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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: August 05, 2014, 05:38:03 AM
The fan logo looks like a pair of Y-fronts  Smiley

I like the cube logo though, and the colours are good

Had to google what y-fronts are, never heard of this term. Now all I see is mens underwear. Shocked
It would be hilarious if we found one in tri-color!
http://www.coatsindustrial.com/en/images/Illustration-Underwear-Y-fronts_tcm35-8824.jpg


Prototype of fan-briefs.


 Grin Grin Grin

How funny, we may have performed our own kind of Rorschach test.
A committee could not possibly see the fan logo=quark logo=underwear=phallus=praying mantis head=who knows what else.
This is exactly why NEM's symbol should be vetted and chosen in a decentralized way.



All NEM members, please vote!

Inactive members (lurkers this means you!), take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes soon
Logo vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg8163582#msg8163582

Follow the Voting procedure:
Every voting stakeholder will have to send a PM to both rockethead and kodtycoon specifying the chosen option(i.e. "option 1" or "option 2").

Fan voters guide:
Send a PM
To: "rockethead", "kodtycoon"
Subject: Logo vote
Message: option 1

Cube voters guide:
Send a PM
To: "rockethead", "kodtycoon"
Subject: Logo vote
Message: option 2

My campaign for the Cube logo.
=====================================================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
=====================================================================

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.






Bump.
Login and vote. Voting is about to end.
Logo vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg8163582#msg8163582
142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion] on: August 05, 2014, 05:28:32 AM
Some observations of the new logo candidate.

It is too similar to the Quark logo.



http://www.qrk.cc/quarkbrand/

It also resembles the triskelion logo of Ripple.



https://dev.ripple.com/img/ripple-triskelion.png

tris·kel·i·on [trih-skel-ee-on] noun, a symbolic figure consisting of three legs, arms, or branches radiating from a common center.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

The new logo explanation says: "Decentralization of NEM is represented by 3 lines coming from the centre."

By using the word centre, it implies centralized. Ideally a logo that represents decentralization will not have a center.


The 3 radial lines represents the centralized characteristics of a star network (hub-and-spoke).

Another sentence in the new logo explanation says: "Imagine this is a fan, it can spin...".

A spinning fan is another circular reference and demonstrates this centralized nature.

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.





The cube represents the decentralized and distributed characteristics of a mesh network (peer-to-peer).



I will not re-quote my previous post, but if you are curious why I believe the cube is better at representing NEM, read this:

Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767

Loi does very good work and his new design is big improvement over the tomoe, but the cube better represents NEM.



My vote will be for Loi's cube design.

Bump.
Login and vote. Voting is about to end.
Logo vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg8163582#msg8163582
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: August 05, 2014, 05:26:48 AM
I think the fan logo looks great. The three parts united into one also hides the secret of how POI is calculated Wink

The same goes for the cube logo.
All six attributes of NEM the devs wish to incorporate can be done using the cube.
The 6 faces of the cube represents the 3 exoteric ideals and the 3 esoteric ideas of NEM.
The 3 key ideals are financial freedom, decentralization, and equality of opportunity. Plus the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.
A hexagon has 6 edges, relating to the 3 key ideals and the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.
A hexagon has 6 vertices, again relating to the 3 key ideals and the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.
A hexagon can also be created from two equilateral triangles, one triangle representing NEM's 3 key ideals and the other the 3 components of PoI.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: August 04, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
The fan logo looks like a pair of Y-fronts  Smiley

I like the cube logo though, and the colours are good

Had to google what y-fronts are, never heard of this term. Now all I see is mens underwear. Shocked
It would be hilarious if we found one in tri-color!
http://www.coatsindustrial.com/en/images/Illustration-Underwear-Y-fronts_tcm35-8824.jpg


Prototype of fan-briefs.


 Grin Grin Grin

How funny, we may have performed our own kind of Rorschach test.
A committee could not possibly see the fan logo=quark logo=underwear=phallus=praying mantis head=who knows what else.
This is exactly why NEM's symbol should be vetted and chosen in a decentralized way.



All NEM members, please vote!

Inactive members (lurkers this means you!), take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes soon
Logo vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg8163582#msg8163582

Follow the Voting procedure:
Every voting stakeholder will have to send a PM to both rockethead and kodtycoon specifying the chosen option(i.e. "option 1" or "option 2").

