrist.

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The Republican has called the case a political ploy, and many top Republicans are supporting him.

Still resistant to the end.

Rick "Oops" Perry is an idiot, but these charges are BS.  Even Axelrod said so.

At least Perry gave up drinking, unlike the out-of-control sow of an Austin DA who trumped them up.

yeah i agree, he's pretty corrupt but this specific charge doesn't hold. he's on the palin/bachmann tier of dumb and uneducated politicians.

he's leaving office in january anyways.. so if this is a political game, why are they doing it now? it's not like he's a serious threat to become president. hell, i'm sure democrats would love for him to come out of the primaries.
Why are they doing it now?  To show what kind of game they are playing.

Rick Perry is an idiot?  Why that certainly explains why he agreed with the decision that Texas should have NO RULES on bitcoin.  No MTL, no MEL.  Of course, that's idiotic.  Texas should be like New York.

How many on this forum are calling the idiot governor of New York an idiot?

Wow....

he's lax on bitcoins, so that makes him not an idiot? wtf? nevermind all the repeated gaffes he makes, nevermind that he has to start wearing glasses to appear less dumb.

here's a link wit the dumb stuff he's said. and yes, i know you're going to blame it on the liberal media bias.. but it takes two to tango. if you say stupid shit, the media will run with it. and if the media runs with it, does that mean you never said stupid shit?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Rick-Perry/a/Rick-Perry-Quotes.htm
No, it's not necessary to blame it on liberal media bias.  I really don't see that it matters if someone can find dumb out of context quotes someone supposedly said.  Have fun with that stupid game.  By the way, gaffes make you stupid?  HELLLLLOOOOO, Biden.

Texas is by all accounts, a well ran and well managed state, and Perry has a fair part of that to his credit.  To the extent that any governor does.  That's just the way it is.    Texas leads the nation in job creation.  Legalizing bitcoin is a part of that general philosophy.  

Meanwhile, fascist clowns run places like New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts.  

You can come down here to trade your bitcoins, fellas.  Down to Rick Perry Territory.  

We'll buy the beer.
LOL....
12982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 20, 2014, 12:41:06 AM
Actually the main and important point is that it is a right in the USA and a privilege in most other countries.
And interestingly, now with Bitcoin the question arises whether fiat currency is a right of the State, or may it be a privilege.

And whether the people have a right to their own currency, or is it just a privilege.

This may prove to be equally important as the 1st and 2nd Amendments in it's effects on nations across the world.
Interesting point.

And on the gun issue: The coming 3D printers will make it very easy for anyone anywhere to manufacture a gun, in the future it might be the ammo that is restricted instead.

At some point someone will invent ammo that can be 3D printed. And as long as that technological leap will be made, I hope the inventor can also make the 3D printed bullets render people unconscious Star Trek style, but never be able to kill them.
Well, or equally likely, alternative means of high energy projectile launching.

I'd personally like a 3d printed hypervelocity railgun pistol that shot sewing needles.   For a rifle, a compressed air operated 800 foot per second beer can launcher would do nicely.  Not talking empty cans here...
12983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TX Governor Rick Perry Turns Himself In on: August 20, 2014, 12:33:23 AM
Not only is this guy an idiot and a racist. Apparently, he is corrupt as shit too.

This guy was trying to be president  Roll Eyes

Dirty politicians. Should be jailed for the long term but he'll probably get a slap on the wrist.

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The Republican has called the case a political ploy, and many top Republicans are supporting him.

Still resistant to the end.

Rick "Oops" Perry is an idiot, but these charges are BS.  Even Axelrod said so.

At least Perry gave up drinking, unlike the out-of-control sow of an Austin DA who trumped them up.

yeah i agree, he's pretty corrupt but this specific charge doesn't hold. he's on the palin/bachmann tier of dumb and uneducated politicians.

he's leaving office in january anyways.. so if this is a political game, why are they doing it now? it's not like he's a serious threat to become president. hell, i'm sure democrats would love for him to come out of the primaries.
Why are they doing it now?  To show what kind of game they are playing.

Rick Perry is an idiot?  Why that certainly explains why he agreed with the decision that Texas should have NO RULES on bitcoin.  No MTL, no MEL.  Of course, that's idiotic.  Texas should be like New York.

