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1481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 26, 2015, 11:37:00 PM
deposits still dont work .   admin doesnt know what the frack they are doing

so this scrypt cc is dead ?
am i late to join this cloudmining ?
i calculate buy mhs and i get faster ROI than hashnet

YOU CANNOT WITHDRAW !!!!!!!!

Thank's for your reply/coment that can help me Smiley
now im research to other cloudmining (where i can get fast ROI + profit )

Screw Scrypt CC.

So far, the best option I have found for fast ROI + profit that seems legit, is Stakeminers. It is not conventional cloud mining, but POS. All investments are put together to stake as much as possible and maximize profit, and then we reap the rewards. The nature of the beast holds the potential of increasing rewards over time, instead of decreasing them. Read up on staking if you don't know the difference between POW and POS mining, and give Stakeminers a try Smiley In my opinion it is not selling a pipe dream, but a rather good business model that benefits all parties.

That's going to work great ...  Until one or more of the coins they are staking gets dumped and they get left holding the bag. Or when one of the coins they are staking gets dumped and the owner can pocket a bunch of bitcoins by claiming to have lost more in that dump than he really did due to the lack of transparency.

That idea would be ok if they collected various coins, staked them, and paid out the profits in the same coin. That way the users would have the level of risk for each coin that they choose, giving them bitcoins and allowing them to "diversify" them into various coins means that it really boils down to you sending him coins and letting him trade them for you. The staking gives some sort of backup plan, but that business model has a long history of failure, and way too many points of failure and/or ways to make a scam look like a failure.
1482  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining actually genuine on: August 26, 2015, 03:46:12 AM
I'm looking at all of the main cloud mining sites and most of which have fallen, will fall or are ponzis, so my question is, does cloud mining actually exist?

Yes it does exist.

 Now you need ask yourself can I make money on it?  maybe yes maybe no

How much can I afford to lose?

As for my pick for you  buy a little bit from bitmaintech.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151727.0;all


I have 9.99 btc and that got me 15th  I have been paid back about 1.355 btc.

  If I continue to be paid back my 9.99btc should grow to 10.4 btc  as you can see not a big profit.

Still though a little income from passive is pretty nice.   Compare that to a savings account you will make less interest then cost of living increase.

So .4 may seem small but compared to traditional it is a pretty good passive income.

You can withdraw your  original deposit from a savings account.

It does not make sense to run a legitimate cloud mining operation that is profitable for the users. If the miners are profitable they should just run them and collect the coins. If they are not profitable it doesn't make sense to pay the expenses of running the miners.

If they are going to take x btc from you and run miners and send you back less than x they aren't smart enough to hold my coins.
1483  Economy / Securities / Re: Gelfman Blueprint: 7-11% Monthly Return on Your Bitcoin on: August 25, 2015, 12:14:05 AM
It really is a shame that so many scammers exist online. It's a good thing there are at least some honest people out there still who do not lie or scam people to make a quick buck. Sometimes I wonder if anything in this section that is not a scam.

Couldn't agree more. I have a project I'd love to look into taking investors on with, but with the massive amount of scam attempts and such around here, I just feel like I'd lead myself into a dark hole and get my reputation destroyed over an honest opportunity. It sucks that people are too lazy to work anymore, and want everyone else to do it for them so they can reap the benefits. Can't even go to an online Bitcoin poker/dice/casino site anymore without a flood of people constantly begging for free money so they can gamble, then begging more when they lose it.

If you are honest you have nothing to lose. Just remember that the whole point of this is for everything to be public on the blockchain so people are going to be looking for that and expecting it. Also, make sure you have a way to generate bitcoins and explicitly define how you will handle things if there is a major price swing either way.

Those are the things missing from all the scams and how people can spot them a mile away.
1484  Economy / Securities / Re: Gelfman Blueprint: 7-11% Monthly Return on Your Bitcoin on: August 24, 2015, 03:09:53 PM
I did not mean to be misleading and I am glad Nick came in to clear everything up.

I want nothing but the best for the company.

So you made up an official looking account, lied, and sent out outdated information that wasn't supposed to be public? I'd hate to see what happens to companies you want to fail.
1485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 24, 2015, 02:26:32 PM
I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

If he was smart the scam would have drawn out much longer and he would have had more years before being put behind bars.