Fan voters guide:
Send a PM
To: "rockethead", "kodtycoon"
Subject: Logo vote
Message: option 1

Cube voters guide:
Send a PM
To: "rockethead", "kodtycoon"
Subject: Logo vote
Message: option 2

My campaign for the Cube logo.
=====================================================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
=====================================================================

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.




145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: July 31, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Logo voting has been closed due to high spamming alert.

We will post some updates later as to how we will proceed forward.


Voting on the forum was prone to rigging.
A fair and transparent way would be to vote by PM, with only the NEM account holders eligable to vote and the results logged to our Google spreadsheet.
This is a little more work, but is verifiable to all parties. It will prevent the outcome from being being disputed in the future and will also show all the active
members and lurkers. Use the NEM newsletter and PM to inform all members.
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion] on: July 31, 2014, 03:01:21 AM



All NEM members, please register and vote!

Inactive members, take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes: August 01, 2014, 06:38:44 AM
Official NEM Logo Vote
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.15

My campaign for the Cube logo.
=====================================================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
=====================================================================

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.




Voting closes: August 01, 2014, 06:38:44 AM
Official NEM Logo Vote
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.15
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] Logo Community Voting on: July 31, 2014, 02:54:19 AM


All NEM members, please register and vote!

Inactive members, take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes: August 01, 2014, 06:38:44 AM
Official NEM Logo Vote
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.15

My campaign for the Cube logo.
=====================================================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
=====================================================================

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.


148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion] on: July 27, 2014, 03:57:46 AM



All NEM members, please register and vote!

Inactive members, take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes: August 01, 2014, 06:38:44 AM
Official NEM Logo Vote
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.15

My campaign for the Cube logo.
=====================================================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
=====================================================================

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.


149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion] on: July 24, 2014, 01:19:52 AM
[NOT THIS @!&# AGAIN]

I hope you were being sarcastic, if not why do you think that?

I believe the symbol we choose for NEM is very important and it is beneficial to discuss all the pros and cons before the final vote.
The devs are putting a lot of time into designing, coding and thoroughly testing the software and We the community should put some
effort into selecting the best logo for NEM.

In my opinion, the cube meets all the criteria for being the perfect logo for NEM.
The cube is: unique, attractive, simple and reflects the decentralized nature of the New Economy Movement.

NEM stakeholders, campaign for the logo you like and please share your thoughts and opinions why it should be selected.
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion] on: July 23, 2014, 10:59:29 PM
Some observations of the new logo candidate.

It is too similar to the Quark logo.



http://www.qrk.cc/quarkbrand/

It also resembles the triskelion logo of Ripple.



https://dev.ripple.com/img/ripple-triskelion.png

tris·kel·i·on [trih-skel-ee-on] noun, a symbolic figure consisting of three legs, arms, or branches radiating from a common center.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

The new logo explanation says: "Decentralization of NEM is represented by 3 lines coming from the centre."

By using the word centre, it implies centralized. Ideally a logo that represents decentralization will not have a center.


The 3 radial lines represents the centralized characteristics of a star network (hub-and-spoke).

Another sentence in the new logo explanation says: "Imagine this is a fan, it can spin...".

A spinning fan is another circular reference and demonstrates this centralized nature.

The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.





The cube represents the decentralized and distributed characteristics of a mesh network (peer-to-peer).



I will not re-quote my previous post, but if you are curious why I believe the cube is better at representing NEM, read this:

Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767

Loi does very good work and his new design is big improvement over the tomoe, but the cube better represents NEM.



My vote will be for Loi's cube design.
151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: July 12, 2014, 04:58:49 PM
No one talked about the Ethereum.

This is other generation of coin. Mine directly from wallet, uses CPU.

There are others details.

https://github.com/ethereum

 Wink
no one cares for ethereum any more. They will be obsolete before they even get off the ground.

Ps. Standing in a bank, in a 10 person long queue to send 70 Euro to portagul cos online takes 2-3 days. Let's hurry this stuff up I can't stick this archaic system anymore lol

Ethereum was another get rich quick scheme, which awards almost everything to a select few like Bitshares, NXT etc. So far only Counterparty and NEM has shown to be widely distributed and above board.

Other generation of coin lol. It will be a forgotten generation soon.

I'm not sure I would agree with that. Ethereum has yet to prove what it's made of.

The signals I have seen until now are quite intriguing. So I'm curious how they'll turn out in the long run.

P.S. I was surprised when the other day I saw Ashton Kutcher(Celebrity actor, turned tech angel investor) tweet about ethereum. Just for the record, he has 16.3 million followers. These are the kind of people we need to target and find a way to bring on board.

