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1401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: An ASIC Company's Guide to Maximizing Profit while Destroying Bitcoin on: March 24, 2013, 01:33:04 PM
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Liberty dollars were against the law because they used the word "dollar" and the same symbol ($) as the official currency of the country. This is VERY different from bitcoin, which is 100% legit.

Lots of currencies around the world say "dollar". The fact they got him on the "$" symbol, is a far cry from the message the FBI put out about him being a "domestic terrorist". If someone mistakenly uses your trade mark you deal with it with a cease and desist notice.
1402  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can the power of asic miners be used to break into btc wallets? on: March 24, 2013, 12:56:35 PM
So much easier if you just produce some mining software that copies the wallet.dat and key logs the users passwords Wink

Who in their right mind would trust mining software from people who run scam pools anyway?

Don't keep your wallet on the same machine you mine on... EVER!
1403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: An ASIC Company's Guide to Maximizing Profit while Destroying Bitcoin on: March 24, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
Bernard von NotHaus, created his own fully gold backed Liberty Dollar and this is how the FBI dealt with him...

Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,” U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country,” she added. “We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.

http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency

The biggest threat to Bitcoin right now is an ASIC monopoly that only sells in Bitcoins. This means only people who already own ASICs can mine enough Bitcoins to buy more ASICs, which will lead to a huge reduction in the number of network nodes.
1404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL is getting awfully quiet.... on: March 24, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
Would be nice if they put a web cam live feed in their lab then you could see if they were working on it.  Wink
1405  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have leverage within ARM -> Could they change the entire game? on: March 23, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
Sadly ARM only design and license, no fabrication = no product.
Shame, because I'd have liked to see a British company compete.
1406  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New card for mining on: March 23, 2013, 05:26:12 PM
Get an old PC off ebay and stick some 5830s/5850s in it and you'll be gaming & mining for <$400 total.

But if I have a budget of $1500 for a new build, will going with a 7970 give me much better results?

2x Ati 5830's are 520-600MHs (depending on overclock) for $180
Dell Core 2 Duo Tower PC XP $85
Total = $265

Leaves you $1235 to for the Butterfly Labs 60gh/s $1299 ASIC later.
(okay u gota find another $64 by then but you'll mine that in less than a month)

Grin Having a cake and eating it.
1407  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC CRASH 23/03 on: March 23, 2013, 05:05:01 PM
It's probably just an illegal trick traders use called a "wash trade"

You sell hard to flush people out of their positions and buy back once you reach a target price.

As this exchange in unregulated expect a lot of trader tricks as hedge funds move in.
1408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: EU Manipulating BTC price and how to profit - on: March 23, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
It's an old (illegal) trading trick called a "wash trade".   Wink

You put a huge sell order in to flush out trades then follow it with a larger buy order mop up the cheap sells.
1409  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New card for mining on: March 23, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
Get an old PC off ebay and stick some 5830s/5850s in it and you'll be gaming & mining for <$400 total.
1410  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: fastest available FPGA? on: March 23, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
Also user Arvicco is looking to sell his FPGA farm I think too.

1411  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: AMD 7790(GCN 1.1) on: March 23, 2013, 01:02:46 PM
Mine hash at..
80w 250MH/s reference 860/1200 clock.
100w 300MH/s stable 1050/1450 overclock with no volt mods.
Why would you OC your RAM to mine BTC?
I see no power difference measured at the wall by underclocking the memory and as it's used for gaming, it's a hassel to keep changing it.  Wink
What about temps? I notice a -3C difference switching from 1500 to 950, and then another -2 or -3C going down to 410.

I think my OEM Sapphire 7850 2gb Dual-X are self power saving. They wouldn't work on AMD drivers, ran at half clock/mem speeds, only work correctly with Sapphires own drivers.
1412  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Buyer moves $4.5 k to buy 58 BTC @ $78.60 on VirtEx on: March 23, 2013, 01:40:56 AM
Probably buying an Avalon ASIC you need 88BTC and they don't take fiat money.
1413  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: AMD 7790(GCN 1.1) on: March 23, 2013, 01:37:28 AM
Mine hash at..
80w 250MH/s reference 860/1200 clock.
100w 300MH/s stable 1050/1450 overclock with no volt mods.
Why would you OC your RAM to mine BTC?

I see no power difference measured at the wall by underclocking the memory and as it's used for gaming, it's a hassel to keep changing it.  Wink
1414  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: fastest available FPGA? on: March 22, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Sorry about that I copied it from an old post someone asked me the same question a few weeks ago.

Entropy-uc has a huge FPGA mining farm, someone might as him if he was interested in selling any.  Wink

1415  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: GPU mining,is it safe to use them at full power or will last longer underclocked on: March 22, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
don't volt mod and they will be fine.

I run 2 at 1050/600 and they do 600MH/s

I always recommend the twin fan versions though for overclocking, leave the fans on Auto.

Right click your desktop, choose AMD Catalyst, choose Overdrive, and see they give you the overclock tool right there (voltage locked).

Disable the crossfire they run a little faster as two seperate cards. You might need to install AMDs OpenCL drivers though.
1416  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suppose bitcoin does get to be $100,000. What happens to electricity costs? on: March 22, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
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I haven't seen anyone with realistic expectations saying that bitcoin will get to $100,000 per BTC this year.  Have you?

Not realistic but Max Keiser with an RT audience of 550 million is telling the world 1% of global trade = $100,000 bitcoin.

If we had 1% of world trade a day wouldn't be long enough to sync the block chain and the system would fall behind on processing transactions I suspect. Already the blizzard of micro transaction from Bitcoin betting sites is enough to mess Bitcoin up. Grin
1417  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: AMD 7790(GCN 1.1) on: March 22, 2013, 03:50:41 PM
I suspect it will be running screaming hot, noisy and will have no headroom to overclock!

7790's 896 Stream processors is less than the 1024 stream processors in the 7850

It's the same price as a 7850, trust me get a 7850,

The chart is bullshit saying a 7850 does 232MH/s

Mine hash at..
80w 250MH/s reference 860/1200 clock.
100w 300MH/s stable 1050/1450 overclock with no volt mods.

add 100w for the system.

If they are really getting 250MH/s for 38w that would be amazing, but the specs say 85w!
1418  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: fastest available FPGA? on: March 22, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
40w/800 MH/s $1000/£600+tax Cairnsmore1 says 4 in stock (UK but they do ship to the US/EU select currency at top)
http://www.enterpoint.co.uk/shop/en/108-cairnsmore1-.html

and also there's

40w/860 MH/s $1200/€959+tax Spartan 6 USB-FPGA Module 1.15y says 4 in stock (German but they ship outside the EU in $ too)
http://shop.ztex.de/product_info.php?products_id=74&osCsid=vcap1tdhb232ggu0cs1njerm66

You don't pay tax if it's taken outside the country of origin, but you might get import duty your end.
1419  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Harnessing wasted heat? Post your pics and ideas! on: March 22, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Besides having one in each room to provide free heating from waste power..

..in the past I've used it to heat a tropical fish aquarium and a lizard vivarium.
1420  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is bitcoin mining actually legal? on: March 22, 2013, 03:16:48 PM
I forgot about the Bernard von NotHaus case though, arrested by the FBI and labeled a Domestic Terrorist...

Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,” U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country,” she added. “We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.”

http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency

His crime? He created a gold/silver back dollar, and when they checked, he had every oz he claimed was backing it! $7m worth! (which they now want to seize)
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