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14661  Economy / Reputation / Re: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) on: June 16, 2020, 04:59:00 PM
As for this, I am not important user on this forum, and I bet I will never be on DT1&DT2 list
You've reached DT2 2 months ago. According to BPIP, cabalism13 (who was on DT1 at that time) added you to his Trust list on the same day you left him this positive feedback:
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My BTC for his PayPal, he sent first and everything went fine.
Since you didn't risk anything, I'd say your feedback should be neutral instead of positive. Adding you to DT2 around the moment you left positive feedback looks like Trust selfscratching to me. You're not the only one, Cabalism13 has put three other users who left him positive feedback on DT2 by himself.

I've been following this topic for a while, and want to add my 2 3 Satoshis:

In general:
  • I don't think you should tag something that should be handled by Mods.
  • Before leaving feedback, ask yourself if it makes the forum better.
  • Try to make the feedback and tags you leave as accurate as possible. It's a reference for later on, and it's your "business card" as you present your judgement to the forum.
I can add a link to my topic to my quote: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

As I consider it an obvious example of trust abuse, I ask DT members to tag this user appropriately. I'm not going to retaliate personally as I don't see a lot of sense in that
In my opinion, the proper tag for Trust abuse is a neutral tag. See me doing this here. But you've left a neutral tag already for Lucius, so well done Smiley



@Lucius: May I suggest you change this tag to neutral? Your red feedback doesn't fit theymos' description:
Delete feedback
You can delete feedback by visiting the user's Trust sumary. Any feedback left by you has a link to (Delete) it:
      Trust summary for TrustTestUser loading...
Please delete feedback when it's no longer appropriate. You can for instance replace old negative feedback by new neutral feedback when the situation justifies it. If the situation is the other way around, I suggest to leave the old neutral feedback, and add new negative feedback.
You may also want to read this post from theymos where he shares his intention for the feedback system.
@cabalism13: I'm surprised you're not mentioned in this topic yet, while you're the one who put Lucius on DT2. May I suggest to reconsider this?
@other DT1s: I don't like excluding users over small things, so in my opinion it would be best if Lucius/Cabalism13 resolve this. Too many pages have been filled for this already!
14662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Did UTXO not exist in the very beginning of Bitcoin? on: June 16, 2020, 10:09:34 AM
I'll start by displaying a block explorer I'm familiar with: c9cfd7e0cda60ab0d21d3b7402b141953f48b3bebc9ca7bd32f1caa78c31a3fb on Blockchair.

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You can see 15Z5YJaaNSxeynvr6uW6jQZLwq3n1Hu6RX moved out 301 bitcoins, but it still had 7,944.06 bitcoins left.

This seems not abiding by the UTXO rule.
This transaction looks normal to me. Every address can have more than one UTXO, and in this case, 4 inputs from 15Z5YJaaNSxeynvr6uW6jQZLwq3n1Hu6RX were used, while other inputs remain untouched.

Think of each UTXO as a coin in your piggy bank: you can spend all your coins at once, or you can spend only some of your coins. You can't use fractions of your coins without getting change, so if you only have quarters, you'll need to get out entire quarters at once. But if you have 12 quarters and a dime, it's totally fine to spend 4 quarters and your dime without touching the remaining 8 quarters.
14663  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] WOLF.BET Signature Campaign - Hero/Legendary - Up to 0.008 BTC/week! on: June 16, 2020, 09:21:05 AM
Amount of merit EARNED in the last 120 days: 88
That's incorrect. Your post triggered this update, which shows you've earned 58 Merit in the last 120 days.

@Zwei: feel free to use my Merit-counting service, anyone posting the correct string triggers an update.
14664  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 16, 2020, 08:07:42 AM
Last of the V8s is an official owner of an extra large tin of ball polish, he gets a pass.
I'm still unsure what exactly he's being accused of. Wiping his Trust list, using only DefaultTrust, and then making a new Trust list doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.
Weird... I seem to see people get accused of all kinds of manipulation for doing nothing more than using the trust system pretty regularly.
That certainly happens, but it doesn't answer my question what Last of the V8s is being accused of.