You can target Ashton Kutcher or any other person using relationship mapping.
Relationship Science https://www.relsci.com/ has a tool that shows the connection paths between any two people.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/201404/greg-lindsay/relsci-helps-businesses-build-relationships.html
152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: July 08, 2014, 06:07:15 AM

===========================================
Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
===========================================

It is not difficult to see that the cube logo also looks like a network graph.
The cube symbolizes the decentralized network of the NEM cloud, the 8 corners representing the nodes and the 12 edges representing the links.

The cube is a perfect symbol for NEM. All six attributes of NEM the devs wish to incorporate can be done using the cube.
The 6 faces of the cube represents the 3 exoteric ideals and the 3 esoteric ideas of NEM.
The 3 key ideals are financial freedom, decentralization, and equality of opportunity. Plus the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.


The cube represents the decentralized and distributed characteristics of a mesh network (peer-to-peer).


All 3 letters of NEM are incorporated into the symbol and are easily identified.

Bitcoin's blockchain has a 2-dimensional quality and can be visualized a sequence of squares. NEM's blockchain, because of it's advanced features
(asset exchange, messaging, games, apps built upon the blockchain, etc) has a 3-dimensional quality can be visualized a sequence of actual blocks.
When we harvest with the client we are processing blocks (cubes).

The cube also has more marketing possibilities than a two-dimensional circle. It has additional surfaces for text and graphics. A hanging mobile can
be constructed for kinetic art advertising. A model can be produced from a 3d printer. The cube is relatively free of the historical and religious
references that plague the tomoe.

Through the centuries, our economy has gone through different phases. We have shifted from an agricultural economy to an industrial one and now
to an information economy. NEM will be part of this economic evolution and if we view NEM as the successor to Bitcoin, our logo should also reflect
this shift away from the industrialized banking system and away from the circular form of world coinage.



These paradigm shifts can be represented as dimensions in space. A point extended becomes a line, the line extended becomes a plane and the
plane extended becomes a solid. Each shift is followed by exponential growth.
0-dimensional, 2^0=1 vertices= point, agrarian, trade based economy
1-dimensional, 2^1=2 vertices= line, banking, fiat based economy
2-dimensional, 2^2=4 vertices= square, digital currency-inefficient PoW, Bitcoin 1.0, logo is a flat circle
3-dimensional, 2^3=8 vertices= cube, digital currency-efficient PoI, NEM 2.0, logo is a solid 3d cube
4-dimensional, 2^4=16 vertices= tesseract, digital currency-a future 3.0 crypto

We should not use the circle just because it has universally been the ideal shape. It all depends on the application.

As an example, even though the circle is the most efficient shape for a room (it encloses the maximum possible area for a given perimeter of wall) it
is not a good choice for the shape of rooms within a house. Wasted gaps of space would be left between the circular rooms.

Another example can be found in nature, the circle would not be the best shape for a bee cell. Space between the circles would be wasted, whereas
the hexagonal structure of a honeycomb shares all its adjacent sides without any gaps. Bees use hexagonal honeycombs for storage because
hexagons more efficient to construct, the structure ensures that bees fill the volume efficiently yet limit the total wall area of the cells. A given
hexagon has the most area inside for the length of its sides.

Hexagons are the most efficient way to divide up a flat plane. The curve of a geodesic dome structure is easier to produce from hexagons. Solar
panel arrays benefit from the area-to-perimeter ratio of a hexagon. The antenna tower sites for cellular phones are also configured in a hexagonal
grid.


The geometric efficiency of the honeycomb makes optimal use of space, similarly, NEM's PoI is more efficient than Bitcoin's PoW.

The cube (hexahedron) is related to the hexagon. NEM's cube logo is actually an orthographic projection of a cube. When rendered in two
dimensions it is a flat hexagon.

The cube is one of the 5 platonic solids. All five platonic solids have either three-sided faces or three-way vertices.
tetrahedron,4,6,4 (vertices,edges,faces)
octahedron,6,12,8
cube,8,12,6
icosahedron,12,30,20
dodecahedron,20,30,12


When orthographically projected, only the hexagon conforms to the symmetries of all five platonic solids.



A hexagon has 6 edges, relating to the 3 key ideals and the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.
A hexagon has 6 vertices, again relating to the 3 key ideals and the 3 secret components in the PoI algorithm.
A hexagon can also be created from two equilateral triangles, one triangle representing NEM's 3 key ideals and the other the 3 components of PoI.
Also one triangle could represent the NEM cloud and the other the physical hardware of the network.