This scam could not last that long. There was nothing to it, people that fell for it don't have enough money for a long term scam. The fact that he was able to spin the cloud mining scam into a new coin scam is amazing to me.
1486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 24, 2015, 01:04:44 PM
sometimes I kinda wish that the site would just shut down and everybody moves on with their life....

but on the other hand it is pretty interesting reading all the crap on this thread and being invested in the site...wondering where will rewards go to next and for any news and updates from admin!

Well, i'm still going to stick to my belief that this is not a ponzi but rather a poorly managed cloud mining operation.  my $50/day rewards are now a thing of the past unfortuntaely and i'm down to $5 per day...still, better than nothin i guess!

How can you think that when there's zero evidence of mining? And all this nonsense coincides with nothing in the real world?
1487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 24, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?
1488  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of or investing in 'Mining Sweden'? on: August 23, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
So it looks like Mining Sweden is legit as they actually have the hardware doing the mining.
Shouldn't they be listed here then?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0

Is there an official Mining Sweden thread on bitcointalk? I only found one on litecointalk.

There was, but they ran away when asked about the vip shares possibly violating securities laws and for proof of their mining on the blockchain.

It's nice that they bought you dinner and that they have some miners, that doesn't make the whole thing viable.
1489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 23, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
dear users,

What if the site works 100% suddenly, after halving of LTC ?


wait patiently...

So the people with actual miners getting their actual mining rewards cut in half will somehow make this non existent 850 GH start pumping out coins?
1490  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 22, 2015, 02:40:06 PM
I wonder whatever happened to craig... who I suspect was tankjnr I believe based on facebook that was tankjnr's first name. He held some big bags. Think he was the only real account in the top 10s.

No, the real Craig was mentioned in the e-mails, forgot his last name but it's not tankjnr.

damn.... that was a big holder of hashlets. i think craig owned $400k usd across prime, genesis and zen ones. i thought it was an inflated account. does this mean the other top 10s were..... real?

how does carlos sleep at night?

on a bed paid for by craig and other people bad at math/common sense.
1491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 21, 2015, 04:29:26 AM
What is going on here?

OP cancels withdrawals, uses the funds to buy "KHS" on behalf of the people trying to withdraw, and rather than outrage this is the response?

BFD TURN OFF AUTO INVEST

The site just paid so I guess it is good for members.

The thing is that it still pays, just plagued with 'problems'.

It's almost beyond belief that anyone still thinks the site is "good for members" at this point!

we need to name the fact that it's tough to tell the difference between someone who is too stupid to see the obvious scam or someone is such a scumbag that they realize it's a scam but have to post shit like that in hopes of getting some other genius to step in and take the bag out of their hands.

I vote for shithead's law.
1492  Economy / Securities / Re: A few questions on: August 20, 2015, 04:21:50 AM
There are definitely legal barriers. Kickstarter, gofundme, etc offer rewards/product instead of profits to help avoid that stuff.

Figure out the laws before you do anything, especially if serious money is on the line.

My other piece of advice would be to be EXPLICITLY clear as to what people are paying for and how they will be getting paid back, especially with regard to the change in bitcoin price over time. If I give you 1 btc am i giving you 1 btc or $233, what are you going to give me back if bitcoins are worth 233 at the end? What if the price is 10 cents? 10k?
1493  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 19, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
Why haven't any of the leaders of the teams or foundations that were fucked over by Garza and are trying to put things back together told anyone about their trip to Boston to spill the beans?
1494  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anyone experience with GigaHash.org? on: August 19, 2015, 01:13:02 PM
@LsHallo No payment yesterday. looks like this will be the first one to fold due to bear run in the bitcoin market.

That has happened before, and is just a convenient excuse that will convince more suckers to try the next one. It would be very easy to prove that the price falling has made it not worth it to run the miners (although it would probably have to be much lower since users are paying for electricity) but no one has asked for proof of anything so far, why stop now.
1495  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 19, 2015, 12:35:25 AM
Are you refusing to tell us if someone is your brother?

I'm scared. I don't know what the SEC is.


Fucking gawtard, Homero left him out to dry without a lawyer and he's too retarded to take the fifth.