How many on this forum are calling the idiot governor of New York an idiot?

Wow....
12984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 19, 2014, 09:57:14 PM
Actually the main and important point is that it is a right in the USA and a privilege in most other countries.
And interestingly, now with Bitcoin the question arises whether fiat currency is a right of the State, or may it be a privilege.

And whether the people have a right to their own currency, or is it just a privilege.

This may prove to be equally important as the 1st and 2nd Amendments in it's effects on nations across the world.
12985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: August 19, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
Three dead birds per hour?
In the Mojave Desert?
Bullshit.


Ok.  Cheesy


Well, it certainly doesn't fit the desired narrative.

Now run along and change your facts please.
12986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 19, 2014, 09:31:47 PM
Taking down the government?
That's what elections are for.
But obviously many people here don't believe in democracy.
You think you can win an armed fight against the majority of the people?
No.  And yes, that's what elections are for.

I'm just noting what the actual intent of the 2nd amendment is.  You can say  it's crazy, or that it isn't relevant today.  Whatever.  Doesn't matter what you think, really.

The second amendment is so that you (the majority) can take down a corrupt government, i.e. a government that does no longer adhere to the constitution. Not for a small minority to stage a coup d'etat.
We could argue the details, yes.  But the main and important point is that the right to own weapons in the USA is not related to a right to target shooting, or a right to hunt animals.

It is a right to own weapons for defense of oneself, one's family, and one's society, up to and including against a government which has turned gangster.  And this right is not subjugated or limited by any stated democratic process such as "elections."
12987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is people against military actions against ISIS/IS? on: August 19, 2014, 08:22:14 PM
Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

People from a time when America wasn't harassing the entire planet.  They don't want to fight endless wars.. although cpt Obama with his war on everything under the sun doesn't like that idea.

War is horrible and sucks.. But when people are being slaughterd like that they are now, then its the WORLDS DUTY to get into the conflict and stop the tyrans who are killing inocent people.

Like Kuwait, Vietnam, Japan, the Nazies and now ISIS and many other terrorist groups.
What I'd do would be to send some lightweight drones in and also ground stealth operatives, and  photograph the ISIS.  Then I'd put a bounty on their heads, every last one of them.

That'd be for starters.

Do not be fooled into thinking air support will knock these guys out.
12988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
I wonder to what extent you and I would agree as to the positives and negatives of the PPACA. My dream ultimately is socialized medicine. In certain respects, PPACA advances toward that incrementally, but for the most part it goes in the opposite direction. Within the framework of our mixed economy, I'm not sure how much closer we could get to socialized medicine, particularly with (1) the firmly-established allowance for states to opt out of Medicaid expansion, and (2) so many ultraconservatives in leadership positions, making decisions based on their ideology rather than concern for the health of their constituents. (There are other roadblocks but that part really irks the shit out of me.)
I tend to believe in a modified single payer system similar to Canadian and British models, with whatever tweaks would be needed to make it work a little better, while allowing a robust private system for those who wish to pay a premium while getting a tax break. I find a strong private system is necessary to bring forward the advances. They don't really happen as much in a strictly government system. It would be two tiered, but life is like that. As long as the normal system is good, it should work out.
Except that the US doesn't have the money to run the ACA.  It was initially "funded by figuring ten years of tax increases for four years of ACA".  Then the list of exemptions (eg, government payouts) continued to increase.   And it's not through increasing, because the goal is political - to create a class dependent on the government for basic health care.

Meanwhile the US runs a trillion a year deficit.  You can prattle on all you want about lofty progressive expansions of government service, and of course the vision in your head is superior to whatever you are criticizing.  But in the real world, any implemented plan is subjected to corrosive and corrupt influences during its implementation, so your plan, actually is no better or far worse.  The deficit and the budget are what will determine outcomes.
12989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 19, 2014, 05:12:17 PM
The statistics on gun deaths in Europe are not really different than in the U.S. We do have a lot of shootings every year, but in Europe the whole continent kills each other off every once and a while. Mostly unarmed people are rounded up and executed in the millions. That is supposed to be a better system? It would could not happen that way here.
Well, they won't try that on the Swiss, either.

