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1481  Other / Archival / Re: Where is the current absolute bottom of Bitcoin? on: January 23, 2022, 08:25:07 PM
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That's awful. We've just begun the Bitcoin winter (according to past cycles) and we are already bleeding so much. Almost all of the top 100 coins are down 20% just today. From the looks of it, it's going to be rough. I don't even know if it's good to invest right now.
even now it will be more than that I think in a decline because indeed they have not shown signs of an increase there.
Talking about a good investment or not, actually it still tends to be good and even very good I think because investment is talking about the long term while the decline now is relatively short term and is not related to long term investment.
but if you want to fit then use your analysis and then invest according to the price you want there
1482  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $34k the bottom?? on: January 23, 2022, 07:59:10 PM
$34k is like 50% of the last all-time-high, it's already a huge drop, however, if we compare it to the prevent bull runs and the subsequent downfall, it is about 80%.

So I will say that this is not the absolute bottom yet, maybe we can see another massive drop in the next coming months. But don't take things negatively, just continue to buy at this dip and accumulate BTC and then just HODL for long term.
yep, I agree with what you're saying maybe it hasn't reached that point yet and there's still a pretty high chance of looking to that point although I don't know when but I'm pretty sure the low point will be more than this.
on the other hand talking about hodl actually this is the current obligation.
other than that don't forget that bitcoin is an asset for the long term not for a week or two because it's not very effective.
1483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 23, 2022, 07:33:31 PM
Napoli is now winning versus Salernitana and it will be easy 3 points at this stage.
Yep, Napoli won easily in this match and it was according to predictions because their opponent could be said to be quite easy I think.
on the other hand I actually hope they can score more goals after Veseli's red card. but until the whistle the match ended the goal did not increase because indeed they seemed to lose in attack, besides that Salernitana also focused on their defense
1484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Under $39k, what's next? on: January 23, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
and yes, as you said, even now we are in a phase that is worrying because indeed the decline is continuing.
but I also agree by saying that this is not the end of crypto.
take it easy, enjoy the moment and continue to wait and hold on to the assets you have.
don't be too careless with a decline like this, selling assets is not the right thing especially when we are experiencing losses
The current price decline is always expected since we are in a bearish season and as long as it stays in the market, bitcoin and altcoins prices will drop more. Bitcoin is already at $34,527 so this may develop fear to all those bitcoin hodlers who's not used to the market. But if you know the market well and you understand well enough that bitcoin will always recover even from its deepest dip, then there's no need to fear, but let's be greedy instead so we can buy more bitcoin and established altcoins while the opportunity is around.
The experience of being here for a long time will give a different impression compared to those who are new and still follow influencers to invest.
I quite agree with what you say although it is recommended not to be greedy but of course now is a different matter.
as long as we have unused money then it is not wrong to be greedy for some time because this is quite profitable, Not for now but future profits will be very good to see
1485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 23, 2022, 05:55:38 PM
it was really a thrilling last minute for madrid, even though the score ended in a draw but i'm sure many fans and bettors were disappointed with the results obtained in this match
I don't know what happened with Madrid, in 2 games against Elche they were very difficult to score. even indeed in this match they had to work hard and exert full strength and even had to fall behind with 2 goals.
Their attackers were so stressed by the locks of Elche players, on the other hand it was very difficult for them to penetrate the goal guarded by Edgar Badia.
fortunately there was an elder goal in the last minute which became a savior for them.
1486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 22, 2022, 06:27:11 PM
now Sevilla - Celta Vigo at 0:0. 10 minutes have passed with zero goals. Sevilla has got 48% of winning probability Celta Vigo has 21% and rest went to draw. Expecting minimum of 3 goals for the 2nd top most team Sevilla today.  Celta Vigo has own Real Betis on 2nd Jan with 2:0 which was really unexpected win. A lovely play. So today, everyone must be closely watching this game. Will wait and watch if Celta Vigo surprise everyone.
a pretty good game shown by celta vigo in this match, although indeed they continued to survive in this match but they made attractive movements and did not waste their counter-attack opportunities.
I think this will be a win for celta vigo even though there will still be a second half but if you look at the movement of the sevila players, as long as they don't change their strategy I think defeat will definitely be theirs
1487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Under $39k, what's next? on: January 22, 2022, 06:02:43 PM
In fact, if you say what's next from the movement of bitcoin, even everyone doesn't know because this kind of thing is very difficult to use as a reference.
what we can do maybe only speculate on the analysis technique that we do and even then it is not certain the truth.
but maybe something is certain here regardless of what will happen later, a decrease or increase of course in the end everything will return to normal even though we don't know when.
I think the market will become more dump because bitcoin will fall even deeper as its heading below $30k. Honestly, people are in a panic right now seeing bitcoin price is facing a terrible drop and with altcoins too since they are even more affected. The whole market is certainly in a bloodbath. But hey, this is not the end of crypto. This is part of the bearish cycle, and we all expect to drop their value. But eventually, everything will be back to normal again once the market is trap with positive news that will lift the prices of all coins that have chances to recover.
and yes, as you said, even now we are in a phase that is worrying because indeed the decline is continuing.
but I also agree by saying that this is not the end of crypto.
take it easy, enjoy the moment and continue to wait and hold on to the assets you have.
don't be too careless with a decline like this, selling assets is not the right thing especially when we are experiencing losses
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 22, 2022, 05:45:58 PM
The Milan - Juventus game is going to be really important for both sides. Milan got a very unexpected result against Spezia and they would definitely want to defeat Juventus in this game. But their job is much harder now. Because Juventus' recent form is really great. They haven't been losing in the Serie A for a long time. They are one of the hardest opponents to beat these days. Milan should play aware and maybe they can win by one goal. But it still seems really difficult.
juventus is currently in a good trend and the last few wins will surely get their spirits up in the face of milan at the moment.
maybe in terms of position milan are quite superior at the moment but in terms of performance they are almost the same now and even juventus are superior if you look at their last few matches.
but even so, milan certainly cannot be underestimated, especially since they will be competing at home.
I think there will be a draw in this match.

