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1361  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 29, 2015, 04:06:21 AM
It occurs to me that the primary reason to bring a lawsuit at this point would be to attempt to get a bigger share of what specific people lost than they would receive after the SEC is done with GAW. Similar to the Madoff compensation after the fact where the average compensation was closer to 1/3rd of losses. Imagine if you suspected the Ponzi prior to the SEC finishing its investigation and recovered your investment before everything came out in the open. If that's the goal, then dragging their feet on getting the lawsuit started is antithetical. They should be pushing this into court yesterday. I certainly wouldn't accuse anyone without absolute proof, and I have none, but the evidence suggests that this supposed lawsuit is not what it seems and is more likely a way to deflect and distract the people who were harmed and most upset about it while any remaining funds are stashed prior to the SEC ordering a confiscation of everything they can find. Lots of these people are young enough that they could potentially outlive their prison sentences and want to have some funds around when they are released. They aren't going to get 150 years like Madoff. It makes the situation make sense to me, but this is all supposition and hypothetical.

How will the lawsuit get people cash?

They didn't pay the electric bill from mr. "never been convicted" Joe Mordica, why would they pay the judgement from that lawsuit from his new business partners?
1362  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 29, 2015, 01:24:53 AM
I know that common sense and the legal system don't always match up, I highly doubt that allen's "knowledge" of where the money is will put him higher up of the collections totem pole than the people ahead of him in line. Especially the electric company and the sec fines that are on the way.

I know it sucks, but I don't really see a good outcome in this. Paying a lawyer screams throwing good money after bad, especially when it's going to be so hard to collect.
1363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 28, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
Any sites you recommend?
Strategy?

I just play sports gambling and do not have a good strategy, I only know about my team that will play Smiley

Betting on the team you know about is actually a good idea. Blindly betting on your team isn't smart, but learning all you can about 1 or a few teams and only betting when you think it's a good bet is a good start.
1364  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTCjam - Any Thoughts or Experiances on: September 28, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
Never really saw the point of btc jam. The price of BTC is way too volatile, and there are too many scams.

There are so many possibilities that result in the lender getting screwed.

If the price goes up, a legitimate borrower wont' be able to pay you back, so you are screwed.

If the price goes down, a legitimate borrower can pay you back quickly, leaving you with a more BTC, but less to actually do with them.


Then we get to all the borrowers that are "investing" in various schemes/scams/assorted nonsense. When you lend to someone who is investing in something else (like everyone lending any coins at all was doing during the pirate days), you are actually investing in that underlying scam, with MORE risk (the risk that the borrower will rob you) and LESS reward (because the borrower needs a cut.

Lending coins long term just doesn't make sense to me.
1365  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 28, 2015, 02:03:47 PM
You're having a bit-lend of me aren't you Smiley they don't take their own coin in trade fees?

Learned that from GAW, they wouldn't take their own currency either except for an hour selling gift cards.

Stop fudding. They took some from like 3 people for coinstand (and then dumped about a zillion coins to actually pay for the shit).
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 28, 2015, 12:37:07 PM
If you want to earn with gambling - you will definitely lose. From my experience only people who play for fun win occasionally.
Strategy? There is no guaranteed strategy to earn with gambling. All strategies work until they don't.

That is not entirely correct. It is very hard to be good at it, but there are some professional poker players and also professional sports betting punters, so it is possible.

I'm not saying that's impossible, all i'm saying is that in general If you want to earn with gambling - you will definitely lose. Of course there are some exceptions, but I've never met any in person. And one more thing: a professional gambler will never ask on a forum about a strategy to earn some money with gambling.

So I guess all the forums on the Internet where people discuss poker and sports betting strategy are figments of my imagination?

1367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: September 28, 2015, 01:27:53 AM
Yep. Total Ponzi Scheme. Payouts are based on current Mhs trading prices. Real shame actually. That was the only Scrypt cloud mining service I could find and of course it turns out to be a ponzi. LOL

Anyone know of a REAL scrypt cloud mining service? Something like scrypt.cc (with trading and such) but, well, not run by a scumbag criminal?