Odd (not REALLY) how Europeans would like to talk us into disarming the citizens of the US.  But they never say that about the Swiss.
Yeah. And the Swiss seem to always avoid the wars. When I was in Croatia during the civil war the Serbs were slaughtering the Croats. Once the guns arrived for the Croats the fighting ground to a near halt.  It is more dangerous when only one side is armed, IMO.
Yep.

It's just not fair, an armed robber should have to worry about the homeowner having assault rifles.
12990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is people against military actions against ISIS/IS? on: August 19, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
ISIS punish civilian people without trial
ISIS force people to change religion or pay taxed to them
ISIS killing and tortured their own people in the name of religion ........
ETC.

im really agree with military actions for them !
i hope US send 7th fleet to crush them once for all
Oh yeah, that's wonderful.  Give the mumbling crazies the Great Satan to rant against once more.
12991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
As for the DV component of the hardship waiver, we're talking about a life event with far-reaching implications, and it is noble and keenly perceptive of the lawmakers to have included this exemption. DV incidents would be indicative of a high level of financial uncertainty, particularly when you consider the likelihood that the person making use of this hardship is financially dependent on the person who just went to jail for beating her up.
I'm certainly glad that our lawmakers are noble and keenly perceptive.

Wait a minute....

Actually I like #8.  "You had medical expenses you couldn't pay."

So if you don't pay medical bills, then you don't have to pay them.

Check - mate.
12992  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 19, 2014, 03:50:42 PM
The statistics on gun deaths in Europe are not really different than in the U.S. We do have a lot of shootings every year, but in Europe the whole continent kills each other off every once and a while. Mostly unarmed people are rounded up and executed in the millions. That is supposed to be a better system? It would could not happen that way here.
Well, they won't try that on the Swiss, either.

Odd (not REALLY) how Europeans would like to talk us into disarming the citizens of the US.  But they never say that about the Swiss.
12993  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Health care: $10,169 for a blood test? on: August 19, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
Im glad I live in a country like Denmark..

If you get hurt, you either call 112 or you go to the ER yourself..
You get fixed up, and if you need meds for it then you can choose to get something for free, or some premium meds that cost a little..

You dont need a medical insurance like the US.. You are born with one, and you dont pay for it..

Its basicly free for everyone in Denmark.

(Ofc its paid through tax.. But we dont pay tax and get 1000$+ bills from a hospital)

Yeah, it's really amusing that someone in the USA would pop up and say "I'm Soooooo glad we have the Affordable Heath Care Act, because I would never have been able to pay the $10,000 for a blood test!"

Note the underlying problems are not touched, nor talked about.  But the political "solution" that allows massive graft and corruption, layered on top of a dysfunction insurance driven non free market system, is advocated.

Well, what should we expect?  Should we expect them to push for a system that didn't allow for graft and corruption?
12994  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 19, 2014, 03:02:11 PM
Taking down the government?
That's what elections are for.
But obviously many people here don't believe in democracy.
You think you can win an armed fight against the majority of the people?
No.  And yes, that's what elections are for.

I'm just noting what the actual intent of the 2nd amendment is.  You can say  it's crazy, or that it isn't relevant today.  Whatever.  Doesn't matter what you think, really.
12995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
The domestic violence one is puzzling as well. No doubt, domestic violence is a serious issue and its victims deserve the utmost protection and the best help available, but I am struggling to see why that qualifies you for a federal tax exemption.
Because it's a matter of buying your vote, silly.
12996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The New Black Panthers and Communists Hijack Ferguson Protests on: August 19, 2014, 02:08:02 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule

It's interesting to see how this is playing out; I've considered this term "grouping through category" (group being participatory, category being non-participatory) which describes an individual who takes qualities of their being that differ from others--sex, race, political leaning, religion, and nationality being the top ones ATM--and assigns themselves to a group they feel they must involuntarily participate in, and must protect themselves from groups they believe other people participate in.  ....

Divide and conquer is indeed the base strategy here.  If Obama/liberal democrats can keep the opposition divided into warring camps, they can win elections even against the popular sentiment.

What?  No way I'd side with a bunch of those religious fundamentalists!
Me?  No way you'd see me voting with those whites!
I'm a woman!  I'm voting with women, not with those cranks who would control our bodies!

These are all manufactured controversies. 
12997  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 18, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
I dont understand why you need to own a rifle if you arent a hunter.

