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14501  Economy / Services / Re: [Hire] Kid with no job experience? Get paid while learning bookkeeping! on: December 02, 2014, 06:53:07 PM

• You must have administrator access on the computer, because you’ll have to install some programs to be able to do the work. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, that’s all right. Basically you have to own a computer or borrow your parent’s computer. If you only have access to an internet café, a school computer or similar, we sadly can’t offer you a job at this time.




This is how malwares are installed.

If you go for it, install the software in a virtual machine where you won't type personal info like password or private keys.

Otherwise you might be the next one crying because your wallet was stolen and your account hacked

exactly thats how it will work.. imagine why he need a "KID" to do this kind of job  Cheesy
It could ofcourse mean that he wants to scam someone but his intentions are good.
I don't know what you consider being a "child", that may be a good thing to put in the OP.
Someone who is naive enough to install 1 GB worth of software from a random person claiming to be hiring them from a forum that has a large number of people keeping large amounts of money on their computer.
14502  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [scammer alert] Shetkid / Zanien and "tomato btc" on skype on: December 02, 2014, 12:41:25 AM
He asked me for a .01 loan via PM that would be secured by 10,000 DOGE, which at the time was worth ~.0065 BTC. I explained to him that is not how collateral loans work and that he would need to offer collateral that is worth more then the loan amount, he said that he would try to get more DOGE to be able to borrow .01 BTC.

Maybe an hour or two after that he PM'ed me again saying that he "lost" the doge from paying back a friend 8.5k DOGE and gambling the rest.

At first I thought that he simply did not understand how collateral loans work but by the end of my encounter with him, I believed that he was trying to scam me out of ~.0035 or potentially pull some kind of larger scam.
14503  Economy / Lending / Re: demanding loans BTC/LTC/USD on: December 01, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
You are offering ~5% of what would be earned via bitfinex and I think it would be very unlikely that interest rates would crash that low.
the current rate is 0.07% a day i see, suppose you could offer this swap 24/24, 7/7 (which is far from certain) you'll get less than 0.50% a week, I'm offering 0.20% a week, far more than 5% of bitfinex.
i may have made a mistake here but you are still making much less lending to you then you would on bitfinex based on your numbers 2.5 times as much on bitfinex
Edit: also I believe you can set it up so anytime a swap is closed bitfinex will automatically open a new swap at the flash rate so you can lend 24/7 /edit
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If you pay a standard fee of .0001 and lend you .5 then it would take a week to make the fee back in interest.
0.5 * 0.2/7% = 0.000143 a day (on average if you are lending usd), it takes you less than 1 day to earn the tx fee of 0.000143, not a week... so loaning small amounts is still possible but if nobody wants to do that, fine...
your math is flawed. If you are offering .02% per week (as you stated for your btc/ltc rate) then you will earn .0001 btc per week if someone lent .5 btc. Your minimum however is much lower then that and from what I have seen you are more likely to attract lenders who can afford to lend less then .5 btc (based on amounts available for lending on other lenders' threads).

I also do not see the point of you borrowing potentially small amounts like this. You claim to be buying Bitcoin on an exchange in order to borrow Bitcoin that you will then sell on an exchange and will proceed to buy Bitcoin on an exchange to repay the loan.
14504  Economy / Lending / Re: demanding loans BTC/LTC/USD on: December 01, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
I don't know about the current fees there, but yes, but what if bitcoin value goes down hugely? Then you are screwed if you are on bitfinex,
you can lend out your bitcoin, you don't have to lend your fiat.
what if bitfinex runs away with everything... what are you going to do, visiting their fake offices in HK to ask your btc back  Cheesy?
The same is said with any escrow that is used but bitfinex has a longer history then most escrow providers and they also have more experience holding much more money then any escrow provider.
If I'm right fees can change there and swaps cancelled all the time giving you a much lower intrest than you expect now. With me you don't have those risk so i think my intrest rates are fair
The interest rate market is stable enough for this to not be an issue. You are offering ~5% of what would be earned via bitfinex and I think it would be very unlikely that interest rates would crash that low.
+ if amounts or not that small you don't have to use fees to send bitcoin and for smaller amounts like 5mbtc (min. to loan me) a fee of 0.01 mbtc is also enough to confirm which is earned back in a few days with USD loan and some websites offer free withdrawals
If you pay a standard fee of .0001 and lend you .5 then it would take a week to make the fee back in interest. This is the lowest amount that someone can break even after paying the TX fee in a week with your interest rates. If a fee is not included then it could take a long time to confirm and seeing how you are with offering fair terms I would say there would be a good chance you would claim it is taking too long to confirm and would send the funds back....with a fee (that would then now be required for the miners to likely confirm - not enough bitcoin days destroyed to qualify for a free TX)
14505  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: December 01, 2014, 04:42:27 PM
Campaign will be launching within a week for hero/senior/legendary members. It will then be opened for full/member/jr shortly after.

