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141  Other / Meta / Re: Little help with an abusive member: Vod - Self Proclaimed forum admin on: July 22, 2014, 12:17:09 AM
He still is unwilling to respond on his allegations even after I had neutral parties attempt to ask him about it.

What does that say to you? The man destroys an account, won't explain why to anyone.

Pretty sure that means he's:

a) Lying about it
b) Realizes he'd sound like a fool trying to explain it
c) Does not want to admit wrong-doing

Pretty crappy of him and he won't fix it.
142  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 22, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
Seems rather weird to do this to someone?

Not weird, just kind of a dick move, if the person doesn't have it coming.

I think this guy has it coming, OP thought he had it coming and so do about 2 or 3 dozen other people on this forum.

He has it coming. The guy is unreasonable, arrogant, egotistical, malicious and a little crazy. There are also rumors flying around that he's a bit of an incestuous pedophile (not sure how true that is but others have posted evidence of it).

So ya, sounds like he has it coming.

And every rumor is true, right? There's no proof. At all. Just a random site that points accusations. But then again everything on the Internet is correct. Rumor has it, I'm a demon.

Some are, some are not, who knows if it is. I can tell the guy has issues, not sure if they're that severe or if it stops at just social skills. At this point, I'd lean toward +incestuous pedophile.
143  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
Seems rather weird to do this to someone?

Not weird, just kind of a dick move, if the person doesn't have it coming.

I think this guy has it coming, OP thought he had it coming and so do about 2 or 3 dozen other people on this forum.

He has it coming. The guy is unreasonable, arrogant, egotistical, malicious and a little crazy. There are also rumors flying around that he's a bit of an incestuous pedophile (not sure how true that is but others have posted evidence of it).

So ya, sounds like he has it coming.
144  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 05:57:06 PM
Banks take complaints about their employees VERY seriously. Your efforts would not be wasted here. The fact that he's conducting malicious activity and fighting with / libeling so many people online is going to get him in to a world of shit at this job.

If you want some real payback against Martin's attacks, write a letter or put in a call to his employer ASAP. I know I am.

You're going to mess with a man's livelihood because
you don't like what he does on a forum?

Just my opinion, but I think that's kind of lowdown and dirty.

You may want to carefully consider
what you're about to do.



What makes you think he's not messing with my livelihood by destroying my Bitcoin talk account that I've had for a long time?

I probably would not do something like that if it was not done in such a malicious manor and so smugly by him. His stance is basically "I can do what ever I want, fuck you, I have trust rating from big traders to destroy you with".

Someone that basically is willing to destroy forum accounts out of pure anger, lie and then top of off with a smug attitude, doesn't deserve to have their livelihood messed with? I disagree. This guy needs a major reality check. You fuck with the bull, you get the horns. This guy has definitely fucked with a lot of bulls and now he's got some horns coming his way.

If he was even the slightest bit reasonable or willing to explain anything, I may have a different view but in my case, which is the only case I have 100% of the facts of, he's done what he's done and then basically told me to fuck off and he doesn't have to justify or explain anything to me. That's seriously wrong.
145  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
While I think Vod takes negative trusting people to far, a dox of him isn't right either. He doesn't give people the benefit of the doubt. If it looks like a scam, post that in their thread. Don't give them a neg trust that shows up to everyone since your in the default trust settings. Neg trust should only be given to trolls, known scammers, or obvious scam attempts. A user looking to sell their account is NOT a negative trust offense (the forum allows it), and neither is users looking for loans

Actually in my case he went one step further. He actually lied about the reason he was leaving me negative trust. If you look through the tread where he's doing this to me, you'll see that the reason he did it to me is unfounded and he never would explain or provide any example of it.

After this happened I pointed that out to him immediately and he was angered by it. He's changed the feedback 4 times, each time making it sound worse and worse. He has still until the time of this post never even provided one example of his claims against me nor will he respond to anyone else about it.

THAT deserves a doxxing. A simple misunderstanding which he's willing to be reasonable about, no. In my case, a malicious negative trust that he's done in anger that is untrue, no, that deserves what every low down dirty thing someone can do to him because he's initiated that vicious circle of lying and damage to me.

I personally wont rest until he's experienced some real life damage and grief, just like he has done to me. The only difference is, I actually have a reason to do it to him. He had no good reason to do it to me.
146  Other / Meta / Re: Little help with an abusive member: Vod - Self Proclaimed forum admin on: July 21, 2014, 03:42:47 PM
This situation is a text example of conflict of data. Vod thinks op is scammer op says he is not. No one has sufficient information to prove other side wrong. We can't solve it on its current level.

I think I have plenty of information to show that I'm right. Vod is accusing me of deleting questions from my thread to avoid answering them as the basis for his negative feedback. I simply responded with what question have a deleted or avoided answering in any way.

