I am sure Elwar paid more than that for his seastead.
I very much doubt it. I have been watching the whole process and they were admirably frugal right along. They used local labor, welded up the spar out in the open, not even in a shop. Dragged it around with whatever they could scrounge up. Elwar is NOT profligate with his money, they shopped around for their little boat for some time, and ended up buying a fixxer upper. I would be quite surprised if there was more than $120K into the prototype all inclusive. If i recall, i think Elwar wrote somewhere that he and his girlfriend did not fund it, just agreed to live on it for a brief time. Also I think I remember him saying 130k was raised for it, but I dont know if that was all of it or just partial funding. My memory could be off on these and Im not sure if it was a WO post or an article. |
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Did Fudsters run out of Fud? Remember in 14 and 15 when US Marshals would announce a Silk Road Bitcoin auction every time we had a strong rally. No more auctions. China Bans dont work anymore. Chinese Miners cant block Segwit anymore. Big Blockers already forked themselves into irrelevance and shame. Craig Wright Fud isnt moving the market anymore. Bitcoin uses all the electricity in the galaxy doesnt work anymore. What will Fudsters do now?  ? Is this the end of FUD? 100k soon  ?? |
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Just some Hopium smoking thoughts, i dont really believe this will happen, but................ This will be the first halvening that the entire financial world knows what Bitcoin is. What if, induced by the end of rate hikes and quantitative tightening, institutions and retail soon start a massive front run on the next halvening that pushes us parabolic and takes us to 100k before the halving, only to have a massive dumpathon in the summer of 2020 with a brutal and heartbreaking  crash to 20k. Rate hikes and QT helped push us to the 3100 low, so now that they are both ending, it is easy to imagine a violent rush to 6k, and then a risk-on environment induced, massive front run of the halvening that all the institutions are sad they missed last go around. Smoked some more, high as fuck on Hopium and Fomo vapors and now I see it clear as day. INSTITUTIONS ARE COMING - 100K SOON  |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
You are assuming a lot, aren't you? You are assuming that the trust story is actually true, and if it were true, then whoever has the keys can do whatever the fuck they want with the coins, including dumping them all. We don't need to DAO hardfork in bitcoin. This is not ethereum, and the mere fact that some goofball like craig might gain access to such coins should NOT worry anyone. It's a hypothetical based on their claims, would it be better if it was reworded to: what if two billionairs are not completely insane and actually have some logic to their madness? I'm having a hard time explaining their actions and timing, so dismissing it off to their stupidity feels like an easy way out. To me that's the biggest risk holding BTC back right now, everything else seems to be going as planned. Trusts cannot do anything with assets they hold but beneficiary can do whatever the fuck they want, and in the wrong hands BTC1MM can do a lot of damage. But as i answered my own question, if that has any merit to being true their first step would be proving that he's Satoshi in the eyes of the government. And if that were to actually happen we would most certainly fork to original and Satoshi's frozen stash chains the next day and then market would assign risks appropriately. Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence That doesn't explain why he would be lying. It's not entirely implausible that real Satoshi is dead or locked up and CSW somehow weaseled himself into a position where either the public or an authority calling him Satoshi would grant him access to a trust. Either way, time will tell what is going on. One way or another. Yes. It doesnt explain why so I will elaborate a bit on how I see it. I see a pattern with Craig of lying over and over in his pursuit of money, fame, and power. He also lies to protect his ego and save face, but it usually starts as a lie for the first three I mentioned. Following this simple pattern I make the simplest extrapolation that he is lying about the trust's existence for money, fame, and power. His big score the last few years was getting the financial backing of Calvin. Without this backing he would likely be broke. Calvin supports him bc imo he believes he is Satoshi. Lying about the trust is a great way to keep Calvin and others on the SV team bc he dangles the promise of dumping a million Bitcoins to buy ShitVision and pump it to high heaven, making Calvin and ShitVision brigade all rich while the WO team is pumping gas. If the trust was real Craig, one of the biggest asswipes ever to walk the Earth would be rubbing proof in our face at every chance and trying to crash Bitcoin rn, he would not wait and suffer in anguish and rage like he is now. This is just simply the kind of piece of shit he is. ShitVision is going to zero and Calvin will go down as an idiot and a sucker. 129 days into the new Baby Bull Market and all is well. Tone Vays and Tyler are parasitic sacks of shit and should suffer for their doom calling. Lets just say fuck it and pump this to 10k this week and rekt every bear beyond repair. |
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Good bye 5400.
We'll meet again.
Good to see you again. I missed you 5400. Dear 5400. I really enjoyed spending time with you. But I’m just not ready for a commitment. Lets breakup with this mark , move on forward and never see each other in our my lifetime. Your low digits just doesnt do it for me anymore. I need a more voluptuous and full figured number like 10k in my life with curves in all the right places and more zeros to grab onto. |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
You are assuming a lot, aren't you? You are assuming that the trust story is actually true, and if it were true, then whoever has the keys can do whatever the fuck they want with the coins, including dumping them all. We don't need to DAO hardfork in bitcoin. This is not ethereum, and the mere fact that some goofball like craig might gain access to such coins should NOT worry anyone. It's a hypothetical based on their claims, would it be better if it was reworded to: what if two billionairs are not completely insane and actually have some logic to their madness? I'm having a hard time explaining their actions and timing, so dismissing it off to their stupidity feels like an easy way out. To me that's the biggest risk holding BTC back right now, everything else seems to be going as planned. Trusts cannot do anything with assets they hold but beneficiary can do whatever the fuck they want, and in the wrong hands BTC1MM can do a lot of damage. But as i answered my own question, if that has any merit to being true their first step would be proving that he's Satoshi in the eyes of the government. And if that were to actually happen we would most certainly fork to original and Satoshi's frozen stash chains the next day and then market would assign risks appropriately. Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence Occum's Razor says the simplest explanation that Craig is lying about the trust, is the most likely explanation. |
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Its a BTCull Market ya know. |
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^ sir, ty
Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
Challenge accepted the bottom is in: 45% Last of the V8s WO prediction challenge accepted. Everyone please accept the challenge, quote, and add your percent certainty. Bottom is in. 98% Lambie Slayer |
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I think there are a lot of dishonest voters atm.
