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1521  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: November 23, 2023, 06:14:58 PM
XMR swaps aren't "Bitcoin privacy technology", and WabiSabi solves the flaws of other coinjoin implementations.
- I'd argue that atomic swaps is a kind of both Bitcoin and Monero.
- Wasabi coinjoins suffer from address reuse and other weaknesses which have been presented quite a few times already.

Some body may have to quote me on this one or ask the same question because again, Kruw either ignores my messages or put me on his Ignore List.
One less troll to account for. That's a blessing.
1522  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: November 23, 2023, 03:40:00 PM
But he also says Wasabi does not support Censorship.
I mean another outright lie there; even Wasabi developers throw up their hands. They themselves admit they sacrifice censorship resistance:

We are fully aware of the gravity of our actions and had been even before the decision was made. By exploiting the only architectural flaw of Wasabi Wallet’s non-anonymously run coordinator: lack of censorship resistance; we broke one of the largest taboos of Bitcoin: blacklisting, to achieve something greater: survival of the best Bitcoin privacy technology.

But what's censorship resistance worth if we take into account the "survival of the best Bitcoin privacy technology"? Nothing! Roll Eyes

If only there was a way to retain both... Oh wait there is: XMR swaps and other coinjoin implementations that aren't flawed!
1523  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 23, 2023, 02:27:00 PM
Αυτός όμως ο "άγνωστος" μπορεί και να μην είναι τόσο "άγνωστος" σε άλλους κύκλους.
Δεν γνωρίζω τι συμβαίνει σε περίπτωση που αυτός ο κάποιος θέλει να ξεπλύνει χρήμα (π.χ.) κι αν σε παίρνει η μπάλα και σένα νομικά. Φαντάζομαι αν συμβεί κάτι τέτοιο μπορείς να δικαιολογηθείς πως αγόρασες κάτι από αυτόν, και πως δεν έχεις άλλη σχέση.

Ένας λόγος να μη διαλέγεις τυχαίους buyers αλλά με ιστορικό στο Bisq είναι αυτός. Μέχρι στιγμής δεν έχει συμβεί κάτι σε εμένα, και γνωρίζω κι άλλους που αγοράζουν / πουλούν εκεί πιο συχνά απ' ότι εγώ, και ούτε αυτοί είχαν θέμα. Πιο πιθανό να σε πιάσει εφοριακός και να κρίνει πως πλένεις χρήμα αγοράζοντας / πουλώντας bitcoin (αφού δεν υπάρχει φορολογικό πλαίσιο) παρά το άλλο (που φαντάζομαι θα ασχοληθούν μαζί σου μόνο αν σου στείλει πολλά χρήματα).

Μη ξεχνάμε και τους κινδύνους του KYC στα CEX έτσι...
1524  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 23, 2023, 12:01:03 PM
Ακριβώς την ίδια διαδικασία που ακολουθούν όλα τα χρηματοπιστωτικά ιδρύματα. Κάτι στο οποίο όλοι οι άνθρωποι είναι πιο εξοικειωμένοι.
Σύμφωνοι, είναι μια τυποποιημένη διαδικασία που έχουμε συνηθίσει όλοι. Απλά αν κάποιος δεν έχει καμία ιδέα για το πως λειτουργούν τέτοια ιδρύματα, νομίζω είναι πιο εύκολο το DEX.

Και τα χρήματα αυτά, τι αιτιολογία έχουν? Εννοώ πως εφόσον εμπλέκονται fiat, κάποιος τα "βλέπει".
Η τράπεζα βλέπει κάποιος άγνωστος να σου στέλνει χρήματα (αν είναι από το εξωτερικό, βολεύει revolut). Δεν γνωρίζει ούτε η τράπεζα ούτε η revolut ότι είναι ανταλλαγή bitcoin. Από εκεί και πέρα είναι ευθύνη του καθενός να τα δικαιολογήσει στο κράτος (στην Ελλάδα δεν έχουμε φορολογικό πλαίσιο για bitcoin, οπότε προσοχή). Μεγάλα ποσά είναι λογικό να κάνουν "μπαμ", είτε έρχονται από Binance είτε από έναν άγνωστο.
1525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mixing is NOT money laundering, per se on: November 22, 2023, 11:01:58 PM
Would you imagine if developers added ZKPs or other privacy technique to Bitcoin? That would create a lot of controversy, possibly resulting in mass delistings from mainstream crypto exchanges. With institutional investors getting in the game (Blackrock, Fidelity), it's best to keep Bitcoin as is.
Enforcing every coin to go private would surely shake the investors as regulators would be completely hostile to it. That's what I like with bitcoin. Privacy is not mandatory on a protocol level.