Vod  responded with "...". Oh ya, wait, this is what Vod will not respond to. If anyone has avoided answering questions, it's Vod.

The guy has ruined my account and lied about his reasoning for doing it. I opened this thread, which is not moderated to hash out his justification for doing that. I asked the most simple question of all: Can you provide one example of me doing what you're claiming for the basis of your scam accusation?

So far, he has not done so. The reason he has not done so, is because I have not done it, period. He did make replies after asking him this question but completely avoided answering that or touching on it in any way. When sending him a PM about it, he blocked me.

To me that clearly demonstrates that this guy is abusive, untrustworthy and on an ego trip.

Why in the hell would you people endorse a guy like that? If he's doing it to me, you can be sure I'm not his first innocent victim. I am however, not one to take something like this sitting down and I won't just sit idle and let him get away with it.
147  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 03:18:49 PM
Banks take complaints about their employees VERY seriously. Your efforts would not be wasted here. The fact that he's conducting malicious activity and fighting with / libeling so many people online is going to get him in to a world of shit at this job.

If you want some real payback against Martin's attacks, write a letter or put in a call to his employer ASAP. I know I am.
148  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 01:33:24 PM
Why do you have a grudge against Vod? Is it just because he left you negative trust?
That is correct. Vod, you used to be cool, before you went on a power trip Smiley


You are trying to win a war...  But instead, you're just making yourself look bad.
Could you at least provide a "reasonable" reason for doxxing Vod? 

I could give you several. This guy Vod left me (a legit and honest full member of this community) negative trust rating for no reason. He in fact made up a lie about me that he's unwilling to explain to anyone which is the basis of his negative trust rating. Vod goes around ruining peoples accounts, has a very quick temper and an ego that would rival the worst rookie cop you've ever heard of. He's really let this whole bitcointalk sheriff shit go to his head. He may have helped some people from not getting scammed but in that dragnet he's also gotten innocent people. The worst part is that when he is wrong he is totally unwilling to fix it or offer any explanation for it.

I fully support this, let me know if I can help in any way. This guy really needs a reality check. If he wants to be the bitcointalk sheriff he needs to do with some responsibility and accountability when he's wrong.

Any news from this story ?

With regard to me, Vod aka Martin Lawrence, is unwilling to offer up any explanation to his accusations. In fact he is increasing the severity of the lies the more I post about what he's done to me. Rather than removing his feedback he's modified it to sound worse because I've been persistent asking him to give an explanation. Since he's taken the liberty to ruin my account and completely bash my thread for no reason, I've decided to follow him around the forum and do the same back to him.

I also plan to contact his employer and let them know that he's harassing people in his free time as well as rally others to do the same. He made me his hobby, I'm going to do the same to him in return. This guy needs to understand that when he attacks innocent people, he's going to get attacked back.

Servus Credit Union Ltd. Corporate Mailing Address
151 Karl Clark Road NW
Edmonton, AB
T6N 1H5

I encourage all of his victims to contact his employer and file a complaint.


187SERVUSCU
149  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 21, 2014, 01:14:02 PM
Why do you have a grudge against Vod? Is it just because he left you negative trust?
That is correct. Vod, you used to be cool, before you went on a power trip Smiley


You are trying to win a war...  But instead, you're just making yourself look bad.
Could you at least provide a "reasonable" reason for doxxing Vod? 

I could give you several. This guy Vod left me (a legit and honest full member of this community) negative trust rating for no reason. He in fact made up a lie about me that he's unwilling to explain to anyone which is the basis of his negative trust rating. Vod goes around ruining peoples accounts, has a very quick temper and an ego that would rival the worst rookie cop you've ever heard of. He's really let this whole bitcointalk sheriff shit go to his head. He may have helped some people from not getting scammed but in that dragnet he's also gotten innocent people. The worst part is that when he is wrong he is totally unwilling to fix it or offer any explanation for it.

I fully support this, let me know if I can help in any way. This guy really needs a reality check. If he wants to be the bitcointalk sheriff he needs to do with some responsibility and accountability when he's wrong.
150  Other / Meta / Re: Little help with an abusive member: Vod - Self Proclaimed forum admin on: July 21, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
I've said it many times - I only have the one account.    Smiley

It doesn't appear that way, I'm not the only one saying it.

Yes you are, liar.   Roll Eyes  

I'm not sure why you are trying to convince others I have alts but I assume it's for your future scam attempts.  Stop with the PM threats.

If anyone receives a PM from another user claiming to be my alt, consider them to be scamming and do enter into any deal.  I have no alts.



