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14661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 04, 2013, 02:58:16 AM
Please don't take this the wrong way.  Ayn Rand was very critical, satirical and at times, savagely insulting to large groups of people, broadly, working for/believing in the collectives.

Someone who saw differently would of course be insulted.

I guess you could say that would have been intentional.

But that has nothing to do with the merits of her system of beliefs in capitalism.  I think it's fair to make that distinction.  EG, her philosophy could be correct and optimal, but you might find it disgusting.
14662  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 03, 2013, 11:52:33 PM
Got it....by the way, if you like dystopian films, eg Mad Max Beyond ThunderDome, Idiocracy, etc, Atlas Shrugged are movies worth watching.  Two out, final in production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF9QT43uDQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZWuz4t5ng

Yeah, I thought they were all right. I think the casting choices improved the second film, but I didn't really see in either anything that preached to anyone other than the converted. However, I understand that John Galt's speech will start halfway through the fourth film and end as the climax to the sixth.  Wink
Definite Lovecraftian manaical steadfast pursuit of the Objective premises.

Many  believers in Rand got it wrong.  Galt got it wrong with his speech.  Maybe he was pissed off because they called him in to save the world.
14663  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 3.1.4: modular ASIC/FPGA, GBT, Strtm, RPC, Lnx/OpnWrt/PPA/W64, BFLSC on: August 03, 2013, 09:10:17 PM
ya i had the same problem when i  was only mining with 4, till i added the other 28, seems you can use the arrow keys up and down to scroll the miners list, also the important info stays up top hash rate/error rate /%/etc..

Hope this helps..

Icon
WAIT!!! You mean you hit the UP DOWN keys and you go...

UP OR DOWN!!!

I'm an idiot today....
14664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 03, 2013, 09:03:56 PM
There is money to be made in research that shows that there is global warming.

I know from experience that when doing studies for the government, the first question that comes up at the meeting before the study is done is "what answer do they want?". I did simulation coding for military radio technology. They would usually come to us to see if a particular configuration of radios would have a bottle neck or if there would be coverage during a battle. With radio technology there are so many factors to simulate that you can tweak a few numbers and get very different results. Both legitimate based upon the limited ability to model every single aspect of the situation. So we tend to follow the trail that leads toward the result the customer is expecting, or as close to it as possible with plenty of data to back it up.

That may work for the military, but it doesn't work for scientists.  You do know that the people who give out government grants are other scientists, right?  Not politicians or someone who would benefit from either answer.


REALLY?  Let me check my science book from a few decades back.

Yep, Piltdown man has a whole chapter.

Lol...
14665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: August 03, 2013, 08:49:50 PM

Generally speaking, it should not be terribly difficult to overload or confuse many of the survailence systems when the details of how the function are leaked or inferred.  Similarly, sprinkling a little extra 'doubt' into things makes the systems vastly less usable.  At least unless things get so bad that there is summary punishment on suspicion.  We see this (summary execution based on suspicion) in the 'signature strike' drone activity, but so far only on foreign soil.  If/when widespread use of the general technique moves domestic in a big way there will be a significant social backlash since white people will have friends and relatives who are impacted.

Along these lines, I by happenstance receive a spam mail every few minutes because I've owned my domain for decades.  I also invent a new e-mail address for each different use.  It was not my initial plan to thwart analysis, but it's probably causing a lot of grief for the poor schmuck who pulls me up on his XKeyscore terminal.


Most of the posters to this thread I have learned something I did not think of previously.

Rather unusual...
14666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 03, 2013, 08:02:51 PM
LOL, if there was a joke please explain it.  I just didn't get it.  Probably my stupidity.

I think her work could arguably be described as dystopian novels of the horror of collectivism.

Is that in line?

Pretty much. I just read that comparison of Ayn Rand's novels to the Lord of the Rings and thought, "hmm... wizards and elves? No, more like Yog-Sothoth."
Got it....by the way, if you like dystopian films, eg Mad Max Beyond ThunderDome, Idiocracy, etc, Atlas Shrugged are movies worth watching.  Two out, final in production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF9QT43uDQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZWuz4t5ng
14667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 03, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
The key is, what answer would get me the next contract or grant.

Cooling! Exxon/Mobil will then give you your next grant.



http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/08/03/unprecedented-july-cold-arctic-sees-shortest-summer-on-record-normally-the-high-arctic-has-about-90-days-above-freezing-this-year-there-was-less-than-half-that/

Evidence!

Smiley

Seriously, though.  I understand that new IPCC report has a substantial chop in the climate sensitivity value, so they are admitting the skeptics have been right, or the hysterical alarmists wrong, take your pick.  But there's no reason to read to or refer to that tome for scientific understanding, it's got it's own share of errors and omissions.  In fact the very idea of aggregating science into a single viewpoint is ridiculous.
14668  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 3.1.4: modular ASIC/FPGA, GBT, Strtm, RPC, Lnx/OpnWrt/PPA/W64, BFLSC on: August 03, 2013, 07:08:45 PM
Probably really dumb question here.  I'm running 94 Erupters/bfgminer 3.1.4/acer aspire netbook/ubunto 12.04.