just look at how they treat invested fiat(capgains) different to employment income or inheritance..
How the state treats you financially based on your economic activities is nowhere related to fungibility. Taxation on inheritance being different than in your monthly income is nowhere related to cash being fungible.
1526  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 22, 2023, 09:21:22 PM
Δεν αντιλέγω, απλώς θεωρώ πως κάποιος που δεν έχει τις ιδιαίτερες γνώσεις, του είναι πιο εύκολο να κάνει μια κατάθεση στο Binance
Συμφωνώ πως πιστεύει ότι θα είναι πιο εύκολο. Αλλά στην πραγματικότητα, δεν είναι. Για να ανταλλάξεις στην Binance, πρέπει να φτιάξεις account, να επιβεβαιώσεις e-mail, κινητό, τραπεζικό λογαριασμό. Να συμπληρώσεις ένα σωρό captcha. Να δώσεις στοιχεία KYC που θα σου ζητήσει όπως σέλφι, δίπλωμα οδήγησης, ταυτότητα, τόπο διαμονής. Να περιμένεις 2-3 μέρες να στα επιβεβαιώσει ένας υπάλληλος της εταιρίας. Και μετά μπορείς να κάνεις deposit και να πουλήσεις.

Στο Bisq, κατεβάζεις ένα εκτελέσιμο, το ανοίγεις, διαλέγεις σε τι θέλεις να πληρωθείς (π.χ., Revolut EUR), deposit, τέλος.
1527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Combination of the young age correlated with Bitcoin for the future on: November 22, 2023, 07:49:30 PM
Does he have a job? 'Cause if he's thinking of spending the bitcoin for the bills, then no. Do something constructive, useful.

If he's thinking of buying himself a car, or a house with the bitcoin (i.e., he might not want to live with his parents), then it's up to him to weight the tradeoffs. If he's held 4 BTC up until this point, then chances are he knows what he owns. I believe he knows he doesn't need to sell everything, at least I wouldn't do that. Maybe a couple of thousands, and the rest saved for the future.
1528  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what means 2e-8 BTC? on: November 22, 2023, 07:37:15 PM
Remember it like this: e-8 = exponential -8. It's 10^-8, so 2e-8 = 2 * 10^-8.
1529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Turn non-RBF transaction to RBF enabled? on: November 22, 2023, 07:31:21 PM
I got the idea during research yesterday about the solution for non-rbf transaction and I came across  to this post below and they mentioned about -mempoolfullrbf(added on Bitcoin core v24.0) which accept transaction replacement without the original transaction replaceability signal.
Running a full node at the moment means you're probably already connected with someone who's running mempoolfullrbf=1, so broadcasting a replacement of a no-rbf transaction should probably pass.

Note that if you don't run your own full node, then probably blockstream's block explorer will accept Full RBF: https://blockstream.info/tx/push (connect there via Tor). That being said, I don't know if the Electrum server ignores policy rules, or if your Electrum client will allow you to do that.
1530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mixing is NOT money laundering, per se on: November 22, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
Bitcoin is not fungible, so dirty coins can easily be identified on the Blockchain.
No. Bitcoin is fungible. There are no dirty coins, there are only people claiming they provide a service which can de-anonymize the blockchain to an extent, and which is evidently inaccurate and based on utter guesswork.

The transparency of BTC is not a bug but a feature. It's a great way keep an eye of the flow of transactions on the network.
The transparency of Bitcoin is not to make transactions identifiable, but to retain the property of open-source, free software.

The public now believes mixing is a very bad thing (thanks to government propaganda and misinformation).
Misinformation appears to be pretty effective based on your post.
1531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: They accumulate bitcoin but how about you? on: November 22, 2023, 03:09:20 PM
- There is no evidence of Satoshi ever owning more than a couple of bitcoin, let alone 1.1 million. (there isn't even evidence of Satoshi being alive)
- I cannot find evidence of Binance being valuated at 643k BTC. I do remember their cold storage address, but that contained less than 300k BTC.