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I guess all that matters is how shiny the user leaves the nuts after they are done.
I'm not confortable discussing another guy's nuts. Let's just say I'm more into girls Bitcoin Tongue
14665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.01BTC Monster puzzle on: June 15, 2020, 07:48:22 PM
Check your corners. They are not correct base.
Thanks, you're right. I was lazy and used this:
Just to make it easier this is the initial border
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ffff83c18001800180018001c003c003c003c003800180018001800183c1ffff
The correct code is:
Code:
ffffc3c38001800180018001c003c003c003c0038001800180018001c3c3ffff
I tested it, and it's still wrong Tongue I won't update my screenshot for this.
14666  Economy / Reputation / Re: Newbie account spreading malware using a fake link. on: June 15, 2020, 07:39:19 PM
i decided to post here so detective users can check his unedited posts using LoyceV tool which i can't use it correctly yet.
It's so easy:
Viewing unedited/deleted posts

How to use it
  • Find the msgID, userID or topicID you need. Let's use msgID 51902990.
  • Remove the last 4 digits from the msgID to get the directory name (if there are less than 4 digits, use 0): 5190.
  • Put everything together behind the (above) URL and add ".html": http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html.
This is what I do:
  • Copy the userID (2819111) to your clipboard.
  • Click http://loyce.club/archive/members/
  • Put your cursor behind the link
  • Press these keys: CTRL-V Backspace Backspace Backspace Backspace / CTRL-V .html Enter
(the ".html" are 5 separate keys)
That's it! When used it it, my browser remembers the URLs, so all I do is type "posts", "members" or "topics", my browser completes the URL, then paste the number, hit Backspace 4 times, type a slash ("/"), paste the number again, type .html and hit Enter. The whole thing takes about 3 seconds (after some practice). End result: http://loyce.club/archive/members/281/2819111.html. 3 of his posts have a "screenshot".
14667  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 15, 2020, 07:21:05 PM
Last of the V8s is an official owner of an extra large tin of ball polish, he gets a pass.
I'm still unsure what exactly he's being accused of. Wiping his Trust list, using only DefaultTrust, and then making a new Trust list doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.
14668  Other / Meta / Re: Possible bug with the "Self-moderated" function on: June 15, 2020, 07:01:36 PM
I've never experienced this bug. I still forget to click "self-moderated" sometimes though.

Would that work?
No. You'll lose the self-moderated status, and won't get it back if you move back the topic.
I vaguely remember this was possible back in the days, until someone pointed it out it was patched.

There's a related exploit that does work though: if you create a topic in Auctions, you can't edit or remove your posts. But if you move it to another board, you can edit or remove posts before you move it back. That shouldn't be possible either.
14669  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.01BTC Monster puzzle on: June 15, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
so the monster's part is green as well.
That's good to know, until now most of the monsters posted here are white.
For a green one, I tried Pacman:
Image loading...
Edited from an image I found on Google. So partial credits go to this link, which I can't verify because I block that site via my hosts file.
14670  Other / Meta / Re: [TELEGRAM] Yet Another BitcoinTalk Notification BOT (merits, mentions, topics,+) on: June 15, 2020, 03:58:56 PM
so I will think of a better solution. Cheesy
Send them a link to the archived topic Smiley
14671  Other / Meta / Re: notification for indirect post deletion? on: June 15, 2020, 03:56:41 PM
Because many times topic creator deletes the whole thread and we can not track it easily.
User's can't delete topics.
14672  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Opinions on Phoenix Wallet? on: June 15, 2020, 03:53:10 PM
Are you personally fine with recommending this to people as a hot wallet?
It depends: I don't trust the app (like most apps), so I wouldn't recommend installing it on a device that's in use for serious things. I've installed it on a tablet, and now that I think about it, the tablet holds some crypto already so it's not the best choice. But I'm running out of devices for testing Tongue
Apart from that, I'd recommend not only installing Phoenix, but testing several wallets and choosing on your own which you like most. These are the ones I've tested on Android:
  • BlueWallet (custodial LN, non-custodial on-chain)
  • Eclair (non-custodial LN, non-custodial on-chain
  • Wallet of Satoshi (custodial LN)
  • Mycelium (non-custodial on-chain)
  • Coinomi (non-custodial on-chain, also many altcoins and some Forkcoins)
  • Electrum (non-custodial on-chain)
  • Bither/bitpie (I used this for low-value Forkcoins but nowadays it mostly crashes when I try that)
The usual disclaimer applies: "never send more than you're willing to lose", especially when using LN. But by all means, throw a few bucks tens of thousands of satoshis at it, and try it. Send from your LN-wallet, to a LN-casino to, to your other wallet, to another LN-casino and back to another one of your wallets. You can do all this in less than a minute, which is just amazing.

