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1321  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining Recommendations? on: October 02, 2016, 04:01:27 AM
Well today make investing on cloud mining is not worth and profitable because of high cost and increase difficulty of mining every days always growing up, but if you want try making investment into cloud mining service. You can try into hashnest.com of course with low amount capital and make sure for return of investment, before make investing again. Good luck
1322  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 02, 2016, 03:43:27 AM
Trading is indeed an unpredictable job if it wouldn't be then it would be easy and everyone and their mothers would be making profit.
Because it's unpredictable you need to be as good as you can to reduce the chance of failing that's why it's such a difficult activity.

The trading is not profitable for most people. It is only for the professionals to take money from the unprofessionals.

I would like  to disagree on some  point,  professionals and  unprofessionals seem dont have any connection  regarding  on trading and you wont  need to  be  professional to take  advantage  on trading as you could  possibly  engage to it  as long you are  knowledgeable  to it and  know analytical skills.

I think he meant professional traders vs part time or untrained traders. Those who practice trading for a living vs those who just started trading. Those professional traders have a better perspective and have more resources on trading so they can eat you alive on trading.
Yes you are right, although trading is unpredictable job but there are some people who can eat and alive on trading, they have system trading ( the ways for trading that give profit constantly via trading) but doesn't mean they never get lost, but amount of lost more low than amount of profit in every trading.
1323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Millions of People Use Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 03:19:10 AM
Actually i don't have any data of users on my country and i don't have any proof, but if i saw at market place of bitcoin.co.id (Indonesian market) there are about 300 up to 400 users who were active on the market daily, and it is just small amount of comunity in my opinion. But it will growing up step by step in the future. And i have choosed about less than 2.000.000 users in the world.
Its big problem no one have real data about users of bitcoins in many countries like Indonesia, Philippine and India which are big markets but very small trades its need time may be in near future some one try to manage this all  and we can say exact figure about this in my view we have over 2500000 members in this community
I just don't have valid data on Indonesia users, and i just share about the users who always be online on bitcoin.co.id daily, the most is big market place at indonesia , and i think there are not many people who has valid data about users of bitcoins. Do you have any data? Show to here it will become a proof for your claim.
1324  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 02:38:41 AM
If i make investment for long term i will choose into gold because the price is more stable and every year gold's price always going up although it is just a little. But if i have a lot of capital and make profit from trading, i will choose bitcoin because bitcoin's price has high fluctuation. So depend on you what will You doing.
1325  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Easiest way to earn bitcoin on: October 02, 2016, 01:57:52 AM
I think the easiest way to earn bitcoins is through signature campaign because the risk percentage of it is lower compared to others just choose a campaign that has a proof of payment.  Also providing services to others is great and you can earn a decent amount of money from it.
yeah I think the signature campaign is the easiest method to get bitcoin, but at least you should have a high rank so that you can benefit that valuable

No doubt signature campaign is the easiest way of earning bitcoin.But it's always not available for everyone. First of all you need to get a high rank account and good quality post.With these you can easily join a signature campaign.There is also fb or Twitter campaign which rate is too low but you can earn decent with them
You are right, and on signature campaign needs much time for learn about bitcoin and other cryptos coins and we must learn about the rules of bitcointalk its self. If we don't know about the rules we will be banned in this forum, so there are not easy way to earn bitcoins, everything needs time for getting something.
1326  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 01:47:42 AM
The plan is easy and well organized, executing it is a different matter though Cheesy :
-Get 200-300 BTC "somehow"
-Wait for the price to reach $1,000 or so, Which shouldn't be as far-sighted like $5,000 and such
-Withdraw and exchange for USD, wait for another chance to re-enter with BTC.

the say is easy but the work in trade is very dificult
because price bitcoin is very liquid up and down
if buy much bitcoin wait to up, but the real bitcoin is down is not profit but lost
Yes you are right, but if you have clear rules of trading It will become different, are like time for buy and sell bitcoins , how much bitcoins you be ready for cut lost if the price going down after you bought it. You must find the ways or rules of trading that give profit constantly from trading.
1327  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: October 02, 2016, 12:59:45 AM
If you're just looking to earn an extra buck on your coins at virtually no risk, lending it on Poloniex is always a good option.
I think if we become freelancer on trading, we just need small capital and trading altcoins on poloniex and it is mean just pasive income and doesn't need fiture lending on there, because we must pay back.