The only investors on your list is I believe Micro Strategy and the Chinese Government.  China probably does seize Cryptocurrency too.  But I think over 70 percent of the Cryptocurrency the United States Government holds are seized assets while I did hear about China purchasing Bitcoin before out of their own initiative.
I'm struggling to imagine how these government holdings are worked out, because most of the time when they seize coins they sell them afterwards.
1532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Turn non-RBF transaction to RBF enabled? on: November 22, 2023, 02:53:58 PM
Opt-in RBF is enabled by default and there is proposal to enable Full RBF by default too.
That's probably the safest approach. Full RBF is the standard state of the network. According to Peter, 17% of 24.x listening nodes run full rbf. Nobody should treat opting-out RBF signal as non-replaceable. It is currently trivial even for a newbie to simply broadcast the replacement transaction to nodes that support that policy.

Unless the pool operators tell us what they are accepting then we could only hope that TXs like that would be mined.
Probably what grants them the most profit. So, I suppose, they support full rbf.
1533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and the urban myth of the money of the future on: November 21, 2023, 07:43:05 PM
What serves as a value reference?
A unit that is censorship-resistant, denationalized, permissionless, always-available, private and insusceptible to any state intervention. Has value as long as people say so.

What future? Bitcoin is here and now, and pretty much my past of 7 years. What value definition is based solely on being able to eat/drink/wear it? Bitcoin does everything that money can, with much more freedom of use.
Don't bother to engage in discussion with him, he's a stubborn troll who has ignored everything told about Bitcoin's monetary value, around 5 times already. He is completely incapable of comprehending the invaluable properties of Bitcoin as money; his comprehension goes as far as fiat money.
1534  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 21, 2023, 06:27:27 PM
Mμμ βλεπω αναφέρεις το BISQ. Το χρησιμοποιώ κι εγώ και μου αρέσει πολύ. Ωραία θα κάνω μια δοκιμή κι εγώ και θα σας πω. Εναλλακτικά τη RELAI την έχει δει κανείς; Μέχρι πρότινος επέτρεπε non-kyc. Πλέον δεν είμαι σίγουρος, αλλά αν το επιτρέπει, βολεύει πολύ.
Δε το γνωρίζω. Από ανταλλακτήρια προτείνω μόνο Bisq (δεν υπάρχει πιο αποκεντρωμένο) και Robosats (υποστηρίζει lightning).

Δεν έχω χρησιμοποιήσει ποτέ P2P, σαν ιδέα δεν ακούγεται κακή, έχει τα υπέρ και τα κατά του, απλώς θεωρώ ότι είναι μεγαλύτερη, λιγότερο άμεση η απαιτούμενη διαδικασία σε σχέση με ενός ανταλλακτηρίου.
Είναι το ακριβώς ανάποδο. Αφού είναι peer-to-peer, είναι αμεσότατο. Για την ακρίβεια, δεν πάει πιο άμεσο από αυτό. Κυριολεκτικά οι υπολογιστές σας επικοινωνούν μέσω ίντερνετ χωρίς ενδιάμεσο με end-to-end encryption και εντελώς ανώνυμα.
1535  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 21, 2023, 03:56:53 PM
Eπειδή δεν πουλάω συχνά, θα μπορούσε να ισχύει αυτό, αλλά δεν το έχω δοκιμάσει. Θα το δω ωστόσο.
Μα ούτε εγώ πουλάω συχνά. Συνήθως μία φορά το μήνα, και πολύ. Κοιτάζω από μια-δυο βδομάδες πριν πόσα χρειάζομαι και βγάζω sell order με premium price. Αυτό που παρατηρώ να συμβαίνει είναι πως κάποια στιγμή έχουν πάρει τα no-premium offers και μένει το δικό μου για λίγη ώρα. Ε, κάποιος που βιάζεται και τα χρειάζεται εκείνη τη στιγμή θα το διαλέξει.

