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141  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illinois Just Made it a Felony for Its Citizens to Record the Police on: December 10, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
I agree with this. A lot of people go around, recording cops and purposely irritating them. It's hard to work under pressure especially when people keep on pushing and pushing you. There are already video recorders and cameras in the cars of many cops so if people have complaints they can always get a judge to allow access to the videos in order to make a claim. People who record cops usually do it because they are pretentious douche bags... just saying.
So if I was to say that you are a pretentious douche bag, would it be equally without a factual basis as the allegations you have made?

+1 on calling out his lack of rationality.

LOL, then I should become a cop in america, if i want to kill innocent ppl and stay unharmed. Good.

And pervs and paedophiles are probably drawn to jobs with the Homelust Securewurity Dept.
142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: December 10, 2014, 04:53:37 PM
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/10/it-is-now-a-felony-to-tape-the-police-abuse-in-illinois/

Quote from: Armstrong
A new bill passed last week in Illinois would make it a felony to secretly tape any “private conversations,” with steeper punishments for those surreptitiously recording the police. Critics of the proposed law claim it would scare citizens from recording interactions with law enforcement, following a number of high-profile police killings caught on camera. Instead of protecting the people, once again the government circles the wagons and condones the killing of citizens by police without any accountability.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1342&GAID=12&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=71864&SessionID=85&GA=98

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Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Eavesdropping Article of the Criminal Code of 2012. Changes various definitions. Defines "surreptitious". Provides that a person commits eavesdropping when he or she knowingly and intentionally: (1) uses an eavesdropping device, in a surreptitious manner, for the purpose of overhearing, transmitting, or recording all or part of a private conversation to which he or she is not a party unless he or she does so with the consent of all the parties to the conversation; (2) uses an eavesdropping device, in a surreptitious manner, for the purpose of transmitting or recording all or any part of any private conversation to which he or she is a party unless he or she does so with the consent of all of the parties to the private conversation; or (3) intercepts, records, or transcribes, in a surreptitious manner, any private electronic communication to which he or she is not a party unless he or she does so with the consent of all other parties to the private electronic communication. Prohibits the use or disclosure of any information which he or she knows or reasonably should know was obtained from a private conversation or private electronic communication in violation of the Eavesdropping Article, unless he or she does so with the consent of all of the parties.

...

Provides that the eavesdropping of an oral conversation or an electronic communication of any law enforcement officer, State's Attorney, Assistant State's Attorney, the Attorney General, Assistant Attorney General, or a judge, while in the performance of his or her official duties, if not authorized by the Article or proper court order, is a Class 3 felony, and for a second or subsequent offenses, is a Class 2 felony (rather than a Class 1 felony). Adds a severability provision. Effective immediately.



Raise Your Hand Idiot Reader If You Claim Armstrong Was Guilty


*raises hand*

No need, we already knew that. You clearly displayed your ignorance upthread.

http://nihoncassandra.blogspot.com/2006/08/enigma-of-martin-armstrong.html

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He was accused of Ponzi fraud and the purveyor of the notoriously unvaluable "Cresvale Bonds" that besotted Japanese corporate investors and populated their portfolios, much to their eventual chagrin.

What they don't tell you is that everything was hedged but the court appointed trustee destroyed all the hedges and stole $400 million of value from Princeton.

You are incapable of studying the facts of the case.
143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One opportunity no one in Bitcoin universe talks about on: December 10, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Well it is mutual. I think you are fools. And one side will be doing the laughing at the end.
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 03:55:51 PM
We already established that you are technical neophyte compared to me. I have 3 decades of serious programming experience and accomplishments, and you have been in the retail industry.

Dude, that's why nobody is listening, you claim tech experience then 95% of your waffle is economics. I would trust a retail pro to have a firmer grasp on economics.


I see your asshole is writing your posts. Dumbshit.

Edit: I am closing the thread. Seems it is impossible to have an intelligent discussion on this forum that is any way objective and critical of Bitcoin. The delusional creeps attack with their usual ignorance.
145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Let's say the Dollar and various fiats died next week, all the people unless they were holding assets like Gold or tangible assets and Bitcoin owners are safe and even prosper.

Don't you even bother to check history before spouting delusion?

Gold rarely holds its value when there is total collapse. Rather it is food that becomes valuable and the gold gets buried because it can't be spent. Rice was money for 600 years in Japan. Food was money during the Dark Age in Europe, not gold.

Gold only has value during brief periods of government failure, and where the gold can be moved into a new fiat asset that is functioning. If fiat fails totally, then gold also fails. Study history!