I could understand a 9mm Semi automatic pistol in the drawer next to your bed if a home invasion should ever happen..
But the need for having rifles, smgs, and other weapons is just insanity.

12.000+ people gets shot in the US alone by fire arms.
That is insanely high..

Why cant you just put down the weapons and be like other nations..?

You cant own any kind of firearms in EU. Only if you have a hunting license, and a specific license for your hunting weapon..
Any person in the US can get a gun in less than 2 hours.


It's weird to me that people always make an exception for owning a gun as long as you are using it to kill animals. I target shoot. If I duct tape a bunny to the target, would that make it ok?
As for the people who get shot each year, you do realize those are criminals doing the shooting. And the victims are normally other criminals. This is an argument for having guns, right?
Lastly, your assertion that "Any person in the US can get a gun in less than 2 hours." is incorrect. There are many, many restrictions on firearms in the U.S. I bought a pistol last week and it took about a week to do the process of background checks and shipping to a FFL. It also involved a handfull of government agencies.


You see, when you say "Why cant you just put down the weapons and be like other nations..?"....

What happens here is that people don't believe the politician who encourages them in that direction, and they do the exact opposite.  There are, by the way, a huge number of liberal Democrats with lots of guns.  It's not just conservative thinkers. 
+1 I'm not a republican. But I am an American and we don't believe in an armed state ruling an unarmed populace. The state is subservient to our will and we must be able to fight it if necessary. That sounds dramatic, but one need look no further than the news to see why we like it that way. 
I mention this because a lot of people around the world have some mistaken ideas about the average US guy and guns.

The 2nd amendment in the US really is about taking down the government if need be.  LOL...  or the right of the citizens to forcibly, if need be, resist bad things by the government.....

I'm of the opinion that's "a good thing".  Might vary by country and area and history, whether it is a good thing or a bad thing.

IMHO:  Iraq and places like that, where terrorists run amok, everyone should be ARMED.

12998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Health care: $10,169 for a blood test? on: August 18, 2014, 06:40:38 PM
Again, these RWNJ's seem to have little respect for a human life.

My friend is alive because of ACA - allowing her t obtain insurance coverage in spite of preexisting conditions and testing proved her cancer and now she's finished 6 chemo treatments.  Wednesday her doc will view her scans and tell her she's ok - or that she needs more chemo.

I am hoping for the best, of course. 

Beside, one cannot have an intelligent conversation about ACA with RWNJ's - they are illogical and too political to be honest.
Actually, these kinds of issues, such as $10k for a blood test, validate a lot of the arguments that the anti-ACA people have been saying all along.

You don't take a broke system, then shove lots of government money at it.

You fix the system.
12999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Health care: $10,169 for a blood test? on: August 18, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
These are hospitals clearly taking advantage. A lot of people don't have the luxury of shopping around for the best price hospital or what if it's an emergency?

It's unfortunate how for-profit these medical institutions are instead of helping those that are sick/injured.

One effect of socialism on hospitals is to take institutions that were once do-gooder, non profit institutions and turn them into a machine that sucks on a government tit, while overcharging the paying customer.

Notice there's no consumer protection agency rooting for the customer of PRIVATELY PAID health care costs.
13000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We do not have a gun culture problem, we have a culture problem. on: August 18, 2014, 03:52:42 PM


You cant own any kind of firearms in EU. Only if you have a hunting license, and a specific license for your hunting weapon..
Any person in the US can get a gun in less than 2 hours.



That's incorrect, there is no common EU gun law. In Sweden for example there are three different kinds of gun licenses. Hunting, target shooting and protection. License for protection being the hardest to get, and hunting the easiest, although target shooting license for a shotgun, i.e. skeet shooting, is not hard to get. I have seven different firearms, three for hunting and the rest for target shooting, ranging from one "assault weapon" (FN FNC/Ak 5) to a Glock 22 with an additional 9 mm barrel and a revolver cal 22 lr for plinking. There are also the possibility to buy a gun manufactured before 1890 and not made for "unit cartridges".(Problably not the right word in english, but it has to be the percussion kind if you know what i mean). These guns  require no license at all and are just as deadly.
The Texas rule on that is mft before 1895, which generally means cartridges, but black powder loads in those cartridges.    And, correct, these are "not firearms."

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