The whole basis of his negative trust rating was that I was deleting questions from my thread to avoid answering them (go see his negative trust rating on me, it states specifically "Running scam asking for 700btc and deleting any questions asked (moderation)". Yet I have never deleted a single question). I have asked him for an example of this several times because it was baffling me why he would have done this in the first place since I knew I had never done what he was claiming. When sending him a PM asking him to explain it, he blocked me.

He is still yet to explain what question I deleted and what it is that I was avoiding which is the basis for his original negative trust rating that started all of this. The reason he's not explaining it is because there never was anything and it's just something he made up.

Do you guys really want a guy like that acting as the self proclaimed sheriff, making up lies about the people he is persecuting? It's great if he has helped some people avoid being scammed but what I am pointing out here is that he's also attacking people that have never tried scamming anyone and he's also lying and has no integrity. That seems like a person to me that you DO NOT want acting in that capacity. Please, please feel free to have a look for yourself. I haven't deleted any of his BS from my thread. Everything he's said about me so far is 100% false and he's unwilling to give any explanation in this thread or that one.

If anyone receives a PM from another user claiming to be my alt, consider them to be scamming and do enter into any deal.  I have no alts.

Not sure why he'd bother posting this either. This guy has never done a single 'deal' on this forum to gain any feedback (unlike me and others he's giving negative ratings to). He's not gained even 1 trust rating by taking any risk or doing any trades here. All of his feedback is just blindly been given to him by users thinking or assuming he's some 'good guy' doing proactive scam prevention work here on the forum. Let me tell you, that is not all he does. He also uses this trust he's been given very abusively and unfairly on others, ruining their accounts without good reason.
151  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:55:43 AM
escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster. Smiley
KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.



NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.


And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out.
Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you.



First of all, in my case, the damage is done. That's like saying dont get mad because your car was totaled and some drunk guy crashed in to you. If you wouldn't get mad, your car would magically repair itself. I'm venting my frustration because the damage is done and he's ruined my account for trading here and for no good reason at all.

I'm providing an example of how a single mixed up person can undermine the whole trust system by simply soliciting positive trust from the inner circle.

My only mission now is to try to put a stop to his ability to do this to other people and prevent other honest and legitimate traders here from having to be unfairly judged by him and his jaded logic. I've only had positive actual trades here, been above board with everyone, answered everyone's questions in my thread and even was perfectly willing to have meetings, phone conversations or meet in person with investors to present my deck.
152  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:48:02 AM
I agree that the trust system is incredibly flawed.

When someone that's never done a trade or been trusted with anything can go around ruining the reputation of people that have done actual trades with other people (like my scenario) or never done a trade with me in any way just because he's gotten some BS positives from people in 'the circle', there's some big flaws.

This jerk gave me a negative trust rating that wasn't even based on anything, go look at his reasoning... He claims it's because I 'may' delete some of his comments (which I never did) and that I was paying myself some salary in my proposed investment scenario (which was never stated). He is leaving me a negative trust rating which devastates my bitcointalk account and any chance at getting investor cooperation because the first thing they are going to see is a big red negative from some guy that's unfairly judged me based on 0 factual information.

How could anyone support this guy and his actions...?
153  Other / Meta / Re: Little help with an abusive member: Vod - Self Proclaimed forum admin on: July 21, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
I have just found evidence that the guy is using multiple accounts to manipulate people with. So I don't think he's all that trust worthy. Please see the original post in the topic.

I trust him about as much as I trust one of those people that really want to be a Cop so bad but they can't pass the sanity test and get rejected and go become a security guard somewhere and annoy people.

I've said it many times - I only have the one account.    Smiley

Do you use the same logic and judgement in your 700btc business dealings?

It doesn't appear that way, I'm not the only one saying it.

Also, you've given me negative trust for no reason, so that says a lot about you. You're the one that's created all of this. My guess is that you like the attention.
154  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:24:12 AM
Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

100% agree, especially in this  case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff.
155  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:21:51 AM
Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

That means I'm making a difference here.

It takes 10 seconds to create a throw away account and post negative feedback on me - that is why it is "untrusted" feedback.   People have been creating throw away accounts calling me a paedophile, incestuous, faggot, etc.  Obviously I put a dent in these people's scams.


You are deluded. Extremely deluded.
There's plenty that say "picking on newbies", "bullying", "offering loans to newbies so he gave me negative trust"

Most of your trust ratings are red. And they're from ALLLLLLLLLL sorts of members, not just "newbie/alt accounts"

You've reviewed it all, you've come to the conclusion I am untrustworthy and you have left me negative trust.  The system works!   Smiley

I left YOU (that account) negative trust because you left me negative trust for no good reason. That's exactly what it says.

Maybe you were referring to your other account rarkenin, I left that one negative trust because you accidentally posted negative on that one in my rep thread when you meant do to it on Vod. Ooups.... Caught red handed?
156  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:14:06 AM
Guys,

Go take a look at the negative feedback that rarkenin has been leaving for people (seems to be doing the exact same thing Vod is) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Then go look at who Vod left them for, see anything funny?

