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[Brilliantrocket]

hey people,

i've been working long hours and am hoping to get a balanced, FACTUAL, non-troll response to ?what happened, really?  short is fine, is there a sr. memeber out there who is neither troll nor salesman?

This post explains everything : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/
Basically, Darkcoin is going to be rebranded. Some people didn't like that, and decided to throw a fit.

[konadave2004]

hey people,

i've been working long hours and am hoping to get a balanced, FACTUAL, non-troll response to ?what happened, really?  short is fine, is there a sr. memeber out there who is neither troll nor salesman?

This post explains everything : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/
Basically, Darkcoin is going to be rebranded. Some people didn't like that, and decided to throw a fit.

thank you, that is exactly what i was looking for.

[someredguy]

Can darkcointalk be now called dashboard? 

[tungfa]

Fuck off
Adam White
 

[kadrek]

Wow... The trolls have sure shown up in mass this time. They must feel threatened by the coin The ignorance of some of them astounds me.

[Jaroco]

How was the name of the Monero Coin at the beginning. Can't remember it anymore...

[freedomno1]

Rebranding and Scalability:

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/

Interesting read thanks for the share, since its in the very early stages will not ask for a whitepaper on it ^^
But kind of curious how it will be implemented, kind of thinking a maidsafe storage mechanism for data + decentralized distribution if I had to think of a variant of it off the top of my head, not a complete copy but multiple complete copies spread across various clients.

[Minotaur26]

How was the name of the Monero Coin at the beginning. Can't remember it anymore...

Bitmonero

[Hueristic]

How was the name of the Monero Coin at the beginning. Can't remember it anymore...

Good Point, All I remember is it was a scam coin that got dumped.

[danilo303]

Serious question  
Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend?

[Minotaur26]

Serious question  
Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend?

I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely.  Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand?

[g4q34g4qg47ww]

For logos ideas im thinking of something in blue that makes use of the "-" symbol more than the d

[tungfa]

I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely.  Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand?

Oh there is a discussion !
hmmm
interesting !

[hashmoon]

Serious question  
Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend?

is not  a good brand

[cAPSLOCK]

For logos ideas im thinking of something in blue that makes use of the "-" symbol more than the d

The minus symbol does seem more appropriate at the moment.

[Minotaur26]

I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely.  Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand?

Oh there is a discussion !
hmmm
interesting !

Well yeah the one we have been having all day. And as a community all year I guess. At least that is what I was referring to.

[Artoodeetoo]

Having got over the initial shock... I actually love the name Dark Coin.... I can see the points being raised are valid, and I am glad Otoh has got some coins, thats another load that will not be seeing the light of day again for some time...

From a personal point of view though, when I hear the word "dash" I think of the bloody kardashian shop because its all the other half watches!

That is not good!

But I think we have got to think about adoption..

However, I personally think there is a lot further to go with the name Dark Coin before this would have become a big issue....

Just my ten penneth...

[wozzek23]

Serious question  
Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend?

I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely.  Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand?

This little storm has now, I would guess:

-- stopped the video production initiative after the community has given the money of it (for a Darkcoin video);
-- Darkcoin Ambassadors initiative would have to wait, presentations to be on hold;
-- merchants and exchanges already accepting Darkcoin would have to change their setups and some might even drop us if they were drawn by the message that is now being "re-branded"
-- websites, like Darkcointalk.org would have to change / redirect;
-- caused the price to drop significantly as the people are re-assessing re-branding so the question is "WHY?"

This is what you wrote on Darkcointalk: "About adoption you are wrong, Evan wouldn't do this in a vacuum just because it is a theorized problem. We have received direct comments from potential partners (existing crypto services, merchants, exchanges, etc) were they liked the technology, but would consider adding DRK only if the name is changed. So basically changing the name does not guarantee we will be added on several places but it does open the possibility," so I wonder, aren't we thinking in a vacuum indeed?

All we see is the CURRENT landscape in an ever changing world whose crypto scene is budding and INSTEAD OF SHAPING it (which Darkcoin has been doing so far) we are bowing to several "mights" that "do not guarantee anything." A big, big mistake, revealing a weakness.

[wozzek23]

ELM4ever on Darkcointalk (dashtalk, give me a break) said something important, worth posting here:

"Darkcoin was based and designed to enable anonymity, if required. That was the value proposition of Darkcoin - why change it?
If you think that it can't be a worldwide issue without consequences, listen between minute 26 and minute 28 of Andreas' address to MIT students last month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8y_GypCWf4

Regarding anonymity: listen to other value propositions at minute 25 of the above video.
"Anonymity is a vital human right! - You cannot have freedom of expression and freedom of association without anonymity" - Andreas Antonopoulos"

I am in Darkcoin BECAUSE of its anonymity (despite publicly revealing my real name at Darkcoin Ambassadors Group etc., twitter etc.) and if it is perfected it would draw attention and maybe adversary actions even if it would be called SAINT COIN.

We either fight to change / improve the world or start compromising with its (perceived) stronger players and lose.

[Minotaur26]

Serious question  
Will Darksend be rebranded to Dashsend?

I don't think we have reached that part of the discussion, but I think is unlikely.  Maybe just your "private balance" without a secondary brand?

This little storm has now, I would guess:

-- stopped the video production initiative after the community has given the money of it (for a Darkcoin video);
-- Darkcoin Ambassadors initiative would have to wait, presentations to be on hold;
-- merchants and exchanges already accepting Darkcoin would have to change their setups and some might even drop us if they were drawn by the message that is now being "re-branded"
-- websites, like Darkcointalk.org would have to change / redirect;
-- caused the price to drop significantly as the people are re-assessing re-branding so the question is "WHY?"

This is what you wrote on Darkcointalk: "About adoption you are wrong, Evan wouldn't do this in a vacuum just because it is a theorized problem. We have received direct comments from potential partners (existing crypto services, merchants, exchanges, etc) were they liked the technology, but would consider adding DRK only if the name is changed. So basically changing the name does not guarantee we will be added on several places but it does open the possibility," so I wonder, aren't we thinking in a vacuum indeed?

All we see is the CURRENT landscape in an ever changing world whose crypto scene is budding and INSTEAD OF SHAPING it (which Darkcoin has been doing so far) we are bowing to several "mights" that "do not guarantee anything." A big, big mistake, revealing a weakness.

- The production of the video has not stopped, obviously a lot of good info was lost with so many posts. But the video starts with the script part and we are moving forward with the project, it takes about 45 days to produce so we will work on it. It starts with the script which is pretty name independent.

- Ambassadors, I guess waiting a couple of days to define this would be prudent.

- That post I made just indicates that re-branding opens up new real opportunities. Mentioning there are no guarantees is just being responsible as nothing is entirely certain. I am not implying that is the sole reason for considering a name change as they are many, just stating the fact that it opens new opportunities.

- I do believe Dash/DRK can continue to shape the crypto scene as it can do it through its features and services which are exactly the same and are not necessarily well represented under the brand Darkcoin anymore as other things like IX are just as important as anonymity.

Just wanted to clarify because you quoted me, I do respect your opinion though. Just see it a bit different.