I feel sick
I closed my Masternode and sold / am selling all of my coins. I spread this sale over several exchanges not to influence the price drop / change. Now I will step back and see how this would develop. IMHO - Evan has caved to the political pressure coming from a more conservative members of the Foundation. Compromises never excite me, for the key point of attack to Darkcoin would always be its main feature - almost perfect anonymity. As such Darkcoin is on a forefront of fight for our freedom and our right to privacy in this surveillance culture we have to endure. Compromising a well established brand that could've been a real instrument of change with several merchants that "might" with "no guarantees" adopt Dashcoin or whatever the "brand" will be is a sign of intrinsic weakness I dislike.
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- I do believe Dash/DRK can continue to shape the crypto scene as it can do it through its features and services which are exactly the same and are not necessarily well represented under the brand Darkcoin anymore as other things like IX are just as important as anonymity.
Are they really as important as anonymity? (I'd rather call it privacy) I think you wish them to be "as important" in order to justify standing behind a decision (for it does feel like a decision) that has not been thought through. What is being attacked regarding our human rights, on a scale never before seen in human history? PayPal transactions that are as instant as IX or our right to privacy, a feature that Darkcoin is protecting by making our transaction anonymous? And pray, if the product currently known as Darkcoin features, InstantX, obfuscation, DarkSend, anonymity and X, Y and Z features in the future, what brand would represent ALL of them? Changing Darkcoin name would be a half-baked decision based on caving in to several services that "might" include the coin if it would be called differently. It reeks to heavens.
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ELM4ever on Darkcointalk (dashtalk, give me a break) said something important, worth posting here: "Darkcoin was based and designed to enable anonymity, if required. That was the value proposition of Darkcoin - why change it? If you think that it can't be a worldwide issue without consequences, listen between minute 26 and minute 28 of Andreas' address to MIT students last month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8y_GypCWf4Regarding anonymity: listen to other value propositions at minute 25 of the above video. "Anonymity is a vital human right! - You cannot have freedom of expression and freedom of association without anonymity" - Andreas Antonopoulos" I am in Darkcoin BECAUSE of its anonymity (despite publicly revealing my real name at Darkcoin Ambassadors Group etc., twitter etc.) and if it is perfected it would draw attention and maybe adversary actions even if it would be called SAINT COIN. We either fight to change / improve the world or start compromising with its (perceived) stronger players and lose.
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Serious question Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend? I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely. Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand? This little storm has now, I would guess: -- stopped the video production initiative after the community has given the money of it (for a Darkcoin video); -- Darkcoin Ambassadors initiative would have to wait, presentations to be on hold; -- merchants and exchanges already accepting Darkcoin would have to change their setups and some might even drop us if they were drawn by the message that is now being "re-branded" -- websites, like Darkcointalk.org would have to change / redirect; -- caused the price to drop significantly as the people are re-assessing re-branding so the question is "WHY?" This is what you wrote on Darkcointalk: "About adoption you are wrong, Evan wouldn't do this in a vacuum just because it is a theorized problem. We have received direct comments from potential partners (existing crypto services, merchants, exchanges, etc) were they liked the technology, but would consider adding DRK only if the name is changed. So basically changing the name does not guarantee we will be added on several places but it does open the possibility," so I wonder, aren't we thinking in a vacuum indeed? All we see is the CURRENT landscape in an ever changing world whose crypto scene is budding and INSTEAD OF SHAPING it (which Darkcoin has been doing so far) we are bowing to several "mights" that "do not guarantee anything." A big, big mistake, revealing a weakness.
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Thank you very much for all the donations ! The Fundraiser is CLOSED !!!Tx to Evan's personal funds and the bounty pot we have all funds we need to move this project to the next level ! Thank you for the initiative, @tungfa, a gazillion thanks to Evan who, it seems, is not only the Core Developer but the angel investor as well, and one big thank you to every single one that donated.
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It looks like a whale sugar daddy has fired in a couple of 151 DRK shots towards the end to give it a humphie up. It certainly does!! This community makes me happy! (and proud to be a part of it)
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When we've finished being entertained by the laughingstocks that stumble in here having lost their way to a cockfight.