We have a new payment system that will pay per post and depending on what forum section (Posting in some forum sections will get you more per post than others). The whole process will be fully automated and payments will be made weekly. We will be able to track users characters per post and easily ban spammers from the campaign. Hilariousandco (Bitcointalk mod) will be monitoring all participants and will be ensuring the quality of the forum is not lowered by participants.

We're setting a 50 BTC/month budget on this campaign so we are looking for a lot of people to sign up.
you may or may not have thought of this but I would be sure to exclude anything in quotes (like a quoted message) as this will make it look like you are posting more then you really are if you quote a long message. I am not 100% sure how you would do this (little programming experience) but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult.

For example someone quoting the post that I quoted here and added only "this is good" should certainly be considered spam but would appear to be much longer if the quoted text is not excluded.
14506  Economy / Lending / Re: A credit is needed for development ! on: December 01, 2014, 03:15:48 PM
You will need to put up actual collateral if you want any lender to consider this loan.

There is nothing about the lender seeing what you are doing with the money that will force and/or incentivice you to repay the lender.
14507  Economy / Lending / Re: demanding loans BTC/LTC/USD on: December 01, 2014, 01:09:48 PM
.02% per week? That is well under the daily rate on bitfinex. It would also not even cover the tx fees on smaller loans.

This is also a duplicate thread.
14508  Other / Meta / Re: Dank's final testimony on: November 30, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
Maybe the ban was awarded because he was giving out dangerous advice to a potential suicide member on this thread:

And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.
Wow, I cannot believe you just wrote this. What would happen if the guy is genuinely suicidal and taking medication and decides to take your "advice", and something bad happens because of it?
Probably not, but antidepressants can actually increase the risk of suicide for some people. They also effectively change your personality/the way you think, so some could say that antidepressants (along with mood stabilizers and others) can change who you are as a person.
14509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Want to get rid of a bulk of coins? (2BTC-100BTC) [TwinWinNerD] on: November 30, 2014, 10:08:59 PM
I could do 5250 at best because it is not a big amount. For higher amounts I couldn't really go below 5300 right now.
I can do that.

That is 2.625 BTC for 50,000 NXT
14510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Want to get rid of a bulk of coins? (2BTC-100BTC) [TwinWinNerD] on: November 30, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
5300 sats
Hmmm, that is ~3% above btcer.....would you be able to come down to 5185 sats?
14511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Want to get rid of a bulk of coins? (2BTC-100BTC) [TwinWinNerD] on: November 30, 2014, 08:41:14 PM
Raised limits!

Can now buy coins upto 100 BTC worth in one go.

Can now sell NXT up to 1 M worth in one go.
Is this still a true statement? If so what kind of BTC/NXT rate can you offer for ~50k NXT?
14512  Other / Meta / Re: The Question of Vod and Depth 2 Trust List on: November 30, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
-examples of potential mistakes by Vod-
Another major difference between Vod and the two other members who were removed from default trust is that Vod is much more active in calling out and neg repping scammers. Even if he makes a few mistakes the net effect is that the community is much safer as a result of him being on default trust. Yes this is somewhat hypocritical, but neither of the two people who lost their status as being on default trust lost any actual value or ability to trade (other then the fact that one of them probably had people seek to trade with them in small amounts in order to receive the positive feedback that was often left)

Also the two people removed from default trust gave their negative feedback because they were retaliating against someone making (arguably false) claims against their reputation, this has never been the case with Vod.

Plus it is possible to rebuild a person's reputation by successfully trading with others and if you get enough positive trades on your trust your "red" will turn neutral and eventually turn green if you get more trade reports.
14513  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: November 30, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
Rule update:
Minimum of 5 new topics (that's only one or two a week) in the bitcoin discussion board (make them interesting and relevant to news and continually reply to the discussion in the thread!)

What is the point in this and how is it even enforceable? Are you going to go through everybody's posts (potentially hundreds) one by one to check if they've made the mandatory minimum five threads? You can't even tell if they created the thread just by looking at their post history anyway. Seems more hassle than it's worth and will only cause problems for everyone.
You can look at the title of the thread in a person's post history. If the title starts with a "Re:" then it is a reply, if he title of the post does not have this then it is a new thread (at least this is how it is by default, someone could manually change the post title).