I have my own machines but they are off for the summer. Heat from them just drives my electric bill way too high.

Would you rent out your miners when they were running for less money than they will generate? Why would you expect someone else to do it?
1368  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 27, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Don't know if this has already been covered or not but...



http://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=paycoin

so vlad sold his integrity for a bunch of worthless xpy because of a trademark that Ganza didn't even bother to keep up and that he probably could have fought, wow.
1369  Economy / Gambling / Re: NFL Picks on: September 27, 2015, 09:59:32 PM
1. Atlanta will win vs Dallas (1.84)  - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.84BTC and if lost 0BTC.  Win
2. Baltimore will win vs Cincinnati (1.78) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.78BTC and if lost 0BTC.  Loss
3. Indianapolis will win vs Tennessee (1.52) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.52BTC and if lost 0BTC.  Win
4. New England will win vs Jacksonville (1.03) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.03BTC and if lost 0BTC. Win
5. Carolina will win vs New Orleans (1.21) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.21BTC and if lost 0BTC. Win
6. Cleveland will win vs Oakland (1.52) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.52BTC and if lost 0BTC. Loss
7. NY jets will win vs Philadelphia (1.74) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.74BTC and if lost 0BTC. Loss
8. Pittsburgh will win vs St Louis (1.85) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.85BTC and if lost 0BTC. Win
9. San Diego will win vs Minnesota (1.95) - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.95BTC and if lost 0BTC.  Loss
10. Houston will win vs Tampa Bay (1.32)  - Amount Bet:1BTC - If won, 1.32BTC and if lost 0BTC.  Win



so you are left with 8.77 out of your original 10. -1.23 BTC even though you went 6-4. This is why betting on heavy favorites is silly.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 27, 2015, 04:50:59 PM
It is possible to win millions of dollars gambling, but it is not very likely.

If you actually want to make money betting you need to make bets that have positive expected value. This is very difficult to do because that means someone else needs to make a bet with a negative expected value. The best ways to do that (best doesn't mean easiest or automatic) are poker and betting on sports.
1371  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
I would like to see some past records Wink

I think he just started here and dont have any past records and btw he is giving tips but doesnt guarantee you will win it, although he is saying his prediction winning or losing doesnt matter with him,if you believe him take the bet if not take other bet. It is easier like flip the coin, records doesnt determined he is a pro predictor
http://btc-tipster.blogspot.com
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106813
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110408
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190566

I am here from July and if u don't know anything stop fucking saying rubbish.



That blogspot has some of the worst "tips" i've ever seen ever. You don't know what the word guarantee means, you don't know why losing a bet with a 1.25 payout is much worse than winning a bet with a 1.8 payout. You don't know that you are the one posting "rubbish"
1372  Economy / Gambling / Re: NFL Picks on: September 27, 2015, 04:15:02 PM
Wow, you picked every favorite. Lots of thought and skill went into these picks.
1373  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 01:22:46 PM
Bet 1 bitcoin on each game.


Lose 1 on parlay

Lose 1 on Man city

Win .78 on Arsenal

Win 1.02 on Liverpool/av score

Win .18 on ManU

Win .36 on southampton over

Win .78 on both stoke score

win .31 on West ham

win .14 on  chelsea

That way you only won 1.57, which is a profit, but really not that great when you bet 9 bitcoins, certainly nothing to write home about and no something that correlates in any way to an 80% record. You SHOULD be picking 80% when you are making bets that have 1.25 odds. You hit 80 with picks on worse odds.

Its gambling and if you land ur ass with a profit, Be happy.

Everyone will have a much better chance of landing on their ass with profit by doing their research than by going off your self proclaimed GUESSES and low payout bets.
1374  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 01:17:30 PM
Bet 1 bitcoin on each game.