I think Juventus might surprise Milan in this match. Milan is in a bad for with losing the last match against Spezia while Juventus is currently dominating and looking for those top 4 spots so i think we can expect maybe 1-2 for Juventus in this match.
it was indeed a blow for milan, but on the other hand I think they will quickly forget this because indeed if they are still remembering defeats like this it will only make them weaker.
On the other hand, Juventus are currently still having problems in their front and midfield although indeed in the last few games they can win. but the gap is still clearly visible.
I will still stick with my stance by betting for a draw in this match
1489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 21, 2022, 08:49:16 PM
The Milan - Juventus game is going to be really important for both sides. Milan got a very unexpected result against Spezia and they would definitely want to defeat Juventus in this game. But their job is much harder now. Because Juventus' recent form is really great. They haven't been losing in the Serie A for a long time. They are one of the hardest opponents to beat these days. Milan should play aware and maybe they can win by one goal. But it still seems really difficult.
juventus is currently in a good trend and the last few wins will surely get their spirits up in the face of milan at the moment.
maybe in terms of position milan are quite superior at the moment but in terms of performance they are almost the same now and even juventus are superior if you look at their last few matches.
but even so, milan certainly cannot be underestimated, especially since they will be competing at home.
I think there will be a draw in this match.
1490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Under $39k, what's next? on: January 21, 2022, 08:23:30 PM
In fact, if you say what's next from the movement of bitcoin, even everyone doesn't know because this kind of thing is very difficult to use as a reference.
what we can do maybe only speculate on the analysis technique that we do and even then it is not certain the truth.
but maybe something is certain here regardless of what will happen later, a decrease or increase of course in the end everything will return to normal even though we don't know when.
1491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 21, 2022, 08:05:54 PM
New rumors with Dembele future on Barcelona and Xavi ask him keep extended new contract or leaving club before January window transfer close, I think have threat for Dembele not to beat around the bush in contract negotiations with Barcelona, ​​even as a result of his actions in delaying a contract extension he was not included when Barcelona faced Bilbao in the Copa del Rey. Barcelona should try to find a club that is willing to accommodate Dembele and is willing to pay a high price for the transfer fee.

I think it should be like that, I think, but the problem is that Dembele's price and salary are still a problem for his new club because Dembele's price and salary are still quite high, but on the other hand his performance is still very chaotic because if you look at it now, he is even more numerous. seen in treatment for injuries than on the soccer field.
actually he is a pretty good player but the injury problem he currently has is still very difficult to overcome
1492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 20, 2022, 08:52:29 PM
Here's how unexpectedly things turned out for Real Madrid. Removal and missed goal. I would be very surprised if Real Madrid can't equalize in extra time and are knocked out of the cup. Yet Yelche is a team of a significantly lower class. Many players probably bet today on the victory of Real Madrid in regular time. At the 108th minute, Isco equalizes the score, I think that even in the minority, the real should at least bring the match to penalty shoot-outs, and then everything will depend on the young Lunin.