How to list all the miners and their production?  the list truncates at screen length....

...so no way to know if some do not work or have errors...
14669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: August 03, 2013, 02:11:34 PM

Sweet!  A solution of this general nature will kill several birds with one stone.


I like it.  In fact since I've stopped using the Chrome spybrowser, I can start using it again just as a identity-spam machine.  Give someone a list of a million sets of personal data and he can generate a million identity-spam copies of Chrome.

Think of the possibilities:  Your spam against their evil.

Take that Google.

**********************

More general statement of the user's problem.

Request:  app on phone link to/read contacts private data?
Request:  facebook, app read contacts and private data?
Request:  Computer app, read and link to Facebook?
Request:  Linkedin, read contacts?
Request:  Google+, link to .....

And you have really no way to know what any of these services is actually doing, do you?
14670  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [NOW SHIPPING] #16 ASICMiner Erupter USB - .41 to .55 btc (CE + RoHS news) 1000+ on: August 03, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
Which hub is that?  Any link, please?

This is the only hub I could find that matches the product specifications, however it's $35 not $24.....

I've got two of those and the spacing between the ports is too narrow, it will only work for 4 eruptrs.

I am using the dub7 units.
14671  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 03, 2013, 05:13:12 AM
basically the problem with altruism is that its a myth, it doesn't actually exist. when you base a decision on faulty information it tends to lead to undesired and unexpected outcomes. so if you base a decision on altruistic considerations, and altruism doesn't exist, than we can expect your decision to lead to unexpected and undesired outcomes. this makes even the most well intentioned altruists dangerous.

Ayn was right about the dangers of altruism but i dont know that she ever properly articulated why altruism is so dangerous and even if she did it took her 1000 pages to accomplish what can be accomplished in a couple of paragraphs.
It was fully articulated in "the virtue of selfishness" and other non fiction works.  This was a major theme.  She viewed altruism as a primary tool that leaders used to produce unselfish (eg in the interest of the leader) behavior in groups of people.
14672  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 03, 2013, 05:05:25 AM
That assertion:

Plus, Atlas Shrugged is more like H P Lovecraft for libertarians.


...is totally flawed because it assumes a fairly uniform response (a) to Lovecraft (b) in the beliefs and attitudes of libertarians.  Neither, of course, is accurate.  Lovecraft was, and can be considered,  brilliant or just b-grade horror.  Libertarians, one subcategory is those who follow Rand, others have different views.

In turn I would make a wild guess that these comments are both by people who have not even read Rand's work, but I'll leave them to comment on that.

Either that or you took the comment to be far more serious than intended.

I meant that from a libertarian perspective, Ayn Rand wrote horror novels.
LOL, if there was a joke please explain it.  I just didn't get it.  Probably my stupidity.

I think her work could arguably be described as dystopian novels of the horror of collectivism.

Is that in line?

14673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 03, 2013, 04:58:25 AM
2x
14674  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 03, 2013, 04:41:33 AM
I thought global cooling was the new thing. Are people still on the global warming fad?

This is so confusing. Will we become less violent when the world cools down as the new fad suggests?
Who said global cooling?



Looks like the bitcoin difficulty graph  Cheesy
Will bitcoin get hot if the world warms?
Will bitcoin ice up if the world chills?
14675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: August 03, 2013, 04:33:45 AM

Actually being secretive is probably the most sure-fire way to call attention to oneself, and once under the microscope one will need a truly extraordinary amount of technical ability to operate privately.  Unless you are a geek among geeks you probably don't have much of a chance if you are a person of significant interest.
....
I'd disagree completely.   Here is why.  We routinely use SSL, is that "secretive"?  Nope, because it is common.  Many, many people use VPNs, if someone adopts such use is that "secretive"?  Nope.  Carry this forward with various other techniques and you see the flaw in the logic.  I recently quit using google's services entirely.  Does that mean I "called attention to myself?"

"Once under the microscope"Huh

REALLY?  Whose microscope exactly?

The NSA?  The IRS?  Eric Holder's crime gang?  Any of 50 commercial companies who want your data?

In my opinion, government and private company snooping falls into the malware/virus/worm category of nuisances.  And people have found anti virus programs to be very popular.  Similar for many other things that protect the little guy against "people who would steal their data".  So our protecting against outsiders is not new at all.


If you are just pilfering copyrighted material you probably don't have much to worry about.  Unless you come under a situation where someone wants to throw the book at you for some other reason.