No one is hung out to dry. they are just trying to delay delay delay. This stunt bought a few extra weeks. that comment is not the comment someone truly hung out to dry would do. If he plead the 5th they would move on from him and go on to someone/something else (and get someone to try and figure out what he might say that could send him to jail).

It's kind of funny and it's nice to see something being done, but I still think we are far far away from money going back to "investors" (if that ever happens).

I'm pretty sure homero is going to run and leave carlos to burn, he didnt even give his mom dentist money

What is he going to burn about? If Josh ditches him he spills his guts. He didn't give his mom dentist money according to that email, who knows what has happened since then or what is really happening. He has to take better care of Carlos for the time being because Carlos has information from actually "working" for GAW.

You think carlos will happily sit in jail for contempt?

Not if Josh "leaves him to burn." Probably not anyway, but I have no idea what these people are thinking along the way. I'm not sure what carlos knows or what any of them think the end result will be, but I'm not sure why people think this wasn't planned by all of them. It was a rehearsed line that didn't make any sense. If he was hung out to dry he would be talking.
1496  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 18, 2015, 11:53:16 PM
Are you refusing to tell us if someone is your brother?

I'm scared. I don't know what the SEC is.


Fucking gawtard, Homero left him out to dry without a lawyer and he's too retarded to take the fifth.

No one is hung out to dry. they are just trying to delay delay delay. This stunt bought a few extra weeks. that comment is not the comment someone truly hung out to dry would do. If he plead the 5th they would move on from him and go on to someone/something else (and get someone to try and figure out what he might say that could send him to jail).

It's kind of funny and it's nice to see something being done, but I still think we are far far away from money going back to "investors" (if that ever happens).

I'm pretty sure homero is going to run and leave carlos to burn, he didnt even give his mom dentist money

What is he going to burn about? If Josh ditches him he spills his guts. He didn't give his mom dentist money according to that email, who knows what has happened since then or what is really happening. He has to take better care of Carlos for the time being because Carlos has information from actually "working" for GAW.
1497  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 18, 2015, 11:47:08 PM
Are you refusing to tell us if someone is your brother?

I'm scared. I don't know what the SEC is.


Fucking gawtard, Homero left him out to dry without a lawyer and he's too retarded to take the fifth.

No one is hung out to dry. they are just trying to delay delay delay. This stunt bought a few extra weeks. that comment is not the comment someone truly hung out to dry would do. If he plead the 5th they would move on from him and go on to someone/something else (and get someone to try and figure out what he might say that could send him to jail).

It's kind of funny and it's nice to see something being done, but I still think we are far far away from money going back to "investors" (if that ever happens).
1498  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 18, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
wow thats classic  Grin its almost like he is retarded
at last some satisfaction. these people need some harsh punishment  Kiss

Mumbly fuck halftard brother Homero doesn't have to put on a tard act. He always sounds like a 6 year old on two bowls of fruitloops. Random buzzwords repeated over and over with absolutely no actual content.

How do I upvote this?  

There's a lot of wisdom in PR's comment here.  A lot of scammers/bad actors/ignorants/incompetents/[insert adjective] dress their schemes/lack of knowledge/etc. in jargon and buzz words they think are prevalent in the industry and without actually explaining what they're up to.  In contrast, great ideas, even if complex, can be shared w/ simple language.  The benefit of the non-jargon approach is that simple language is transparent.  It allows for idea testing; it hides from nothing (like singing acapela instead of with a metal band).  It is inclusive, it invites questions.  In many cases in BTC world, a lot of losses could have been avoided by asking questions the jargon is designed to deter because people don't want to come across as stupid to the supposed industry professionals. Psychology has clearly become a tool for marketers and scammers in the bitcoin ecosystem, its imperative that people arm themselves with good questions and refrain from forking over their $ before legit answers are given.  

Of course, the pattern will repeat itself. For instance, I suspect we'll see another version of this from a certain BTC media company led by someone that speaks in jargon, hype, and platitudes and who doesn't appear to have actually worked in the field they claim to dominate (prior to what they're doing now).  This time, the victims are the employees who were paid to ask tough questions of market participants and failed to do it for themselves.  Its sad, really.  

Will repeat?