Real Madrid with a shocking win in extra time. Sadly i had Real Madrid to win in regular time and i lost my bet but still what a win by Real Madrid scoring two goals with only 10 players so late in the game. Biggest win of the season currently.
same with you, I also lost my bet because of this Cheesy
I'm proud to be on the side of Real Madrid because it's quite clear and it's true that Real Madrid won but with extra time.
but it's okay at least my bet is still pretty accurate for madrid even though i got nothing there.

I think they deserved to win even though they did play with 10 men because indeed they dominated from the start of regular time to extra time.
but on the other hand Elche's defense was really good in today's match
1493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I Predict $20,000 for dogecoin in 5years time on: January 20, 2022, 08:30:25 PM
dogecoin has an invaluable advantage that other cryptocurrencies do not have. With dogecoin, We get the benefit of fixed inflationary currency which bears the features of current fiat currency.  However, if we look at the graph of people's interest across dogecoin on google, we can see that it is going down compared to last year.
because indeed their hype has started to slowly wear off after doge is known as coin manipulation and many people are trapped there.
and now I don't think doge is anything special anymore apart from coins that are pumped by Elon.
It is clear that the hype about dogecoin is no longer on the market.  It is also rumored that dogecoin will have a deflationary system which I think will ruin its uniqueness.  I don't think there is any possibility of dogecoin becoming $20000 after 5 years.  Before deciding the price of a coin, we should look at the overall issue first.  According to the circulating supply of dogecoin, if its price is 20k, what will be its total market cap?  It's just an unrealistic fantasy.  I think dogecoin could be around $1 by 2025 if they can really do any development work of this meme coin.
agree with what you said, this would just be an impossibility and anyone would know about it.
they have unlimited supply and it's very hard to see a coin whose supply is unlimited but expects to be a significant number.
This is an impossibility that cannot be achieved even if there are hundreds of pumps
1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Shiba Inu Coin a better investment than Dogecoin? on: January 20, 2022, 08:11:00 PM
In my opinion I think maybe both can survive for 10 years but I don't think these coins are worthy investments for long term. I don't see one of them that is better investment but it's better to find a coin that has a real project not just these meme coins.
Dogecoin has survived long.

And Shiba might do the same.

But a lot of things can happen for that span of time. We're all speculating what's with them for the next 10 years but if there's one thing to be sure by that time.

Bitcoin will stay.
it would be great if they did survive but for such a long time I'm not even sure they still exist.
many people say their community is quite good but on the other hand they are also very aware of course things like this will definitely be used for their own benefit and it is proven when they get pumped so many people take advantage of it and the negligence of beginners to take advantage and exit from there.
it could all happen again if indeed many naive people believed that they could rise higher
1495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 20, 2022, 07:44:10 PM
By the way, yeah. Inter had a really difficult game yesterday and could have lost to Empoli also. After seeing that Empoli turned the game around very nicely, I was thinking like Inter would be eliminated. They still managed to advance to the next stage of the tournament despite Empoli's awesome effort. And I think that this proves how much Inter want the Coppa Italia title also. But when the Champions League starts again, we will see how much Inter will be able to care about the Coppa Italia.
Yesterday Inter saved the situation in the last minutes, I didn't watch the match, but the statistics show that Inter dominated the whole game. There are not so many games left in the cup to reach the final, I think that at this stage the team will not stop. It would not be bad at all to win the league and the cup this year, but I think that Juventus can qualify for the cup, because now their game is returning to the proper level.
they dominate even almost all lines and they have full possession of the ball but in this match they almost lost.
but undeniably this is a pretty good match for empoli even though they lost.
they managed to survive throughout the match and even managed to steal 2 goals that put them in the lead temporarily. but it's a shame that goals from ranocchia and sensi ruined their victory that was already in sight
1496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 20, 2022, 03:42:32 PM
Something is happening at Barcelona. Xavi has confirmed that a quick decision about Dembele should fall. His contract runs until June 2022, so something has to happen. Extension or transfer in the winter. He was bought in 2017 for 140 million and currently he is still worth 30 million. What an extremely bad deal.