A small capital can be done with it but it means a there is not a lot of income also. Safer and faster than gambling though still the risk is there. If you will just invest a lower number it doesnt need much monitoring but for bigger ones it is different. You may want to think like it is your baby.
Yes you are right small amount of capital will give small profit too, but if you have system trading ( the ways for trading that give you profit constantly from trading) it will become different although use small amount of capital, your money will growing up a little by little. You can find your system trading by practice trading altcoins on poloniex of course with low capital and if you have got it, tell me how much percent of capital you can get profit every monthly.  Grin
1328  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: I need $205 Skrill Will Give $203 btc on: October 02, 2016, 12:33:46 AM
I need $205 Skrill Will Give $203 btc.Pm me only if you can send first thanks.
Why we send first if you are serious then we can use escrow for this exchange because your account is new and no one going to send you first update your thread then hope you have some good response from members
Yes you are right, although skrill is reversible service there are not people who want trade with newbie users and there are not positive feedback. It is for safety there are many issue in scam accusations because of exchange bitcoin to reversible services payment processors ( skrill,paypal and neteller) i hope the OP understand about this problem.
1329  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Millions of People Use Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 12:24:55 AM
Actually i don't have any data of users on my country and i don't have any proof, but if i saw at market place of bitcoin.co.id (Indonesian market) there are about 300 up to 400 users who were active on the market daily, and it is just small amount of comunity in my opinion. But it will growing up step by step in the future. And i have choosed about less than 2.000.000 users in the world.
1330  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
I'm sort of new to bitcoin, I've made a couple bucks already from visiting ad sites, doing faucets, etc, but is there any other way to earn easy cash? Anyone got any suggestions?
Real money can be earned, even if you just learn to make the right phrase. But in order to earn a lot need a lot of labor.
I agree and it is need patience, hard work and consistent. Because there are not fast or easy ways for get money, everything in the world needs grapple and sacrifice for getting something.
1331  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: October 01, 2016, 06:07:05 PM
Yes you can trade bitcoin along with other cryptocurrency and you could make a hefty profit if you know basics of trading with some experienced friends in your circle just to help and give you basic trading idea.
Get tips from experienced when planning to start up gaining profits out of a particular business. Experienced guy from the same domain would share you many ways open to gain a lump of profits without much investments. It can be trading, gambling or investing on a business which would bring you a good turn over. Study, analyze and come to a conclusion before starting up with a project or a business. This would ideally give you an idea of upcoming turn over.

Agreed its always good to seek guidance from an expert person before investing our money into something as it will surely minimize our risks and it will surely give you more opportunities to make profits.
Actually i agree with your statement, but the guidance from an expert person is not free, it will become problem for people who has low capital for trading. And my suggesting for the people who has low capital for trading (include me  Grin) experience is the best teacher and always be practice .
1332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: October 01, 2016, 05:51:20 PM
You are probably aware of the recent news about removing the fiat money for good and building up the cashless world.

Have you thought that bitcoin maybe the first step of this utopia? What if CIA behind this project? Would you still keep your money as bitcoins? Would you trust them? Do we know who the hell is Satoshi Nakamoto? I suure don't.

There is one big danger ahead. If the paper money gets removed, you will have no choice but to accept to get paid in crypto currencies. And to the big point:

If you keep your money in a goddamn computer, the government can rip you off instantly if they wanted it. I am not saying they aren't doing that already as most of us are keeping *our wealth in the banks. But cryptos will make their jobs easier. Much easier.

What if bitcoin price rises to 1.000.000$ and gold and USD become literally worthless? That's when bitcoin will be the world currency, and people gonna realise that gold is just a stone, USD is just a toilet paper.

Your won't have another choice but to store your money only in crypto, because the other choices will be worthless!

 I am not sure if that's a good thing. Being dependent so much on computers just scares me.
A lot of talk and rumors empty. It seems that special someone is interested to create panic in the market cryptocurrency. Looks like someone is favorable.
Well.. i think it is just opinions and analysis possibilities of bitcoins and it is good for anticipation because bitcoins is instrument of investment and everything can be happen to bitcoins so we can make discussion about that and sharing about opinions.
1333  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you doing with Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
Are you investing your money on Bitcoin?
Do you use Bitcoin to buy things in internet?
You earn money with Bitcoin?
Yes i have made investing my small amount of money (around $17- 40)  into bitcoin via altcoins trading and collection ETC for long term investments.

For right now i don't use bitcoins to buy things in internet because there are not things that i am want.

