About time.

This, of course, can only be good for everything and everyone that's on the up and up, and good riddance to everything and everyone that's not (we can hope anyway  )

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-DGB

I've only got good things to say about them.

No problem here.

I remember when the decision was made to go multi-algo. That was THE game changer in my opinion and marked a clear before and after point in the history of DigiByte signaling when DGB went from being just another alt-coin to being a viable long term cryptographic digital currency with a future.

Well done esotericizm.

Here's the link again to keep it up front . . . playing my small part in reposting, resending, and retweeting, reopening, etc.  

http://dgbmap.com/



Edit: Changed my signature line.  


Edit2: Can you configure it to load with the US and Europe as the defaults?

Nice one! 

      

I agree that the explanation is not simple, nor is education on the subject, not by any stretch of the imagination, but, ultimately, it is impossible to get away from since it is the central and defining aspect of what a cryptographic digital currency is. For as much as we'd like it to be easily understood, even to the point of trying to simplify so much that we almost end up ignoring it, it just isn't possible.

That shouldn't be seen as a negative however, rather it should be seen as one of the cryptographic digital currency's strongest points: it's the very nature, the extremely complicated nature, of the cryptographic digital currency that makes it the most secure and unbreakable digital currency it is.

By definition it is complicated. If it weren't, then this would be a non-starter to begin with. We can't get away from that fact, and, if we want it to succeed, we can't get away from explaining it either.

So why not get it up front and center so that people will at least have something to work with when trying to understand it? By simply googling "cryptographic", the interested person 'stumbles across' a wealth of information that serves as a wonderful starting point. On the other hand, if the defining characteristic of DGB is hidden, their task becomes all that more difficult.

"Digital currency" is already understood by most. It's a fairly easy concept to grasp, but so is its inherent vulnerability. Helping people then to understand cryptography, and the defining role it plays in cryptographic digital currencies, is the next logical step in demonstrating what the critical addition of cryptography means for a digital currency and why it's the game changer that turns a digital currency into a real means of exchange.

As you know, I've made a point of suggesting a rethinking of our naming conventions, etc., a few times here in this thread. As you also know from reading this thread, my suggestion for a standardized descriptive title for serious crytocoins, that is for those that are really treated with businesslike professionalism and not as two bit teenager huckster funny money, would be "Cryptographic Digital Currency".

I've yet to see anyone explain why we shouldn't call DigiByte a "Cryptographic Digital Currency", nor have I seen a name that better describes what it is.

What is the difference between BTC & DGB and a simple digital currency? The Cryptographic element, of course.

What makes BTC & DGB secure ways of storing wealth and making payments? The Cryptographic element, of course.

What makes BTC & DBG real and tangible units of value? The Cryptographic element, of course.


I think we need to seriously debate our nomenclature.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_currency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency

Unfortunately, "cryptocurrency" has earned itself a very bad reputation and negative connotation. Nevertheless, every cloud has its silver lining, and cryptographic digital currency just might be a much better name anyway since it positively builds upon a previously understood and positively accepted concept that has been improved upon, made better, and, ultimately, brought to fruition. The casual reader might even see digital currency and cryptocurrency as separate and independent things, and incorrectly so. One is a positive building upon the former, the final extension of what was necessary to make "digital" money "real" money, and, as such, cannot be simply referred to as "digital", but must have the descriptive qualifier to set it apart and clearly show the world what it is (and what it's not). It's an impossible to counterfeit digital currency made secure by means of a cryptographic protocol! What's the best name for it?

Jared,

I think you should seriously deal with this matter, first by contacting the moderator who deleted the post (made in your own thread by the way), and then by moving up the hierarchical ladder if the response you get is not satisfactory.

Deleting that post is completely uncalled for and unacceptable, and you should really pursue the issue.

Good luck with it.

HR

Can you post a link to the official announcement about the Dogecoin dev leaving?

TIA

Agreed. It's not easy, and there are many hurdles to get past. However, the big stumbling block as I see it is basic understanding. The one thing that 95% of the people interviewed in the video have in common is their complete lack of knowledge regarding the subject - so much so that they freely and uninhibitedly admit it humorously and almost without regret, as though it doesn't matter anyway. Until that changes, the hurdles and hoops won't even come into play.

I know people, lots of people, who work in IT that still don't know much about Cryptographic Digital Currencies. That's another place where we need to begin to educate. It's a logical place since Cryptographic Digital Currencies are so closely linked to information technology. As we see in that video, to a non-tech person, Cryptographic Digital Currencies are extremely intangible, almost imaginary, while to the computer literate person that changes fast and radically. If US bankers are looking at the cryptographic blockchain as a viable model, you can bet computer literate folks will see the "tangibility" of Cryptographic Digital Currencies just as fast. Gamers represent a huge segment of computer literate people, but they're not alone by any means. How many hundreds of thousands of network administrators are there in the world who still haven't heard of DigiByte? . . . there are many highly developed and prestigious forums that those people use. Hint, hint, hint. 