As for easy LN, I think BlueWallet and Phoenix both have their use case. I've been using BlueWallet a lot longer, so I'd like to know how you think they compare.
14673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: speeding up transactions? on: June 15, 2020, 12:09:21 PM
I am not sure that this "average transaction fee" works in practice. I tried several times the described CPFP method and it worked as a charm.

If 1st transaction 7000 bytes, so minimum fee for it 7000 satoshi (for legacy addresses, for segwit the min allowed fee is 30% less). The 2nd transaction has 192 bytes size, and paying for it 15000 satoshi means approx 78 sat/bye. If the blockchain average at that moment 25-30 sat/byte, transactions in my example are mined very fast (actually within the next 1-2 blocks). The 1nd transaction fee 2 times more than the average.

However considering the clever average approach, the actual average fee per byte is just (7000 + 15000)/(7000+192) = 3.05 sat/byte. The average fee is 10 times less than the average, so such transactions should be postponed by clever miners.
My assumption until now what that HCP's theory is correct. It would be interesting to test your "trick", by sending a second transaction from a confirmed input with slightly higher fee than the average. If you're right, the CPFP transaction should confirm before the second transaction. If that's correct, (some) miners are dumb and this would be a really cool trick to reduce fees.

Instead of making a second transaction, you could also look at all transactions in the same block, and see if there is any transaction that has a lower fee than your average.[/quote]

There must be something else that happened in your previous transactions like 'cleared mempool' due to faster blocks
or the "<1mb from tip" range is actually 3sat/B at that time.
Johoe's Bitcoin Mempool Size Statistics shows the fee can drop quite a lot once a single block has been minded, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3 sat/byte transaction included even when your wallet says 30 sat/byte is needed. In my experience, many wallets are just bad at fee estimates.



In general, to reduce fees:
  • Consolidate your small inputs when you're not in a hurry.
  • Use native SegWit (Bech32; addresses starting with bc1q....
  • Use coin control: manually select which inputs you're going to use. Don't use more inputs than needed. This reduces the transaction size and thus the fee.
14674  Other / Meta / Re: Users who Created or Wiped their Trust list - weekly data on: June 15, 2020, 09:36:44 AM
this user is wanting to become a merit font - which down the track could be used as a means to repay being voted up here and now.
Maybe. Maybe some people added me to their Trust list because I've sent 13239 Merit to 1744 users in 6624 transactions. With 206 Trust inclusions, it's probably even likely one or more users added me for the wrong reasons. But that's not something I can stop, nor is it something I'll change my Trust list or Merit habits for.
Come to think of it, it's also likely some users get excluded because they Merit certain posts.
14675  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin block data available in CSV format on: June 15, 2020, 09:28:45 AM
Having this information in csv means that we can see what is the biggest fee (for example) or the biggest difficulty, right?
Right.
14676  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance on: June 15, 2020, 09:25:06 AM
In Ratimov's Russian translation, FontSeli asked how this can be useful for a normal person (thanks Google Translate). I'll answer this here.