Seems to me you are quite the fuckwit. Firstly do you want me to post charts of countries right now where the currency is being devalued and Gold is making a moon shoot?

Gold means you weather the storm and come out the other end with your assets intact ie money, the fiat in your pocket however in a total currency collapse is toilet paper and will never recover and no one said having food supplies isn't also important though most modern collapse in recent history like in Argentina people weren't starving in the street, they just lost the wealth they had accumulated over for some a lifetime.  You misunderstand price for value ie wealth.  Its a common misunderstandings among children and old ladies so don't take it too hard.

Check your history? Why the fuck would I do that based on the Assclownery you think is knowledge.


PS Bitcoin can't be debased like fiat yooooooou fuuuuuuuuucking flid.

Go ahead and copy the idiot silverbugs who I told a year in advance in a published article that silver would peak at $48 in Spring 2011, they didn't listen and they held all the way down to below $17.

Or the idiot Bitcoin twads, who I warned in public in this forum when Bitcoin was $1000 that it would drop to $350 as a first bottom. Lately I warned it would bottom below $200.

Your IQ is too low to even comprehend what I wrote. I specifically stated that gold goes very high against total failure of government such as Wiemar Germany or Zimbabwe, but it doesn't go to infinity against governments which still have the power to supply a military and sell their sovereign bonds. The USA is no where near that type of insolvency. The people are not going to run away from all their possessions in the USA and forsake the government entirely. Sorry fucktwad.

In a total collapse, if you can't run somewhere with your gold that isn't collapsed then the gold is worthless, because only food is money in a total collapse. Gold had value in Wiemar and Zimbabwe, because it could be exchanged externally where there were non-collapsed economies.

STUDY HISTORY YOU IDIOT!! You don't have a fucking clue.

And Bitcoin can surely be debased. Simply make loans denominated in Bitcoin using fractional reserves. Did you not realize that this is what the private decentralized banks did in the 1800s with gold?I guess you are totally ignorant of Gresham's Law.

Just shut up. You obviously don't have two rocks to rub together inside of that cranium you call a brain.

Dumbshit.
146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
not many people actually think that bitcoin will defeat FIAT.

FIAT is nearly dead all by itself, leaving people to voluntarily move over to bitcoin. without bitcoin even having to try defeating fiat

The next megacrash will settle it; 2008 Episode 2; playing in the real world near you very soon  Wink
I don't think the stock market crash of 2008 had so much to do with Bitcoin's success, but rather the overall economic crisis that included a banking crisis. People generally did not trust banks and needed an alternative place to store their money

Bitcoin was the techie version of delusional goldbug fever.

Due to the QE there is a lot of stupid money floating around in the world looking for a delusion to be wasted on. That is why we saw bubbles flame out in real estate, commodities, gold, and then Bitcoin.

Once the deflation sets in earnestly 2016 onwards, the delusional are going to lose their money either from wrong investments or confiscation because they were deluded about the power of government.

Then finally the smart money will be only standing at the end game 2024 ish.

That means most of you readers are the dumb money and so you will lose your undeserved wealth.
147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 11:08:50 AM
OP you seem to be worried about bitcoin/anonimity/government tooooooo much..

watch the first 15 minutes of this video
http://bravenewcoin.com/news/andreas-antonopoulos-at-bitcoinsouth-money-as-a-content-type/

and allow andreas to explain to you why worrying about government rules or attempts to control are futile. and the multiple ways to hide where the funds came from in the world and went to in the world.

no law can stop bitcoin, it can only scare people (well sheeple that dont quite get bitcoin, and fear governments)

Andreas correctly explains that Bitcoin implements the End-to-End Principle of the internet, but he fails to articulate (at least in the first 7 minutes and I don't have time to listen to him ramble on, he doesn't go directly to the point) that is what he is explaining because apparently he doesn't quite understand the internet as well as I do or perhaps he is just dumbing down his explanation because I see he has a degree in Computer Science and experience in networking. What I can see is that his focus has been more on networking and network security (including hardware too), whereas my experience has been on making million user commercial software and I have always been as well a theoretical thinker. So I approach this from a more broad perspective and apparently more experience in scaling than he has. He is obviously no technical slouch and I suspect we might have interesting conversations someday. I suspect I have a much more broad understanding of political economics and macro economics than he does. In short, he appears to me to be somewhat pigeon-holed.

