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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
Interesting article that picks apart the BAML $1300 analysis.      Overall positive in that they say Bitcoin is not a crazy investment Smiley

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/aaron-brown-can-a-value-investor-buy-a-bitcoin-cm310791

142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2013, 03:46:09 AM
Looks like the dragon is going to dance with 6k again.
143  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to Recognize a Bubble (for the stock market.... see any similarities?) on: December 11, 2013, 01:43:32 AM
Let's all try to post a witty remark about the bubble anatomy chart.

Fresh out of wit, I am trying though.   Check my post on the godislove thread...   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364761.msg3912114#msg3912114

I was laughing the entire time.   No love for the joke on the thread though. Has no one seen fight club?
144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2013, 01:30:06 AM
Has BTCChina been down? Didn't notice my ticker has been frozen for like an hour....

Tickin away on my screen
WTF lol..... frozen on bitcoinity AND bitcoinwisdom for me for an hour.... what gives....

The NSA has frozen your account
145  Economy / Economics / Re: Slippery Slope's Million Dollar Logistic Model on: December 11, 2013, 01:28:26 AM
I think we are closer to the stage of Winmo.     Lots of fragmented approaches etc...    Either innovators or early adopters is my guess.   Agree that "speculators" are pretty heavily engaged already.   I wonder how many of them there are?

For adopting the technology the mobile phone chart seems to indicate 10 years or so till we get to laggard adopters and the curve begins to settle.   We have a long way to go!



Interestingly, the technology of smartphone apps enables a much faster adoption than that of the hardware smartphone.

An well funded app, launching on iOS and Android, can swiftly be adopted, e.g. Google Maps - months to full adoption, not 10 years, which is relevant provided point-of-sale devices are upgraded.

Excellent point.   I stand corrected, software can move much faster.   POS updates (at scale) can be remarkably slow though so perhaps a counter balance is there.
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2013, 01:22:48 AM
Has BTCChina been down? Didn't notice my ticker has been frozen for like an hour....

Tickin away on my screen
147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin be surpassed in value by an alternate cryptocurrency and when? on: December 11, 2013, 01:21:25 AM
I'm right there with you for most of that.  But I still feel safer having Litecoin around and indeed encouraging the existence of alt coins - especially if they'll innovate further and especially if they'll improve/increase resilience.  

I guess I'm just trying to dispel the notion that "alt coins should go away and stop stealing Bitcoin's market share."  

I don't think that's something you've been saying in any way but it is an argument I see put out there and am keen to counter it with the simple notion that competition is healthy.  Smiley

edit:
I completely agree with your 'bio-diversity' concerns and think you've made the point here very well.  But Bitcoin can't really experiment with its architecture any more as too much value is vested in both the coins and the network.  Litecoin et al can still do that and could very well end up introducing the kind of 'bio-diversity' that we'd both welcome with open arms. Smiley

Bio-diversity is good.  In fact, it is also good in Bitcoin space and we should welcome attempts to write completely Bitcoin compatible clients/servers/miners from the ground up.

148  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to Recognize a Bubble (for the stock market.... see any similarities?) on: December 11, 2013, 01:10:37 AM
I think there's a chart knocking about somewhere which shows the anatomy of a bubble...

could you post it please, never saw that one?  Grin

Can confirm, never seen the anatomy of a bubble chart on here or reddit.
Oh yes, have never seen a bubble anatomy chart..... every day.   Roll Eyes
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: will high value wallets eventually be targeted and cracked? on: December 11, 2013, 12:44:57 AM


I love that picture
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to Recognize a Bubble (for the stock market.... see any similarities?) on: December 11, 2013, 12:39:00 AM
Bitcoin is not Speculation-proof. Even though it may have value, people can still put unrealistic expectations on Bitcoin.

+1
151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Got a bitcoin price prediction for 2014? on: December 11, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
Between $7000 and $8000 by the end of the year.

Bit tooooo optimistic. I say 10500

FTFY Smiley
152  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to Recognize a Bubble (for the stock market.... see any similarities?) on: December 11, 2013, 12:21:22 AM
http://www.solerinvestments.com/Online-Trading/Stock-Market-Crash.htm

Quote
How Bubbles Grow: 12 Easy Steps

1. A believable concept offers a revolutionary and unlimited path to growth.
2. Surplus of funds and lack of opportunities lead to buying or investing in anything available.
3. An idea is complex and cannot be totally explained or related to an investor.
4. The crowd imitates the leader. All Aboard! Even the gardener has a tip!?
5. Prices fluctuate from traditional level to overvalued level, THEN to all new ground and all time highs.
6. New levels are sanctioned by experts. "We are in a new Paradigm!"
7. Fear of missing the boat takes over. Cloning of the idea occurs as many new overvalued competitors enter the market.
8. Lending practices are eased. Money flows like water to anything or anyone with a new idea.
9. Cult figures emerge for the new paradigm. The media promotes lifestyles, not substance.
10. The Bubble lasts longer than expected. Critics are dismissed. The last suckers are sucked in.
11. Fraud emerges as partly responsible for the bubble as the first cracks show in the bubble.
12. Finally, everyone has a reason why it cannot continue. But nobody dumps, and all hold onto their profits. No new buyers. Market stalls.

I found that very interesting.

Some of you might too.

Interesting, Ibian has a point that this is not a stock in the sense that unlimited supplies are available etc...    I think it falls down at least in point 3 and 1.
153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 11:51:44 PM
24 hour trading cycle.   How is it possible to sleep when the exchanges are taking turns popping every 8 hours?

Buy and hold  Wink

Oh, I do, I do.   Still hard to resist you know?
154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 11:48:27 PM
24 hour trading cycle.   How is it possible to sleep when the exchanges are taking turns popping every 8 hours?
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 11:47:35 PM
6060
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 11:40:29 PM
Grin

you bunch of dirty hippies
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 11:36:52 PM
China 6k wall getting smaller Smiley   Good morning China!
158  Economy / Economics / Re: Slippery Slope's Million Dollar Logistic Model on: December 10, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
I think we are closer to the stage of Winmo.     Lots of fragmented approaches etc...    Either innovators or early adopters is my guess.   Agree that "speculators" are pretty heavily engaged already.   I wonder how many of them there are?

For adopting the technology the mobile phone chart seems to indicate 10 years or so till we get to laggard adopters and the curve begins to settle.   We have a long way to go!

159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Anyone Watch Bobby Lee on CNBC?! on: December 10, 2013, 10:45:01 PM
Just watched.   Poor editing for sure.   He seems like an okay guy.    Always tough to be interviewed and he may not be used to it.
160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 10:33:55 PM
China going to crack 6k.
Stabilizing around 1030- What a downer.


Lol, price moves a couple hundred USD in 24 hours.   Bitcoiners are bored Smiley.    100s aren't cool.   you know whats cool?   thousands!

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