Lose 1 on parlay

Lose 1 on Man city

Win .78 on Arsenal

Win 1.02 on Liverpool/av score

Win .18 on ManU

Win .36 on southampton over

Win .78 on both stoke score

win .31 on West ham

win .14 on  chelsea

That way you only won 1.57, which is a profit, but really not that great when you bet 9 bitcoins, certainly nothing to write home about and no something that correlates in any way to an 80% record. You SHOULD be picking 80% when you are making bets that have 1.25 odds. You hit 80 with picks on worse odds.
1375  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 01:11:52 PM
What is the reason you don't want to answer questions in this thread, but instead you are opting to use some outside service?

Because every time he makes a thread here posting picks it ends after 1 day when he loses when he bets on a huge favorite.
You fucking idiot, I won 8 bets out of 10 in my previous parlay.
If you don't know anything, dont put your fucking nose in between. Cunt.

And you lost one of the biggest favorites, which is the point I've been trying to get through your thick skull for months. Before it costs you or someone else a bunch of money.

Losing an 80% favorite, is a MUCH bigger deal than winning all the other crap bets on your parlay. And guess what, when you lose ONE bet on a parlay it loses everything.
And KID its a Prediction, winning 8 out of 10 is like 80% correct guess.

That is useless information. How much money did you win? Betting sports is NOT a 50/50 proposition. When you make bets that have low payouts you need to bet more money because it is easier to win. Especially when you leave out that 3 out of 10 of your bets are win OR draw, which makes it a LOT easier to win. How did you win 8 out of 10 when 2 didn't happen yet and you lost the biggest favorite?


Let's figure it out.

Lost 1 bitcoin on the parlay.

Lost 4 bitcoin on Man City (have to bet more because the odds suck)

Won 1 on Arsenal.

Won 1.02 on Liverpool and AV to score

Won 1 on ManU

Won 1 on Southhampton Swansea Over

Won 1 on Stoke and Bournemout to score

Won 1 on west ham or Draw

Won 1 on Chelsea or draw

So you bet God knows how much and won 2.02 bitcoins. Since you don't understand how I came up with that 4 on Man City, you probably bet the same amount on each game, who knows who much you won with such low payouts. That math coming up next.
1376  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 12:56:53 PM
What is the reason you don't want to answer questions in this thread, but instead you are opting to use some outside service?

Because every time he makes a thread here posting picks it ends after 1 day when he loses when he bets on a huge favorite.
You fucking idiot, I won 8 bets out of 10 in my previous parlay.
If you don't know anything, dont put your fucking nose in between. Cunt.

And you lost one of the biggest favorites, which is the point I've been trying to get through your thick skull for months. Before it costs you or someone else a bunch of money.

Losing an 80% favorite, is a MUCH bigger deal than winning all the other crap bets on your parlay. And guess what, when you lose ONE bet on a parlay it loses everything.
1377  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ask me any sport prediction [FREE - NO REFERRAL LINK] on: September 27, 2015, 12:49:47 PM
What is the reason you don't want to answer questions in this thread, but instead you are opting to use some outside service?

Because every time he makes a thread here posting picks it ends after 1 day when he loses when he bets on a huge favorite.
1378  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What do you think about "GainBit" ( Mining Investment Company)? on: September 27, 2015, 12:47:00 PM
Not a good way to make money.

Most likely a complete scam, but could just be a stupid business model.

How do you invest in a mining farm? If they already have miners, why do they need your money if they have profitable miners? It takes all the risks of cloud mining and adds in another middleman to possibly rob you if everything goes perfectly.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 27, 2015, 12:08:38 PM
If you are skilled player i think you can do it in blackjack or poker. But if you own online casino I can say yes its profitable because only few can bet the house very rarely.

It is extremely difficult in blackjack at casinos and probably impossible online.

Bj using perfect strategy is -everything under most rulesets. You need to count cards to get yo +ev and that is not possible on most online sites.
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 26, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
not true, If you develop your skill sets along with your particular game, then the winning chances after hard practice you can definitely crack the game to make your profits.

I strongly say gambling will pay us in long term basis. But we need to design our own strategy and skill developments are more important.

there is no possible strategy or skill developments for roulette, dice, etc.
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