I think he is trying to weed out spammers with this rule (and others). I personally think this will end up backfiring as people will get denied payment for breaking the rules and get upset. Anyone that is denied payment for breaking the rules has the potential to make a lot of noise about the company and will likely counter the positive effect of signature advertising. I think the way that EvilPanda handles the GAW campaign (and the way that Stunna handled the PD campaign) is much more effective and less reputation risky then the way that the luckyb.it campaign is run (on the other end of the spectrum).

The result of this rule will probably be a lot more threads like this.
14514  Economy / Services / Re: Paying bitcoins for negative trust on Trust Abuser on: November 30, 2014, 03:12:49 PM
I don't think this is a very good way to get your negative trust removed. Plus someone could receive payment and then remove the negative trust.

I think it would be a much better idea to discuss it with him directly, and if he declines to remove your negative trust you should remain active on the forum for a month or two (maybe a little longer) without any issues or scam accusations, and he will probably remove it. It is probably too late now that you are offering to pay for negative feedback to his profile.

Plus Vod generally does not do very many trades on here so even if his feedback is red it would not affect his ability to trade.

I am fairly certain that your offer is not going to be high enough for the risks involved but out of curiosity how much are you offering.
14515  Economy / Services / Re: [CLOSED] Cryptomine.io - Signature Campaign with a twist - Well worth your time on: November 30, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
I would say that based on this post (and other posts in this thread) that you are almost certainly an alt of the OP and of the website. This is one major reason why it is not good to select participants in any order other then first come first serve. By handpicking participants like this the OP is making it possible that there would be accounts controlled by the OP participating which could make it look like some/most participants were paid when they were really not.

Come on, how can you conclude that, just for your assumptions? So almost certainly i'm me too an alt account cause i've told before that i feel safe also w/o escrow?

Also first come first serve can be cheated, and you know it. The op can simply hire lots of users before the campaign starts, and then tell them the date/hour when the campaign will start the enrollment process, so they will leave no space for legit users. But i know, since you're trading accounts for the signature campaigns this way make your life easier, cause honest OP usually doesn't do it.

BTW guys like you are destroying the sense of these initiatives.
He is enthusiastically saying that without a doubt that the OP can be trusted, really to the point that he is vouching for the OP. You are saying (like monbux did) that you are willing to take the risk that you will not be paid, you leave open the possibility that the OP will end up scamming.

You are right, first come first serve can be cheated, but it is more difficult to do so and when it is cheated it is easier to tell that it is being cheated. Picking members this way makes cheating much easier and harder to detect. Also it appears that the OP is specifically targeting users with positive trust, they even added a spot when monbux PM'ed the OP asking if there was an open spot. By having users with positive trust it increases the chances that someone will see a trusted user's signature and would be willing to do less due diligence on the site and invest in their mining contracts, so it would make it easier for the site to scam if that is their intention (I do think they are a scam site and I am not alone, just look at their [ann] thread).
14516  Economy / Services / Re: Need a new campaign maintainer for my 777Coin. on: November 30, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
Agree, please kindly closed this thread.
Otherwise, Quickseller will keep asking until he is satisfied  Cheesy
Don't know if this is open for public voting or not but I would love to nominate Quickseller :p

*Yeah, this puppy outta be closed alright Wink
I am not sure if you are trolling or not, but either way I am flattered.

The only person who claimed that someone had ben selected for the job was someone other then the OP and as far as I am concerned was not speaking for the OP. Additionally the OP was not updated to reflect the fact the spot has been filled which is something that I would expect from a reputable person (to avoid people waisting their time applying and showing their qualifications for a position that is not available)
14517  Economy / Services / Re: DredOp Escrow Services on: November 30, 2014, 06:26:37 AM
The obvious scam is obvius.

Edit: I have a 100 btc trade that I would like to complete, can you give me a trusted address to send funds to?
14518  Other / Meta / Re: Please Reply Mod only.... on: November 30, 2014, 05:50:32 AM
I am not a moderator but looking at your post history I see that you have a lot of very short posts so you were probably banned for signature spamming. I don't think your ban will get lifted.