It's literally going to be years before the average man in the street gets involved in Cryptographic Digital Currencies (and until we start getting serious about our naming conventions, descriptions and definitions, we won't be helping them out at all).

That's why I say over and over again that the #1 priority right now is determining a short to medium term target audience, and that audience, in my opinion, is computer literate people, starting with gamers (and I know that DGB is working in that direction - this is not a criticism, it's just another reiteration of what I think is fundamental to DGB short to medium term strategic outreach).

Great video BTW!

Turned on my Tab 3 and got a program automatically updated message.  


Also, some price stuff I saw on twitter:
https://twitter.com/Alttrade/status/591481181125808128
https://twitter.com/Alttrade/status/591490477062361088

Don't worry about "them". Every time you mention "them", you are giving "them" free publicity. My best advice is to focus exclusively on DigiByte (let other people give us free publicity, and not the other way around).

DigiByte IS the competition! It's not our job to worry about other coins, rather it's their job to worry about us!

Don't even give them the satisfaction of bashing!

Certain things like giveaways, tipping, blatent self-promotion (not to mention scamming and fraud of course) are not permitted, and with good reason - otherwise this could turn into another reddit. Any post that I've ever had deleted has always be sent to me via PM, and you should see the same thing too so that there's no question about what was deleted. You can always directly contact the mods to ask for clarification.

They are fairly strict with their rules (it's their board and right to do so), witness this seemingly inoffensive DGB plug (and I considered it to be appropriately placed) in another coin's thread that was deleted.

   Oh but I am interested in price! It's just that I am more often wrong than right - witness the latest example: http://asistec-ti.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=123   

That's a thread I started a while back, so you can't accuse of not being equal opportunity.   

And thanks for the very flattering comments, but tech guru? I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps a googling fool might be more accurate.     

(Another cheap trademark/brand name/name-become-a-verb plug there.  )

I agree. Make sure you keep posting here as well . . . even if it's double posting. The exposure we get here is priceless.

And I sign off with that, yet another, tongue-in-cheek slogan reference.

I agree. So true.

Nicely dissected and summarized, and all stemming from the 1000 DGB to 1 BTC founding idea. Fantastic consistent and steady professional development of cutting edge technology. Over and over again. They're like the Energizer Bunny: it just keeps on running. Or would that be the Timex watch that just kept on ticking? 


@all you Dutchmen out there,

You guys are tops! I vote for the Netherlands for the first European DigiByte office. Not to say that we don't have great participation from other European countries, we do. (In fact, have you noticed that the majority of contributors/investors/miners here on this board are European?) And we've got great representation from Down Under too, but the best are the Dutch. No doubt. One vote here for an office in Amsterdam!

Anything cheap in the financial district? (That's a joke.       )

Lots of good comments DPLDCC, but I only have time to address what I consider to be the most important, "the crux of the matter" as it were.

It's not necessarily a slogan that is specifically designed for DigiTip, in fact, it's designed to be a more universal DigiByte slogan that begins with its use in the DigiTip arena. "Likes" are used everywhere now. They have become a universal online feature, and I think we'd be hard pressed to find an internet user who couldn't tell you what a "Like" is. The connection is obvious, global, and universal: used in the same context, as an equivalent possibility, or even better possibility (as is subliminally suggested), it is at very least a synonym. Therefore, if you know what "Like" means (in internet terms), then you will know what "DigiByte" means in that same context, and as people investigate and learn more about this "DigiByte" thing they've just discovered, they will find out that it actually means "Like" + "Put-Your-Money-Where-Your-Mouth-Is". That in turn leads to a longer term conscious association of DigiByte with spendable money, first online, and ultimately, someday, in the brick and mortar setting.

BTW, there is no question mark at the end of the phrase. It's an exclamation mark!

Wish I had more time right now, but those are my most important thoughts at the moment anyway, and something is better than nothing. Looking forward to seeing everyone else's comments latter on when I at least have some time to read. ;-)


DigiByte: "I'm happily rewarding you financially for a job well done". (Starts with DigiTip, and theoretically never ends.)


Wish you hadn't deleted your suggestion by the way.  




Edit: Don't forget that this is even more ambitious than branding. Branding is what DigiByte has been doing and does every day. This goes so far as to suggest the opportunity to turn DigiByte into a verb. Remember this article posted with my original post? Google This: What It Means When A Brand Becomes A Verb


digibyte
verb, di·gi·bite
di·gi·bited di·gi·biting

Definition of DIGIBYTE
transitive verb
:  to financially reward a job well done using DigiBytes


:-)