Looks like we're dealing with a guy using multiple accounts. So a guy  trying to be the 'Trust' authority is using deceptive means of influencing people.... I think HE is the only person that NO one should trust here. Please, look for yourself.

I found it odd that the dude was grilling me and not saying anything about Vod, now I know why.
157  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:04:54 AM
Isn't your thread title also a bit attention-seeking?

The purpose of my thread was to seek attention of investors. His purpose is to hijack that attention to himself.

Starting to feel like you're just trolling me here with lame comments like this.
158  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 01:03:00 AM
So far everyone agrees that your feedback and wrong, undeserved and abusive.

You reading the same thread I am?  I don't see that at all.

Anyway, thank you for showing everyone how you would react should things not go the way you plan in this business.  You are an immature hothead who has probably never run a company in his life.  You can delete these messages now.   Wink

I made a thread on you directly in the general forum, regarding your abuse of the trust system. This is what I'm referring to. Perhaps you should go read it.

I did.  You claim EVERYONE AGREES THAT MY FEEDBACK IS WRONG.  So I'll ask again, are you reading the thread yourself?   Roll Eyes

Yep, the people that have replied there are saying it's wrong and I was wrong for retaliating and leaving you multiple negatives. So I took their advice, removed them and just left one simple rating that simply says it's being left because you're abusing the Trust system and have left me a negative trust rating inappropriately. That is 100% accurate and true and I don't think I need to remove that as long as you continue to leave me the inappropriate negative. So I'll be seeking the assistance of the community based on that. I'm sure some people will help me once they read through what you've been doing.


Actually, no, I would agree that your actions so far only reflect badly on you. This crowdfund, your "professional language", and retaliatory trust. Instead of removing the improper trust feedback you sent, I would have just not added it in the first place.

You are a full member, I would expect that you know the rules here. Unfortunately, as you've shown, you either don't, or you disregard them.

I'm quite certain if someone was on a mission to destroy something you were passionate about, your attitude would be much different. I admit reacting in anger, most would. I admit that I did it and I then corrected that to what I feel is an appropriate response.

I am however curious why you're just picking at me here and not the actual person who started this whole circle. I did nothing but answer his questions previous to this and threat him with respect. He just out of no where came back accusing me of being dishonest for no legit reason and out of no where. So the guy either has some severe mental disabilities or he's drunk. Either way, I'd like to hear your feedback on that side of things, since you've already clearly stated your disappointment with how I reacted to him.
159  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 12:57:15 AM
Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.

Nice guess, but if I rated a single person with negative trust that didn't deserve it, the people who have trusted me would remove it.  The system is self correcting.  I only have the trust I do because I always do the right thing.

Buddy, you said it yourself, you only gave me a negative rating because you were afraid you wouldn't get attention or that your posts MAY get deleted (not that any had).

You also based your negative rating on something that I never even stated about paying myself some salary. That conversation doesn't even exist in any thread or comment, deleted or not... Yet you have failed to address it in any way.

I think you use your trust rating as a way to demand attention and you masquerade as some do-gooder that's revealing scams.

I've never scammed anyone in my life and never intend to. If I did, there would be FAR easier ways to do it. If I wanted to take some money and run, I'd probably make this deal far more juicy wouldn't I? Maybe just take like 2% of the equity for myself and only be looking for a 20k investment.... that's more indicative of a scammer, not someone that has obvious pride and confidence in their business and is by no means willing to part with it's equity for peanuts.

You're nothing more than an attention whore Vod.
160  Economy / Lending / Re: [Crowd Fund] Looking for investors, Awesome Bitcoin game - Monthly Distribution on: July 21, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
So far everyone agrees that your feedback and wrong, undeserved and abusive.

You reading the same thread I am?  I don't see that at all.

Anyway, thank you for showing everyone how you would react should things not go the way you plan in this business.  You are an immature hothead who has probably never run a company in his life.  You can delete these messages now.   Wink

I made a thread on you directly in the general forum, regarding your abuse of the trust system. This is what I'm referring to. Perhaps you should go read it.

I did.  You claim EVERYONE AGREES THAT MY FEEDBACK IS WRONG.  So I'll ask again, are you reading the thread yourself?   Roll Eyes

Yep, the people that have replied there are saying it's wrong and I was wrong for retaliating and leaving you multiple negatives. So I took their advice, removed them and just left one simple rating that simply says it's being left because you're abusing the Trust system and have left me a negative trust rating inappropriately. That is 100% accurate and true and I don't think I need to remove that as long as you continue to leave me the inappropriate negative. So I'll be seeking the assistance of the community based on that. I'm sure some people will help me once they read through what you've been doing.
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