The bit.in campaign seems to get a lot of signature spam banned accounts. 
14519  Economy / Services / Re: [CLOSED] Cryptomine.io - Signature Campaign with a twist - Well worth your time on: November 30, 2014, 04:55:34 AM
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This will be interesting if escrow by trusted member.
I personally prefer monbux

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LOL, the one that you quoted is my post on BIT-X signature campaign.
Can't you see why i post that?  No i guess.

Check the time dude, and this post is my post few hour after that.
Okay that is my mistake. However it only strengthens my argument. Marcotheminer is much more trusted then carro and if you are asking for escrow when marco is running a campaign then it is illogical for you to not ask for escrow when carro is running the campaign.
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I just answer allcoinminer, that not count  Roll Eyes
Half of me want escrow, but the other half had faith on carra23. So it's still undecided.



Still can't see? Let me tell you.
Honestly at that day and until today, i still choosing between cryptomine or bit-x. Now that i already see bit-x rate, i am sure that i can't reach 300 post. 100 post is my top. 50 post is sure, so i am staying with cryptomine.


End of story & my last post here regarding this matter  Smiley
The rate is higher but the funds are being held by someone trusted, but we are not discussing their campaign, we are discussing this one.
14520  Economy / Services / Re: [CLOSED] Cryptomine.io - Signature Campaign with a twist - Well worth your time on: November 30, 2014, 03:39:26 AM
I would say that based on this post (and other posts in this thread) that you are almost certainly an alt of the OP and of the website. This is one major reason why it is not good to select participants in any order other then first come first serve. By handpicking participants like this the OP is making it possible that there would be accounts controlled by the OP participating which could make it look like some/most participants were paid when they were really not.

This is serious accusation dude. Everyone had right to say whatever he want but you can not accuse someone base on post on this thread.
There is no point arque in this matter since i won't admit it(because i am not).

I am the third participant that ask for escrow but hey you will say that was just a drama.
I don't fear to be kick from this campaign at that time since there is bit-x campaign by marcotheminer.

Anyway i will drop this argue here, say what ever you want.
peace

You are right, you have "asked" for escrow a few times:
Take it easy guys, just ask for escrow.


Hi carra23, i am also vote for escrow service by reputable green member that experience with escrow service  Smiley

redsn0w is better than Carra23 but not the best. But for this amount,
If op is looking for the escrow then should opt for a highly experienced and trustworthy escrow providers like, John (John K., escrow.ms, etc.

John K is busy man. I am prefer  monbux
This will be interesting if escrow by trusted member.
I personally prefer monbux
However you have shown blind support for carra23 many more times:
This is simple guys  Smiley

For participant, we had 3 choices:
1. Choose 10 days payment with reduction
2. Initial monthly payment
3. Leave Cryptomine.io - Signature Campaign

For non participant:
>> Well, non participant had no right to ask for escrow.
If participant use alt account to ask, then it's their own fault. No need to argue about this.


This is my first time enroll on signature campaign. I am not a gambler, i never win in gambling.
But this is not gambling, i didn't send any money for this bet. 50 required post is my normal post per month.
For fresh starter, i want to start with positive though. Yes, i had doubt before, but now i don't care anymore.

So i am willing to risk my 0.2 BTC to carra23


Looking forward for carra23 become green trust escrow man in the end of december  Smiley
Ok participant, carra23 already show good faith by giving options.
Now is time to speak your mind, i already open the way  Smiley

I guess i will stick with 0.2 BTC + 0.15 BTC  Cheesy


If I get enough participants doubting the funds, I will get some other escrow. To me it looks redundant as if I can be trusted to hand back the amount, I can be trusted to pay out; but nevertheless I would not want this to cause participants worry.

I see lot of participants requesting it now. Common Cara, get another escrow. You can manage the campaign. I see no reason now, why you won't .

Actually none of the participant request escrow yet.

You just did above. Do you want to risk getting not paid? Or a better escrow for this campaign?

I just answer allcoinminer, that not count  Roll Eyes
Half of me want escrow, but the other half had faith on carra23. So it's still undecided.


If I get enough participants doubting the funds, I will get some other escrow. To me it looks redundant as if I can be trusted to hand back the amount, I can be trusted to pay out; but nevertheless I would not want this to cause participants worry.

I see lot of participants requesting it now. Common Cara, get another escrow. You can manage the campaign. I see no reason now, why you won't .

Actually none of the participant request escrow yet.
This post was the post you made immediately after you said that you prefer monbux to be escrow. You also appear to be rather active in this thread, the only person supporting Carra23, and the other people who might have been more active then you have been either trying to get an escrow deal to build their reputation or are calling Carra23 out as needing to use escrow.
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