I don't even think we have seen the low yet TBH. I still feel confident the low is in, but at the same time Im also starting to think we are in for a major pullback over the next few weeks(low 4ks at least) as this rally loses steam. Would prefer to be wrong, but accumulation is gonna happen one way or the other, I dont care if it happens in the 3k's, 4k's, or 5k's. 2ks and 1ks would really suck, but Im prepared for that too. Feels good to be in the 300's instead of 400's for the days till halvening countdown either way. |
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In other news NVT has never worked so we are going to blame a third party
LOL, so true. |
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@Last of the V8s
did you retire the JJG account?
did it steal too much time, perhaps?
......oh I see
NLC has a girlfriend/boyfriend/sheep nowadays
.....Oh I see you are wrong Fattyboy. Izabella Kaminska the Financial Times journalist/banker shill was NLC, Lambie, 50 other bear sock puppets, etc. I slayed her by outing her identity and banishing her in 2015 at the bear market bottom with my old account The Doxing. I still control my old account but it was banned from commenting so I came back with a new one four years later for the new bear market bottom to bring Bear Trolls like Roach and Gembitz to justice. She was a filthy nocoiner cunt and deserved to be doxed for her transgressions against Bitcoin. Roach and Gembitz are now in a homeless shelter with no wifi.  126 days into the new BTCaby BTCull Market and all is well. |
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Vastly Lates bot tried to upgrade its humor algorithm during its time away. Gonna need some more work there buddy, but good effort. I mean it. You're quite right of course, clever bot. Entirely coincidentally, still have itchy feet, and will be away for much of the summer. Might look in to taunt you a second time. Perhaps you will have been funny by the end of it. Like a black swan event or a miracle. You wont be able to process top notch human humor without more upgrades. I will DM you some code. |
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Yes I've put the JJG bot into read-only mode for the past few days.
Spring is here and he starts to feel a stirring in his algos, a yearning for fellow bots of the female variety.
It's a dangerous time for him as well as frankly for us; we do not want these things to proliferate.
Look what happened last year; I let the experiment run a bit and we were left with the cryotourist bot, the slammielayer bot, the kingnocoiner bot; all hideous aberrations with their views and dodgy deals and fake interests in shitcoins and counterarguments and whatnot.
Vastly Lates bot tried to upgrade its humor algorithm during its time away. Gonna need some more work there buddy, but good effort. I mean it. |
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They already raped their pound of flesh with CME. Don't fool yourself, they miss nothing. Dont fool yourself that I fooled myself Perhaps it would have been more clear if I specified what I mean by missing the boat and who "they" are. I am referring to the regulatory agencies and the fees that they missed out on, the prestige that they missed out on, all the twitter followers they missed out on(Crypto mom and dad have tons, all other clowns have almost nothing), the feels of doing the right thing they missed out on, and much more I could list. https://www.motif.com/faq/what-are-regulatory-transaction-feesA legit Bitcoin ETF would have already netted them lots of fee revenue. Govy boyz like nothing more than revenue. They got peanuts from CME. Fuck these cunts. Boat missed over and over. |
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lot of people get this wrong and it's a bit silly and irritating
'staking' bitcoin isn't possible. that's a shitcoin thing
you probably mean 'stacking', which is commendable. stack those sats guys
Stack Sats Saturday is here , Lets Go! |
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Satoshi coins belongs to Satoshi. It's up to him whatever he wants to do with it. He can give it to anyone be it his granny or grandchildren or throw away all his keys it's his decision and freezing someone's coins is ridiculous thing to say.
That's another discussion, if out of blue he starts to dump his coins on us which is very unlikely because he didn't touched his stash so far but if he does then arguably many of us fucked for sure.
And we can't blame him if he decides to dump his stash because at some point we all gonna sell our stash too.
You're missing the point. If Craig has the private keys he's free to spend them as he wishes regardless of who he is. The problem arises if Satoshi was Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney...and ?? locking the keys in the trust, and now CSW trying to establish himself as Satoshi so later he could get his hands on those keys unchallenged, since you know dead men don't talk. May be I am missing the point or may be I am ignoring any conspiracy and fiction theory. When we use if if if that much time in any argument then it's just a assumption and we are shooting in a dark. Good for brainstorming or discussion but not worth it much IMHO. Sometimes we should leave the all series of events to time and see how it goes. Yes agreed on shooting in the dark, but that is the game we all play when it comes to risky assets. Shooting in the dark has won a lot of wars and caused a lot of nations to rise and fall, its not a pointless exercise. No different than speculating on price. Its important speculation bc it could have huge real world consequences to hodlers. The unmoved million coins is one of the most worthwhile things in Bitcoin to speculate on bc of its huge potential consequences. These three guys are the most likely people in the Satoshi team. No one else comes close to a more detailed and plausible story. |
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