I can think of several other uses:
  • Say you have a list of your old Bitcoin addresses and want to know if they hold any balance. But you don't want to let any block explorer or Electrum server know which address you're looking at. By downloading all addresses, you can easily do a local search without anyone else knowing which address you're looking for.
  • I've also seen cases where someone has an incomplete Bitcoin address, and wants to know if it's worth to pursue recovering the private key. Block explorers don't let you search for incomplete addresses. As a rediculous example, here are all funded addresses that contain "Loyce":
Code:
1LoyceVSbrv3CP3jT12qVYrNSbrqz4FL5q      1499000
1PKDzdoRNoP1LoyceZLT1VwNsvP2GBuxk6      100000
1F9Q7dzMyFBkrNQvdo4ECLL5DvLoycewSw      71917
17YTjpKVtRLAVP6igaztot5Loycegd5igR      70701
1MakvXVkoAGJXhbbTEAM3Loyce6LibBaEQ      31590
14677  Other / Meta / Re: Users who Created or Wiped their Trust list - weekly data on: June 15, 2020, 08:57:55 AM
Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso
Peloso did much worse:
~peloso
A red trusted Merit abuser who's trying a hostile takeover of DT to clear his red trust.
Update May 6, 2020: peloso abused his DT1 powers to shower one (or more) users with negative feedback, while increasing his own Trust score (Trust selfscratching).

Not very trustworthy behaviour.
I wouldn't call only making some changes to your Trust list untrustworthy. It would be a different story if it includes a PM to all users asking to include him too, and so far I haven't received such a PM.
I think most users didn't even notice the inclusion. I didn't notice it myself until you posted it here (I overlooked the "NEW" in the long list):
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Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (54) 5433 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-13_Sat_05.02h)

LoyceV's judgement is Trusted by:
74. NEW Last of the V8s (Trust: +8 / =0 / -1) (3324 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

(sorry Loyce for cluttering you thread,
It's okay, this topic doesn't get much discussion anyway, and it doesn't interfere with my weekly updates.
14678  Other / Meta / Re: notification for indirect post deletion? on: June 15, 2020, 08:39:55 AM
I think piggy and loyce were hosting telegram bots
I've never created a Telegram bot. TryNinja made one last month.

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for this you could ask them if it's possible to trace the modlog for this (looks like it's "topic removed" followed by the topic number
This could actually work! I already have a list of all posts in a topic for posts made in the last 10 months. TryNinja has the same data.
@TryNinja, can you add this to your bot? You could send a notification to all users who posted in a thread when it gets trashed. Unfortunately, that will also include users who's posts are deleted (by themselves, by the creator of a self-moderated thread, or by a moderator) because there is no easy way to trace deleted posts.
I could make something myself, but I can't do notifications and this fits a Telegram bot much better.

I'm still scraping all older posts (example). This will be done around August. After that TryNinja can have the data (probably around 60 GB) to include all topics (except for hidden boards).

There's a complication though: yesterday, I posted in this topic as a warning, knowing it would get deleted after my report. The user was Nuked, and the deleted topic didn't show up in modlog. That means topics created by Nuked users should also trigger a notification, and I didn't keep track of which user created which topic. Once I'm done scraping all posts, I could get this data again by checking which user made the first post in each topic (without downloading 5.25 million topics again).

Example:
The latest deleted topic in modlog is this topic. It has posts by 2 users, chote85 and mikeywith. I don't think I've ever had a topic deleted, but I assume chote85 will get a notification. So only mikeywith needs to receive a notification. Ideally, it should include a link to his original post because it's quite a loss of his effort.

Thats a problem for me because I cant identify the topic.
Does this help? See all unedited (or deleted) posts made by ShowOff.
I also have this planned:
Todo:
When I have the time, I'll create something to classify all posts in a requested topic as "unedited", "deleted and archived", "edited within 10 minutes" or "edited after 10 minutes". But that will only be for one topic at a time, you can't easily check all posts.
Another Todo: I should create this per user, that could prove very useful. Deleting a post would make that post stand out more!

Might be done as an on-demand service
Mine as mentioned above will indeed be on-demand only.
14679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.01BTC Monster puzzle on: June 14, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
I wonder how many potential combinations there are to solve it?
Assuming symmetry, and assuming not touching the green boarders by a "diagonal" pixel: 288230376151711744 combinations.
14680  Other / Archival / Re: IP limits on: June 14, 2020, 05:05:58 PM
Excuse my ignorance but isn't posting more resource-intensive than loading a page and scraping its contents (server side)!
One page holds up to 20 posts. My guess is that takes more resources to load than adding just one post.

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OT, what about adding a feature for bulk reporting
The reason you can't report posts from a user's post history, is that the validity of a post can depend on other posts in the same topic. That makes bulk reporting tricky too: you'll still need to check each post individually.
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