I always say this too. Ousmane Dembele has been one of the biggest disappointments for Barcelona. They poured incredible amount of money just to buy him once. But he has never performed very well and met the expectations. A player who is worth 140 million euros should be able to play extraordinarily well. Dembele has had problems here and Barcelona are very regretful for buying him now. And even if they extend his contract and sell him by taking a transfer fee, it would still be so much below the price they signed him. So I think that it is the best for them to sell him now.
at that price I don't think it will be too bad even if it is a loss.
Dembele is something that failed for Barcelona because apart from his mediocre performance, the price is quite expensive. he also only spends his time in the barcelona treatment room I think Cheesy
But if you look at Alemany's statement, I think it's clear about Dembele's clarity because he immediately stated clearly that Barcelona will sell Dembele no later than the end of January.
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 19, 2022, 09:52:22 PM
Eric Bailly, Abdou Diallo and Nicolo Casale are on the list of defenders that Milan want to sign in the January transfer window. I'm not sure about Eric Bailly, because this season, he only played 2x with United. If Bailly joins, it looks like it will just be a waste of money. I would agree if Casale was brought in by Milan, rather than the other 2. he is young and I think he can adapt with Milan.
Looks like yesterday defeat to Spezia made AC Milan wake up and start looking for transfer targets for them to bring in this season, in the match against Spezia AC Milan defense did look very fragile and maybe that what caused Milan to look for several players who are currently defenders, out of three the name you mention is clear if eric bailly is a bad choice, because so far he has not been able to show his performance at manchester, in my opinion baily is not a typical defender who has a strong physique, often loses in top ball duels and is also often left behind when facing attacker who has speed in running.

if I'm not mistaken they are also currently negotiating with the city about Nathan Ake.
than Eric Baily, I prefer Nathan Ake because apart from he is still quite young, his appearance is not bad, I think and if the city allows this player to leave, I think it is better than Baily, who is still not stable enough, Ake is better.
but it will be very difficult for a city like him to let go of this player
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 19, 2022, 09:17:42 PM
In the Coppa Italia tonight, it was a really great match for Juventus undoubtedly. They literally tore Sampdoria apart by their performance and the result they got. Juventus won by 4-1 and it wouldn't have made me surprised if they won by even a bigger score difference. I have never seen Juventus playing this much effective in attacking until this match. They showed their best performance and the supporters would like to see it continuing in the Serie A also. We saw the old spirit of Juventus in this match for sure.

It means that Juventus goes to the quarter finals and here Juventus is more fortunate to have to fight the winner between Sassuolo vs Cagliari
While Inter must fight the winner between Roma vs Lecce which I'm sure Roma will win the more interesting waiting for who goes to the final
I suspect that Inter can take all the trophies this season and 2 trophies have been secured.

I also have some doubts about it. Inter already won the Super Cup title by winning against Juventus by a dramatic goal. And now, they have the Serie A, Coppa Italia and Champions League ahead. I don't think that they can focus on each one of these tournaments equally. And among them, I think that they would run the risk of being eliminated in the Coppa Italia. And it would be the wise choice for them in case they are in a dilemma. So in this case, Juventus might win the Coppa Italia if they perform like now.
That's right, their focus will be disrupted for now because with a busy schedule and too much players are also not good which in the end will only make the players sick.
I think they should focus on one.
For UCL their chances are quite small because their opponent is Liverpool.
I think they will inevitably give up UCL in this case
1499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Shiba Inu Coin a better investment than Dogecoin? on: January 17, 2022, 04:22:19 PM
It's like Dogecoin. I'm sure the shiba inu will definitely go up and get its hype. but not for the long term because we can not see the ecosystem or the utility of siba inu tokens. So far shiba inu is still good to invest in for the short term but also has a high risk.
their hype will definitely exist at least once a year like in 2020 and 2021, on the other hand, but indeed things like this cannot be used as a tool for long-term investment because it will endanger assets.
i was in shiba because it was for my personal gain and once i got the profit i just got out of there.
right now it's actually almost the same, just wait for the right momentum for them and then enter at the right time to get profits again.
but it looks like it will take some time
1500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I have 1000 usd , where to invest , on: January 16, 2022, 07:26:19 PM
Try to make something with the capital and lookout for regular profit than long term profit. Even BNB is a good choice that has regular market variation.
That was the reason why i suggested bnb. but now the price of bnb is already reached high as well as also dumping since i suggested but positive side is, bnb still has potential to provide good returns. others top altcoins like matic, solana, ada which has good market variation as well as metaverse tokens like sand, theta, Enjin could also be a good choice to buy with those fund. Also wise to buy some more assest by divided main fund
BNB is worth as long term holding and 1000$ I think enough with daily trading or long term trading, I just can recommended with bigger and potential coin only never giving for investing with shit coin or other coin although listed on Binance. I think very risk except bigger and potential coin for investing trough with BSC network always become scam and dump price when developer make new contract again, every coin have problem when upgrade network or smart contract.
because indeed coins with potential are one of the things that are quite safe I think although there is nothing safe in this case but they are at least more defensible for long term trading and holding. I think it is better to recommend something like this than with coins whose origins are not clear and indeed these coins have potential in the future.
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