And end-to-end is why Cryptonote ring signatures are best for on chain anonymity. And we still need an improved high-latency Tor for IP anonymity to transmit the transaction to the network.

It doesn't matter if you use a pigeon to deliver your transaction to the network to hide your IP address, Bitcoin's block chain is traceable and linkable because it doesn't have ring signatures.

And the lack of anonymity for the miners remains the choke hold point weakness in Bitcoin. Miners can be regulated and forced to reject transactions that don't attach KYC identity.

Sorry I already had this debate with you and we will not repeat it again. If you persist in repeating the debate which I already embarrassed you in the other thread, I will close the thread. Because you are wasting my scarce time.

We already established that you are a technical neophyte compared to me. I have 3 decades of serious programming experience and accomplishments, and you have been in the retail industry.
148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
Bitcoin will very likely become synonymous with being a criminal.

You fucking mischievous liar. Do not quote me, then edit what I wrote to totally change the meaning of what I wrote.

...Unlike using cash, employing anonymity in Bitcoin will very likely become synonymous with being a criminal...

I had written that using Bitcoin in a KYC (you are not anonymous) compliant provider such as Coinbase or Paypal, will be sanctioned by the powers-that-be and you will not be labeled a criminal.
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Let's say the Dollar and various fiats died next week, all the people unless they were holding assets like Gold or tangible assets and Bitcoin owners are safe and even prosper.

Don't you even bother to check history before spouting delusion?

Gold rarely holds its value when there is total collapse. Rather it is food that becomes valuable and the gold gets buried because it can't be spent. Rice was money for 600 years in Japan. Food was money during the Dark Age in Europe, not gold.

Gold only has value during brief periods of government failure, and where the gold can be moved into a new fiat asset that is functioning. If fiat fails totally, then gold also fails. Study history!
150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
not defeating, supplanting.

Supplanting in a semantic delusion, because non-anonymous Bitcoin will actually be joining the fiat system and be part of the global monetary reset with the powers-that-be still in control of you and I.
151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 10:17:15 AM
not many people actually think that bitcoin will defeat FIAT.

FIAT is nearly dead all by itself, leaving people to voluntarily move over to bitcoin. without bitcoin even having to try defeating fiat

The next megacrash will settle it; 2008 Episode 2; playing in the real world near you very soon  Wink

No fool. The dollar will become stronger because it is the most liquid and the rest of the world is short dollars given massive borrowings in dollars due to QE.

The Euro and the USD is like two people jumping from a skyscraper, at the moment USD is ahead, before that EUR was ahead, but in the end all fiat currencies will approximate their inner value, which is zero.

If people would not be threatened with violence by the government, that would have happened a long time ago. Do you really believe Germans would use the Euro if they could use anything? Such as a gold backed currency issued by Swiss banks, maybe?

The USD is not strong, the others are even weaker. The ECB has indicated that they will print EURO even more radically than the USA - and there is not much else to turn to. AUD is too small, JPY is even worse than EUR, CHF is bound to the EUR

USD IS STRONG DUE TO LACK OF ALTERNATIVES!

The value of fiat never goes to zero when the country still has a strong military, police, and can sell its bonds.

It only goes to zero when there is a total collapse of government and everyone flees, e.g. Wiemar Germany or Zimbabwe.

So sorry you are talking the usual goldbug delusional nonsense that has no example in history.

We are headed into deflation and the entire world is short the dollar with widespread dollar loans. The dollar will come much stronger as the rest of the world collapses. The USA will then collapse because the strong dollar will strangle its economy.

We will then go into war and chaos. Eventually the powers-that-be will reset the global monetary system, but never will they have given up power.

Gold will go very high after 2016 when the USA starts to collapse. But it will not go to $50,000 and the dollar will not go to 0.

And to cash your gold back into the fiat system will require you provide identification and you will be heavily taxed (maybe even 90%).

Sorry there is no escape from the move towards 666, unless perhaps we actually created anonymity the way I have been advocating.

Edit: gold has not bottomed yet. Expect sub-$1000 with a natural target in the $800s but $630 is not impossible. Ditto Bitcoin has not bottomed yet. Why? The dollar will come much stronger in 2015. And the delusional goldbugs (who also buy Bitcoin) have to first become dejected before we can bottom.
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 09:57:36 AM
This is like 'Anonymint' all over again.

It is Anonymint. Tongue
How can you be sure?  Cheesy

He's had to make new accounts because the Anonymint account was made inaccessible on purpose.