Of course yes, i have got money from bitcoins via trading altcoins, although it is just small amount of money and will growing up step by step.
1334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoin would you buy to invest a small amount of money? on: October 01, 2016, 04:22:56 PM
I have bought coins of ETC of course with small amount and i am ready for lost into them, the reasons is ETC's price is going down around 0.0019-0.002 BTC/ETC and it has potential for growing up to 0.006BTC again, because up today ETC is still sideaway and not yet going up. But it is just my prediction, depend on you what will You doing.
1335  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: October 01, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
We can encourage local businesses to accept btc by giving local businesses more information about bitcoin so they know the benefits.
Also prices HAVE to stay stable before locals will even consider accepting it else it will not be worth it for them.

Stable price would be a curse for bitcoin users as if the price of bitcoins starts being stable no one would be able to earn profits by holding their coins while almost every bitcoin users has holding right now, so if the price starts being stable there would be less investments in bitcoin.
Yes you are right, if It be looked from viewpoint as traders but bitcoin's high fluctuation will become scary, for users who use bitcoins for transaction daily on real life are like local stores. They never use bitcoins for payment method on their local business.
1336  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many btc do you have? on: October 01, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
i wish i have 100000 btc to buy a house and everthing i need and start online company which i want
I hope you can get 100000BTC, although you must hard work and be patient until you get it and you can start collecting the bitcoins from trading,mining or you can buy bitcoins little by little and saving them. It will makes your wishing becoming true.
1337  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: exchange $ neteller, $ skrill and bitcoin( small amount weekly) on: October 01, 2016, 03:17:09 PM
Another exchange done and successfully as always!
Thanks for an awesome experience to deal with.
Will deal with again in the immediate future! Grin
I am ready for serve, so always feel free to PM me, i will do what is can do for you and for other users, stay be updating on this thread and the thread be locked. Thank you very much.
1338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH,ETH,LTC and DOGE on: October 01, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
Hey guys,

Which coin most stable for invest :

- LTC is 3nd currency after bitcoin (old    one)

- DOGE is 2nd (alt) currency after bitcoin launch

- DASH mostly stable over 2 years since changed name from darkcoin to be DASH

OR

- ETH who was "predicted" by investor would be best currency in the next year

Give me opinion
In my opinion ETH is not safe for make investment into it for long time, because of failed DAO coin and ETH is hard fork today although there are many people has a lot of money behind it, but they are just investors who looking for money. I am personality making investment into ETC of course with i can accept lost it.
1339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: October 01, 2016, 11:13:21 AM
You are probably aware of the recent news about removing the fiat money for good and building up the cashless world.

Have you thought that bitcoin maybe the first step of this utopia? What if CIA behind this project? Would you still keep your money as bitcoins? Would you trust them? Do we know who the hell is Satoshi Nakamoto? I suure don't.

There is one big danger ahead. If the paper money gets removed, you will have no choice but to accept to get paid in crypto currencies. And to the big point:

If you keep your money in a goddamn computer, the government can rip you off instantly if they wanted it. I am not saying they aren't doing that already as most of us are keeping their wealth in the banks. But cryptos will make their jobs easier. Much easier.

What if bitcoin price rises to 1.000.000$ and gold and USD become literally worthless? That's when bitcoin will be the world currency, and people gonna realise that gold is just a stone, USD is just a toilet paper.

Your won't have another choice but to store your money only in crypto, because the other choices will be worthless!

 I am not sure if that's a good thing. Being dependent so much on computers just scares me.
Thank you very much, you have shared the opinion and unfortunately  i have made investment into bitcoin and other coins with just a little amount of money, so it is not dangerous for me, and in my opinion bitcoin is instrument of investments, it is does not currency. Bitcoin become dangerous if i don't have the private key. Thanks
1340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Practical use of Ethereum. on: October 01, 2016, 10:58:06 AM
So etheruem is overhyped? Societies has a code of conduct and binding principles to abide by. But if smart contracts are not legal binding... then why spend money on ether? I might as well stick to my cron jobs.

IMO,
There is no real reason to buy eth or etc , once people realize it is not legally binding in any way.
It being legally binding has been a misconception fostered by the people behind it to make money off of the speculation of the uninformed.


 Cool

So what is the big fuss over Ethereum again? Oh..it is profitable! Cheesy But what is the main purpose of Ethereum again?

the hilarious thing about etheruem is that it was born like a decentralized platform, but it's very well everything but that, it's now very centralized how funny
Yes you are right, ETH today is not decentralize coin, it is just hard fork of coin because of DAO and with some people has a lot of money who made investment into ETH. The real of ethereum is ETC for today and there are not practical usage of ETH on real life except for trading and play HYIP.
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