Soon, I hope. This kindergarten-like, endless quarrel with unsubstantiated nonsense used up well too much space on the forum already. We have an ongoing fund raising initiative:All right then, let get this rolling ! Video DRK Donations Please:XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4 dig deep in your pockets we need around 850 - 900 DRK Tx Bump! Every DRK counts! Lets do it! Woop Woop 410.10194906 DRKwe still have a bit to go please keep em coming ! tx We are at 423.27948203 DRK or $1,447.62 thus far. (based on https://coinmarketcap.com/#USD current DRK price) This means we're at 57.90% at the moment, or, we're only 307 DRK short from the goal. Let us do it and use our energy on something productive. As soon as someone donates up to 10 DRK I will, as my 2nd donation, match it, just let me know. + some more tx: 168f7c26b815d78c3cb5896c2e803baa11ac56a1d28f5d4b374d829806022cbb Thanks splawik21!! 7.88852352 DRK matchedTransaction ID: 77efce57f4f84a1c605aaa7cb0ccdc31655239ed87f31c15e72e418b0a5a3dbf-000 We're now at 439.05652907 DRK or $1,523.52 at the moment, or over the 60% mark!! (60.94%) At this price we need only 720.46 DRK total or only 281.40347093 DRK for the balance and we'll embark on making a professional promo video for Darkcoin. This is much more fun than dealing with the trolls, don't you agree? Come on guys, let us do it!! I've just dropped 10DRK in. You do all realise that this could turn out being the most expensive promo vid ever created...?! A worthy cause though. Walter Great!! Something strange has happened: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4.htmIt shows 751.05652907 DRK or fully funded innitiative!?? @tungfa, could you check it out?
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When we've finished being entertained by the laughingstocks that stumble in here having lost their way to a cockfight.
Soon, I hope. This kindergarten-like, endless quarrel with unsubstantiated nonsense used up well too much space on the forum already. We have an ongoing fund raising initiative:All right then, let get this rolling ! Video DRK Donations Please:XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4 dig deep in your pockets we need around 850 - 900 DRK Tx Bump! Every DRK counts! Lets do it! Woop Woop 410.10194906 DRKwe still have a bit to go please keep em coming ! tx We are at 423.27948203 DRK or $1,447.62 thus far. (based on https://coinmarketcap.com/#USD current DRK price) This means we're at 57.90% at the moment, or, we're only 307 DRK short from the goal. Let us do it and use our energy on something productive. As soon as someone donates up to 10 DRK I will, as my 2nd donation, match it, just let me know. + some more tx: 168f7c26b815d78c3cb5896c2e803baa11ac56a1d28f5d4b374d829806022cbb Thanks splawik21!! 7.88852352 DRK matchedTransaction ID: 77efce57f4f84a1c605aaa7cb0ccdc31655239ed87f31c15e72e418b0a5a3dbf-000 We're now at 439.05652907 DRK or $1,523.52 at the moment, or over the 60% mark!! (60.94%) At this price we need only 720.46 DRK total or only 281.40347093 DRK for the balance and we'll embark on making a professional promo video for Darkcoin. This is much more fun than dealing with the trolls, don't you agree? Come on guys, let us do it!!
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When we've finished being entertained by the laughingstocks that stumble in here having lost their way to a cockfight.
Soon, I hope. This kindergarten-like, endless quarrel with unsubstantiated nonsense used up well too much space on the forum already. We have an ongoing fund raising initiative:All right then, let get this rolling ! Video DRK Donations Please:XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4 dig deep in your pockets we need around 850 - 900 DRK Tx Bump! Every DRK counts! Lets do it! Woop Woop 410.10194906 DRKwe still have a bit to go please keep em coming ! tx We are at 423.27948203 DRK or $1,447.62 thus far. (based on https://coinmarketcap.com/#USD current DRK price) This means we're at 57.90% at the moment, or, we're only 307 DRK short from the goal. Let us do it and use our energy on something productive. As soon as someone donates up to 10 DRK I will, as my 2nd donation, match it, just let me know.
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All right then, let get this rolling ! Video DRK Donations Please:XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4 dig deep in your pockets we need around 850 - 900 DRK Tx Bump! Every DRK counts! Lets do it! BUMP With a current price of $3.45 (per https://coinmarketcap.com/#USD) our 423.27948203 DRK donated thus far are worth $1,460.31 i.e. 58.41% of the $2,500.00 needed, and as of now, only 724 DRK total is needed, or only 301.35 more from what we already have. We will do it
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All right then, let get this rolling ! Video DRK Donations Please:XkiQaaqbGTJ5WBQHomB7qMyEMULTfXDRP4 dig deep in your pockets we need around 850 - 900 DRK Tx Bump! Every DRK counts! Lets do it! Woop Woop 410.10194906 DRKwe still have a bit to go please keep em coming ! tx Bump. This will help our cause considerably. Great material for the DAG and for anyone who would like to explain Darkcoin in a concise way. Trying to get some #DarkLove for you from the Twittersphere: https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/574424097746198528You really need 3500 $ for making a video? Edit : Anyway ,..Sent 1 drk across .. thats all I could afford for now Thanks, and it's 2500$ not 3500$. And with a current DRK price of $3.40, these 421.27948203 DRK donated thus far are worth $1,432.35 or 57.29% of the monies needed. Good progress. I will add more to what I've donated already, once we reach 80%
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Holy shit on the Euro.