I requested the AnonyMint be disabled (I didn't think about just scrambling my password, which is what I have done since to disable TheFascistMind). I was hoping to stop wasting time posting in forums, so I could get more real work done, also because my health had declined so much and being on the internet was probably the wrong activity to improve my health.

I felt lately I could be more focused in my posts, and there were a few very important things I wanted to say.

I also I really don't want to sway people with a reputation, but rather with my logic. I had always promised not to use my AnonyMint reputation to promote an altcoin.
153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 09, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Did you REALLY just start a new threat linking to a post from another thread, without so much as adding anything to it?

Because the moderator moved that thread from the Bitcoin Discussion to Politics and Society subforum. And I felt the discussion was more pertinent to Bitcoin.
154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Top Obama Admin DOJ Official to Apple, Google: Encryption Will Lead to Dead Kids on: December 08, 2014, 10:25:05 PM
...From that point on, I knew that police are low-IQ power maniacs with badges given their power (and authority) by stupid white people who prefer the illusion of safety over freedom.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”—Ben Franklin

The large corporations will be at the mercy of the stupid public. That is why we hackers must build anonymity into the internet in a decentralized manner as a I have outlined.
155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold on: December 08, 2014, 10:10:59 PM

So what you are saying is choking someone has no affect on their ability to respirate and deliver oxygen to the brain?

He was choked for only 10 seconds. I guarantee most people can hold their breath for 10 seconds and not die or go into a coma...

This shows your lack of understanding of human anatomy. A headlock usually cuts off the oxygen supply to the brain by stopping the blood flow DIRECTLY in the neck. Holding ones breath you still have all the oxygen in your lungs and in your blood flowing to the brain. Not the same thing AT ALL.

Regardless most healthy human beings can survive a lenghty period of time in a chokehold, it wouldn't be taught as a basic martial arts or police maneuver all around the world if the expected outcome was death. And the chokehold applied to Garner was very brief and from the looks of it not very tight either. I'm just contending it's not murder because a normal healthy human being would not have been killed by this.

Why the fuck do we teach police to choke hold? It is a machismo maneuver to prove who is doing the ass kicking and demand humiliation submission. It doesn't serve any functional role and it puts the policeman in danger which requires them to body build and take steroids.

They could simply stand at a distance and warn the offender or suspect that if they don't voluntarily submit to arrest they will be clubbed in the leg if they try to vacate the scene. The point is to deescalate and give the offender a chance to think out the recourse and calm down. And one clubbing to the leg is sufficient, not multiple beatings. Or after a few moments if it is not sufficient, then more clubbings. And always on mandatory headcam worn by police and shown to the public on the internet so they know they must respect the people that they serve.

When I was 20 in college in San Fernando valley, California in 1985, I was sitting in my car outside a disco and I was beaten through the window by 250lb lineman bouncer from Arizona State U. I didn't know my passenger was talking to his gf, he punched me without me even knowing it and my head hit the stickshift. He broke my jaw (had to eat through a straw after that).

I got out of the car and asked him nicely what the hell he did that for? He punched me again. I got up and was moving towards him asking him if he felt like a tough guy for hitting innocent people, and an off duty police came over and put me in an arm lock then a choke hold and asked me if I wanted to die today. My friend begged him to let me go and I didn't resist, so he didn't kill me.

I proceeded to the police station to report the crime against me and they refused to talk to me. I called attorneys the next day and nobody would take my case.

From that point on, I knew that police are low-IQ power maniacs with badges given their power (and authority) by stupid white people who prefer the illusion of safety over freedom.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”—Ben Franklin
156  Other / Politics & Society / Re: no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold on: December 08, 2014, 07:58:23 PM
I wasn't arguing that Americans aren't violent, I was arguing that it is insane to compare that sort of violent behavior to ISIS fundamentalists who cut off little girls' limbs while she is alive.

Note Latin America is even more violent than the USA overall, and the USA has a huge influx of Latin Americans. Also black Americans are statistically 20 times more likely to commit murder than European-descent Americans. So yes we are melting pot with races (Africans and Latinos) who are typically violent. There are also whites who are into the machismo crap and fighting.

I agree the USA is fucked up. It will disintegrate and violence will proliferate. The cohesiveness of the common language and common market is being lost because of the great disparity between the for example highly educated who work in Silicon valley or other high tech enclaves, and the lower and middle class trash. When the USA economy turns down from 2016 onwards, this disintegration will become more evident and accelerate. For example, this rioting is part of the demise of retailing in the USA. Kiss our strip malls good riddance. This is the end of that era and economic paradigm.