Those who have either political or financial operations going on may wish to become familiar with packet analysis and the framework of backbone network taps exposed (most recently) by Snowden.  Or solicit the advice of someone who does understand these things.  Probably also someone who can build a full OS from source code.

It may also be worthwhile to consider how to achieve necessary network communications using systems which can operate in 'batch mode' rather than in real-time.  High and random latencies probably have the potential to be very difficult to analyze.  Indeed, the small packet size and 10 minute block frequency are one of the things that gave me a lot of hope for Bitcoin in the early days.  It already has several features needed for security in this regard.

Again, run-of-the-mill privacy buffs probably don't have much to fear.  This because they don't have much to hide and because failure is an option.


I think you did not grasp what I was saying (but in response, you've made some very interesting points about latency I'll look into).

The right question is not the extent to which one has done wrong and must act to cover it up or hide it.  That's the actual reverse of the right question.

Assume that political coupled with commercial forces will act to protect their entrenched interests, using the data.  Assume this is a general current and future trend, and that it does not pertain to any particular party or leader.  Assume that it is a problem world wide, over, let us say, the next three decades.

The right question is the nature of the future of freedom.
14676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 03, 2013, 04:21:15 AM
Can't you guys just read the IPCC report?
That sounds really really boring....

That's like some couple thousand pages pap refined to the promulgated truthies by the dirty dozen, right?
14677  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Bfgminer.org - Malicious virus website on: August 02, 2013, 03:37:21 PM
Hi -

I tried to download bfgminer today, and from Google this came up, #2 in the rankings (link destroyed so you cannot accidentally load it)

bfgminer . org

The site does a pretty good job of looking authentic.

Clicking on 64 bit, you get a mass of browser hijacks and other things downloaded.  They are definitely malicious loads and after they are installed, they prompt you to install additional ones.  If you want to try this to see, please do it in a virtual machine under vmware or such, not on one of your production machines.

I hope that this website is not the product of the guys that wrote the program and support it.

8/10/13 Verified, it is not the work of those that wrote bfgminer.
14678  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Portion of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are into Ayn Rand? on: August 02, 2013, 01:26:28 PM
(Plus, Atlas Shrugged is more like H P Lovecraft for libertarians.)

The difference between H P Lovecraft and Ayn Rand is the same difference between this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWVk3h2SA8

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3W6yf6c-FA

If you have a point, it is not clear what it is.  This is both your fault in the two video analogy, and that of the assertion which you responded to.  That assertion:

Plus, Atlas Shrugged is more like H P Lovecraft for libertarians.


...is totally flawed because it assumes a fairly uniform response (a) to Lovecraft (b) in the beliefs and attitudes of libertarians.  Neither, of course, is accurate.  Lovecraft was, and can be considered,  brilliant or just b-grade horror.  Libertarians, one subcategory is those who follow Rand, others have different views.

In turn I would make a wild guess that these comments are both by people who have not even read Rand's work, but I'll leave them to comment on that.

14679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: August 02, 2013, 12:14:03 PM

Actually being secretive is probably the most sure-fire way to call attention to oneself, and once under the microscope one will need a truly extraordinary amount of technical ability to operate privately.  Unless you are a geek among geeks you probably don't have much of a chance if you are a person of significant interest.
....
I'd disagree completely.   Here is why.  We routinely use SSL, is that "secretive"?  Nope, because it is common.  Many, many people use VPNs, if someone adopts such use is that "secretive"?  Nope.  Carry this forward with various other techniques and you see the flaw in the logic.  I recently quit using google's services entirely.  Does that mean I "called attention to myself?"

"Once under the microscope"Huh

REALLY?  Whose microscope exactly?

The NSA?  The IRS?  Eric Holder's crime gang?  Any of 50 commercial companies who want your data?

In my opinion, government and private company snooping falls into the malware/virus/worm category of nuisances.  And people have found anti virus programs to be very popular.  Similar for many other things that protect the little guy against "people who would steal their data".  So our protecting against outsiders is not new at all.

14680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 02, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
......

As for climate change my opinion is this, it is incredibly arrogant for anyone to claim they know anything about the Earth from barely a century's worth of data, the planet is millions of years old as far as we know so it's a bit like with religious people where they claim the earth only existed for a few thousand years because their bible was written that time ago.
The 'millions' is a typo, but you are sort of right.  Many of the planetary epochs do not pertain to current day climate, the last some million years certainly are similar.  And they are dominated by ice ages, with periods of warm weather in between.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg

Ice ages, like doomsday asteroids, and like Carrington events, are truly something to be feared.  Unlike asteroids and Carrington events, there is no reason to attempt to prepare for an ice age.  

But the consequences of "global cooling" would be a thousand times worse than any issues from a 2C temperature rise.

So yeah, if you want to get on the new trendy cause, try out global cooling.  Do your share to save the planet.  After all, we've only got one.   And if the world population shrinks by 99%, there would be a lot less crime and rapes in the world.
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