I am traveling (on an extended stay in Europe) and I started to feel like I was feeling in Argentina / Brazil as they respective currencies were plummeting...
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Thats our first major publication isn't it?
I wonder if there is anything in print?
EDIT: Tungfa...maybe the writer would be interested in interviewing Evan?
Hahaaaa really !? Let me think .... Actually i can NOTas i might just have a drink (4-6) right now ! Woot Woot Edit: Can somebody please check on a print version ?!? Tx contact@nicholastufnell.com
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EDIT: Hey ! I just got Hero member. When did that happen ? That's embarrassing - I clearly waste far too much time on here. Better shut up for a while So, all one needs is to chatter incessantly for a while and she or he is a "hero" ** just kidding, @toknormal, your posts are among the most intelligent here. You are, indeed, my hero **
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I agree that pursuing BTC-e is fruitless. If they wanted to make commissions on volume, they would have added both Doge and Darkcoin by now. If in the future they decide to, so be it. The main focus should be bringing up the activity on Bitfinex--it's a very small club of coins on there (BTC, LTC, and DRK). Foolish not to support them, now more than ever. They also have the best shot of getting margin (leverage) if activity rises.
I loved and traded margin on Bitfinex until they messed up margin balance and cost me money. They also never replied to my question(s) and / or to my math formulas proving them wrong; perhaps it was just a glitch, but I never went back to trading on their plaftorm. The point you make made me re-think my stance; every bit of action that might help Darkcoin, and I am in...
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while i'd love to see drk on BTC-e (it's my fav exchange, been using for years now) I'd rather see volume moved over to Bitfinex. With the volume that BTC does I think it lends a great segway into drk. I'm also afraid that because we aren't doing volume there it may get removed and we'll lose this chance.
The bottom line, Darkcoin is barely a year old and is already #5 in marketcap ( https://coinmarketcap.com/#USD) with these funny BitShares and withering down Litecoin in front of it. The market forces will do their magic and if BTC-e would not add Darkcoin, someone else that might not even exist today, would and they will end up losing. It's fun speculating about all that, but all that matters is the best development team and the great community supporting their work...
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Wow. People in this thread have really been giving it to Tao of late I thought the image was just a bit fun and while it may be misleading to some I don't think it will be the reason we don't make it on to BTC-E. The main reason we haven't made it to BTC-e is because they're the biggest LTC bagholders in the world, along with OKCoin. Neither of which like the existence of DRK. If this is true, than they'll go down together with LTC for I can't see a single reason why this trend would not continue: http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=6-months&resolution=day&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e
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Not sure why does everyone wants btc-e so badly. It's a dead exchange with LTC lovers. Finex is bigger than Stamp, btc-e, Kraken all together. It's HUGE and we have not much volume there.
If I am not wrong - BTC-E is most popular Bitcoin exchange in Russia and have perfect payment gateways for Russian Rubles. So it is perfect target... You're not wrong. They are bilingual and clearly cater to Russian markets...
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I opened a BTC-E account but it said trollbox not available to new members... How long does that last?
You need a minimum coin balance to post there. Also, please don't start a spam war with them - it will only get their backs up and kill any chances of getting DRK on there. I've often posted the odd mischievous remark but I don't think it's a good idea to turn it into a campaign in trollbox. Ultimately it will only get on if they think all their markets are diminishing volume and Darkcoin has a chance of becoming a high liquidity trade. I opened a ticket there asking them about future plans. It's simple: I have active Cryptsy and Bitfinex accounts but I dislike them both. I have an account with them, but it is not active. I would gladly move all my coins to them, if they would add Darkcoin. And NO, I did not post my question in any sort of demanding way. I am indeed curios and it is kind of obvious that they have a bunch of nonsensical coins there, but not the most exciting one...
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0.013-0.014 this week end ? or maybe we will kick bitshares on coin market cap
Maybe? I was annoyed when Counterparty and / or Dogecoin and / or some other thingies had had bigger market cap than Darkcoin but than...
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