Most of Europe (but not for example Finland) appears to have the problem that they don't want to own personal guns, so this puts them in danger of being overrun by an invader such as ISIS or Russia. Also it appears the pacifism in Europe was bought with an elaborate social system. When that social system collapses (it is bankrupt), then we will see the true human nature rise again in Europe as it does every time they collapse economically. This time it might be an invader, since Europe's demographics are old (low birth rates) and its youth significantly emasculated. Buying off the population with debt is also a delayed megadeath paradigm.

Both Europe and the USA are examples of what rampant socialism has fostered.

Edit: the collapsing oil price is both evidence of a collapsing global economy and it will strengthen ISIS because economic hardship and anger will increase throughout the Middle East, East Asian, and north African oil producing region.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One opportunity no one in Bitcoin universe talks about on: December 08, 2014, 03:14:47 AM
Fools don't understand that we would have radically reduced level and efficiency of farming without derivatives.

It is not about cramming artificial value, rather businesses can't function without derivatives.

Anyone who disagrees has never run a large corporation.

Everyday you use a derivative. It is called the dollar or Euro. Your unit-of-account protects you from exchange rate timing risk, which enables you to budget and plan.

Shorts provide liquidity to the market (because they have to cover, i.e. buy back in) that prevents waterfall panic crashes and enable price discovery (valuation) to be less volatile.
158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin defeating fiat is very unlikely on: December 08, 2014, 03:10:56 AM
not many people actually think that bitcoin will defeat FIAT.

FIAT is nearly dead all by itself, leaving people to voluntarily move over to bitcoin. without bitcoin even having to try defeating fiat

The next megacrash will settle it; 2008 Episode 2; playing in the real world near you very soon  Wink

No fool. The dollar will become stronger because it is the most liquid and the rest of the world is short dollars given massive borrowings in dollars due to QE.
159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold on: December 08, 2014, 02:58:04 AM
Here is where the theory about the chokehold killing him falls apart.

If he was truly in a chokehold where his air supply was cut off...he wouldn't be able to speak...

Obviously you didn't play football as a small boned guy and end up at the bottom of a pile of 250lb linemen. You can speak (exhale) and you can't breath in sufficient air. You don't know if he was struggling and able to wiggle enough to shout. Also by shouting he may have depleted his air and hastened his suffocation.

If the guy says he can't breath and then dies on the spot, you got to be very good at delusion to convince yourself that unnecessary police brutality is not likely responsible for his death.

like Charles Barkley said, if the police brutality weren't around it would be 10x worse.

Note the strawman Barkalot erected.

We want police. We don't want paramilitary crazed powertrip maniacs with badges.

Americans search the globe for new people to fuck with and aren't happy until someone dies. You shouldn't disrespect fanatical Muslems by comparing them to Americans.  

No the USA military does that, not the American people. The people voted Obama on his promise to end that shit. Americans have always been isolationists. The people who run our country are causing that problem. There is a conservative minority who supports that shit.

ISIS has explained their first priority was local, then next they will go global. They slice little girls arms and legs off while she is still alive. BTW, they may be coming to Europe. Eurofags have no guns (and perhaps insufficient young men, due to low fertility rates and rampant emasculation) to defend yourself.

Comparing that to the average American citizen is beyond delusional, it is insane. What happened to you?

No doubt that American culture is shallow, selfish, arrogant, etc.. but the French are doing a good job at that too, and I hear that the youth in Europe are just as fucked up in terms of smoking, drugs, encouraging females to try lesbian sex, etc.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Charles Hoskinson's TEDx Bermuda Presentation on Bitcoin and Ethereum on: December 06, 2014, 06:01:30 PM

At the abstract generative essence level, there are two salient points he makes:

1. Ubiquitous technology disintermediates (transcends) Coasian barriers such as governments and geopolitical circumstance.

2. Decentralized consensus is a monumental paradigm shift.

However, I assert that:

1. Without anonymity, fragmentation and Coasian barriers will persistent (find my recent posts about anonymity).

2. Decentralized consensus is often not the correct way to implement decentralized services[1].

3. Ethereum has the wrong model for a programmable block chain (find my recent post for the correct model).

P.S. Charles and I used to talk before he found Vitalik and got involved with Ethereum.

[1] Two examples are that MaidSafe and StorJ are not the correct way to implement decentralized hosting as I have explained recently. And OpenBazaar is not the correct way to implement decentralized online selling. In both cases, and plethora of hidden services (servers) is the correct model and I predict it will win.
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