The number six also ties in with the idea of six degrees of separation or the small world theory, that there is no more than six degrees of separation
between any two people in the world. Several studies using internet messages have found that the average network path length was 6. If it is not a
security risk, displaying the average network path length would be a interesting feature. It would be a status of the inner workings of PoI. Over time
we could see if NEM's x degrees of separation agrees with the small world theory.

All life on earth is carbon based. The carbon atom has 6 protons in its nucleus and forms hexagonal molecules. The 3-dimensional hexagonal
structure is the reason that diamond is so strong. Graphene and carbon nanotubes are two of the new super materials. In the future these carbon
molecules may replace silicon based semiconductors. Graphene is one of the strongest and thinnest materials, it is a single layer of carbon atoms
arranged in a hexagonal lattice. The line segments in a hexagonal lattice converge at 120 degree angles, this distributes the load evenly and
prevents shearing. Carbon nanotubes are the strongest and stiffest materials yet discovered, it is a single layer of carbon atoms arranged in a
cylindrical form.


Graphene is strong and secure just like the strengh of NEM's community and NEM's algorithm.

The water molecules in an ice crystal form a hexagonal lattice, this is what gives the six-fold symmetry to a snow crystals.


Snowflakes are unique, just like NEM.

One of the unsolved problems in number theory is that it is not known whether an infinitely many perfect numbers exist.
6 is the first perfect number. The sum of it's proper divisors 1+2+3 equals 6 and half the sum of all its divisors (1+2+3+6)/2 equals 6.
3 factorial is 6. (3!= 1*2*3 = 6).
Six is the only number that is both the sum and the product of three consecutive positive numbers.

A few religious and superstitious viewpoints. Please ignore.
In Buddhism the Wheel of Life, the Samsara has 6 planes of existence, also there are the six Perfections. Confucianism has 6 canons of ethical
teachings. In Islam there are 6 articles of belief. In Judaism there 6 points on a Star of David, also the diagram of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life is
hexagonal. According to creation story of Judaism and Christianity, the world was created in 6 days. The Christian scholar Augustine of Hippo
suggested that God could have created the world in an instant but chose to to do it in six days because 6 is a perfect number. There are 6 cardinal
directions: north, south, east, west, up and down. The shell of turtles are hexagonal and in traditional Japanese beliefs, the turtle symbolizes good
luck. In Chinese culture the number 6 represents wealth and is considered good for business. The number 8 (a cube has 8 corners) is also an
auspicious number and is considered very lucky.

=================================
Reasons for Rejecting the Tomoe Symbol.
=================================

From reading the posts, the tomoe is very polarizing, people either love it or hate it. For this reason alone, using it as our brand should be
thoroughly questioned and not be taken lightly.

It is apparent the devs like the tomoe. I highly respect the work of all of our developers (the NEM Community Client looks great!) and appreciate their
efforts at wanting to design a bold and meaningful symbol for NEM. This is only my opinion, 100% logo and nothing personal.

The NEMlogo_v7_explanation.pdf seemed contrived.

Displaying the two other logos with arrows pointing to the official logo looked like a weak attempt at demonstrating the logo progression. Those
were two different logos, it did not make sense.

I did not like some sentences in the logo explanation, the "Man, Earth and Sky" and the "Feng Shui" parts just sounded too new age and hippy-
dippy. NEM will be taken more seriously if the explanation is professional and uses modern technical terms, not some nebulous concepts from
Eastern or Western thought.

The text "Inner ring is split into three parts, representing an E; sides represent the N in NEM." and "Tomoe, with three parts suggesting an M": it is a
real stretch to attribute these elements to the N,E,M characters. It was too abstract, just as one can suggest any three elements of any trinity can
represent any three characters.

The "Base unit of measurement" text and the overlay of radial lines gives the impression that it was designed with exact angles and ratios. The
radial lines unintentionally demonstrate the centralized nature of the circle also the white space in the tomoe forms the three spokes of a triskelion.


The tomoe represents the centralized characteristics of a ring or star network (hub-and-spoke).

When I see the tomoe, the first words that enters my mind is ancient and religious. I think many others will have the same first impression. We need
a symbol that is attractive, modern and technical.

In most cultures, the circle has been a symbol of harmony and unity. It is especially significant In the Eastern cultures, but let's not get too attached
on using it. The majority of cryptos use a circle as their coin and only a very small fraction use the triangle, square or hexagon. NEM is more than
just a coin, we should break from tradition and go with something non-circular.