I can't get through the first post of 75% of the new companies/coins people attempt to launch on these forums because of jargon and nonsense.
1499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 18, 2015, 09:26:35 PM
I'm going to interpret this as a personal attack. HOW DARE YOU!


I stupid idiot, have lost everything. I used my savings.
I have debts because I can no longer work. I wanted to pay with the money of scrypt.cc.

Now I have even more debt.

Yes, it was totally stupid.

There were "only" 10 BTC. But it was all I had.
The savings of years are gone.

Will someone help me?  Sad

I promise I'll never do again Investment in such a shit. -.-

If you've left a few coins:
1C315qvAdJ7tdGiqnb1uHEEdrM5y45b5h3

Thanks  Cry

Me, too.

You were not stupid. Many many people put money into Scrypt.cc. It paid every day for almost a year and a half before site problems started. You are not alone. You are one of thousands.

I always try to avoid saying stuff like this because it does cross the line into personal, but sometimes it has to be said to help others avoid next one. Thinking "it paid every day for almost a year and a half" is more important than the fact that the multiple problems people were pointing out that showed how this was a scam IS stupid. Hopefully it didn't cost you and others that much money, but this was not bad luck, this was a bad idea and bad decision to invest.

It was obvious to some from day 1 that it was a scam, don't argue with those people now that you have finally seen the light, try to figure out what they saw, and make sure to look for that stuff the next time you try to invest, and remember that no one is going to give you money for free.
1500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: August 18, 2015, 04:22:42 PM
ATTENTION: CURRENT SCRYPT.CC INVESTORS!!!

To the attack dogs, yes we know .. we're idiots and we deserve to lose everything.. Ok? Happy!? Now please fuck off, this message is not to you or for you.

To those with stuck withdrawals - try sending one brief, clearly stated and polite support ticket, detailing all the withdrawals that you have that are shown to be stuck "In Queue".  I think there is so much that needs fixing on the server that they don't know where to start.

If you still have a substantial investment in SCRYPT.CC, ie. you are currently holding a large amount of KHS, as distasteful as it may seem you have no choice at this point but to hope and pray that the site is not closing and we are going to see some positive changes in the very near future.  It sucks I know, but you actually have to think and speak positively of the site, and do not threaten, get angry, or bash it here or anywhere else, or your chances of recovering any amount of your money will only decrease - yes, this sucks, because you, me, and everyone else are probably out of your mind with justifiable anger right now.

Lastly, do yourself a favour, again if you have any substantial amount of money still in SCC  .. put all the attack dogs here on IGNORE - they have nothing of value to give you, they certainly will not provide you any good advice and they only decrease the chance that you will recover your money - they just want you to burn, like they have in the past .. this is why they are so vicious, because they lost their asses in similar circumstances, and they want you to feel as horribly as they do.  Just put them on ignore and focus on those things that will increase your chance of getting what YOU need - which is your money back, or as much of it as possible - bashing the site will not help you, trying to threaten those who run it will not help .. as crazy as it seems, you have to believe there is a future at scrypt.cc, now more than ever .. even if it is pure self-delusion (.. the attack dogs will have a heyday with that one .. I put it in just to watch them go apeshit and waste their miserable lives responding with messages I will not read).

There is a slim hope, that investments are being made in the site, and we will see some very real and positive change soon - no, there is no proof of this,  and yes there is a greater possibility that the show is already over .. ranting and raving and trying to warn others, and freak out on anyone who has anything positive to say about SCC, is an absolute waste of YOUR time - it will not help YOU, which is all that you should be thinking about right now .. YOUR MONEY .. not someone else's decision making process, point of view on cloud-mining or any other bullshit like that .. what do YOU need to happen right now, and what is the best way to increase the chances of it happening.

Trust me, there is no other way to go at the moment .. IGNORE the people who are laughing at you, and don't give a shit if you live or die right now .. think good thoughts, and you never know what may come of it.  

P.S.
If there are no signs of any change 'and' withdrawals get rolling again, sell and split asap. .. either something big and good happens, immediately, or there will be only one more week of operations at current levels, then rewards cut in half again .. and 3 days later it will be curtains.

Do all the stuff the people I'm telling you to ignore told you to do months ago before you were completely and totally fucked, and everything will be AOK.
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