Another minor reason for not using the tomoe is that some conservative Christians are suspicious of any associations with Eastern symbols or the
number 666.

"Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666." -Revelation
13:18 (NKJV)

Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia is the irrational fear of the number 666.
US highway 666 was renumbered because the number 666 carries the stigma of being the mark of the devil.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us666.cfm

"When President Reagan left office, he and Nancy took up residence at 666 St. Cloud Road in Bel-Air but had the address changed to 668 to avoid
the number of the beast." -Los Angeles Times, May 21, 2011

The Japanese mitsudomoe, Pax Cultura banner, Tibetan gankyil, Korean sam-taegeuk, Chinese taijitu and even the volleyball are symbols we should
avoid. The mitsudomoe was used by the Ryukyu Kingdom in Japan, it also looks like 3 spermatozoa or 3 tadpoles or 666.



153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] Logo Community Voting on: June 29, 2014, 02:28:41 PM



The currency symbol and logo/symbol don't have to be the same. Smiley

A symbol is a symbol without text. It should embody the ideals of the movement. The logo should have text at first, so we can build our brand. It should incorporate the symbol somehow.

For a symbol, I think tomoe is good, but I am playing around with some other ideas, like describing the POI algorithm graphically in the symbol. Here is one idea (just a sketch at this point; this shows that different accounts have different importances):



Now that is unique. It looks like a crop circle!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle
http://www.cropcirclelogos.com/

But... it is too complex and at a distance it is too similar to the logos of Ripple and Quark.
154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 29, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
NEM is accepted at all tollways!




Seriously, lets choose a better design.

I like the blue one. Without the text.

Just to be clear, I don't like the tomoe, the design is too similar to the well known USDOT.
It would be like using Apple's logo but with the bite taken on the left instead of the right side.
Pepsi, Mercedes, Microsoft etc all use simple shapes and yet they are unique among the thousands of others.
155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] Logo Community Voting on: June 29, 2014, 01:29:07 AM
Hi all, i just want to ask how to vote? On the logo list, nothing can be clicked?

Hi JavaCoder, I think "Newbie"-status accounts (activity <30) can't vote on Bitcointalk, is it?

I could not vote either.
I pick the CUBE. I don't like the TOMOE.

156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 29, 2014, 01:17:17 AM
NEM is accepted at all tollways!




Seriously, lets choose a better design.
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 27, 2014, 11:13:47 AM
update

The vps with all of the hosted nodes apparently went down.
Since this is the first day of the alpha, we don't have any redundancy yet.
So our small set of gateway nodes all went down.

Here is a cloud load testing tool that can simulate thousands of virtual users.
I don't know if this can help you test the network, it might be only for testing centralized servers.
http://loadstorm.com/
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Will the NEM client have multilingual support? Multiple language support is important.

"Globally, consumers are spending an estimated $694 billion online this year, according to Common Sense Advisory [1]. Approximately 96 percent of global consumers live outside of the United States [2], and 70 percent of global Web users visit websites in their own language [3]. According to research firm IDC, web users are four times more likely to make a purchase from a company if the company communicates in the buyers language."
www.marketwired.com/press-release/lingotek-devzone-expands-with-new-integrations-1914588.htm

yes!!!! 100%.. this is a must! even if its just english and chinese at first! then move on to spanish and french!

Language size: http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size

I'd like to see language size stats for people with computers.

This chart is from Yappn, they provide real-time multilingual translation (70 languages).



http://yappn.com/2014/03/24/multilingual-market-opportunity/

Countries with the Highest Internet Usage
http://www.internetworldstats.com/top20.htm

Top Ten Languages in the Internet
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159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: May 09, 2014, 11:55:32 PM
2015 headline: "Oxford Dictionary adds the word NEM"
 
For social media/marketing purposes our description and message should be consistent. We need an "official" definition of NEM, a simple one for NEM as a currency and an expanded one for NEM the concept.

NEM:
1) A digital currency [...fill in the blank...]
2) An acronym for New Economy Movement [...fill in the blank...]

bitcoin:
1) A digital currency in which transactions can be performed without the need for a central bank.

fiat:
1) A decree; a formal authorization; an arbitrary order;
2) A currency that a government has declared to be legal tender, but is not backed by a physical commodity.
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New site for analysing crypto coins on: April 30, 2014, 03:02:37 AM
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