Απλώς και πάλι, αν είχα συχνές πωλήσεις, μεγάλων ποσών, είναι εύκολο λες;
Αν πουλάς συχνά όχι, και ιδιαίτερα αν θες να πουλήσεις γρήγορα. Αυτή η μέθοδος ομολογώ πως μπορεί να διαρκέσει αρκετό καιρό... Μια βδομάδα Bisq running in the background ας πούμε!  Tongue
1536  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Μήπως αποτύχαμε ως ελληνική κοινότητα; on: November 21, 2023, 09:20:20 AM
Δεν εμπιστεύομαι κανένα exchange. Αυτό εννοώ. Οπότε αγοράζω P2P μόνο. Αυτό όμως είναι θεωρητικά πρόβλημα διότι δεν βρίσκεις άμεσα liquidity πάντα. Για αυτό το λέω.
Αυτό εγώ το βρίσκω πιο πολύ σαν πλεονέκτημα, γιατί μπορείς να το εκμεταλλευτείς και να πουλήσεις ακριβότερα (το οποίο απ' όσο γνωρίζω δε γίνεται σε CEX). Π.χ., είμαι ο μόνος seller που ανταλλάσει BTC με revolut EUR, πάρε ένα 5% premium price. Από την πείρα μου θα το πάρει κάποιος εντός μιας βδομάδας.

Γράψου σε 1 σοβαρό ανταλλακτήριο* (Kraken), στείλε το ποσό που θες να trade-άρεις (συγνώμη για το αδόκιμο) και κάνε το παιχνίδι σου. Ούτε πολλά πρέπει να είναι, ούτε να το κάνεις συνέχεια αν δεν το επιθυμείς.
Κατά τη γνώμη μου, εγγραφή σε CEX δεν αξίζει πλέον που έχουμε σοβαρά DEX όπως Bisq. Όπως έχω ξαναπεί, ο μόνος λόγος για να εγγραφείς σε CEX στις μέρες μας είναι αν θες να πάρεις shitcoin.
1537  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Which Linux distribution would you use now? on: November 20, 2023, 08:01:05 PM
I would argue it's good to learn to use the command line (and vi), but it comes with a steep learning curve. After that, it's much more powerful and faster than using a GUI.
Depends on what precisely you use it for. Simply editing text which could be also done using nano might be worth it, but when writing code, you have tools such as VSCode which provide another level of comfort and efficiency. Even better if you install the vim plugin and gain the advantages of vim, including VSCode's.

To me, the answer on that matter is simple. Learn a little bit of everything when it comes to the terminal, but don't put the terminal above everything. Knowing vim has particularly only helped me when editing files via an ssh-ed terminal. I can write code much faster and more correctly on VSCode.
1538  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk 14 years ago on: November 20, 2023, 05:07:29 PM
When you pay people to post, obviously they will post with more frequency, but that doesn't mean their forum is useful.
Disagree. Just check out the Dev & Tech board now and before signature campaigns. Currently, being paid to help there is like being a mod in stackexchange, but with less responsibilities and more flexibility.

I think for one reason, the culture of donations was lost, maybe it is because of the price, maybe people are no longer grateful, if that culture were not ended, there would be more interesting posts and people willing to help with the problems of others.
There would be less meaningless, unoriginal posts, granted. But, I strongly disagree that there would be more helpful posts. Quite the contrary. The current ability to resolve Bitcoin-related issues within a few hours demonstrates that a predominantly paid-driven board fosters a constructive and helpful environment.
1539  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is your solution to pay less Fee ? on: November 20, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
But you'll still need to pay for on-chain fees when you open a channel.
Yes, my suggestion applies for a daily basis, not for particularly one on-chain transaction. If you make on average 5-10 Bitcoin transactions a month, then it's better to open a channel and not worry about network congestion.

I know my out there feel uncomfortable to go with alts but matching up the tx fees is adding fuel to a fire 🔥 and end result is much higher fees.
One big problem is that we don't all have altcoin wallets setup. I don't use any other cryptocurrencies, so asking me to opt-out there requires me to spend time searching for their software development. My choice would be either Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash due to their adoption.
1540  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Share Your Suggestions About Security For Bitcoin Wallet Android Users on: November 20, 2023, 04:43:58 PM
Pretty much what dkbit98 said. Mobile phone is the exact opposite to an airgapped device. It is designed to connect to as many networks as possible. If you're cautious on security, then you shouldn't be using a Bitcoin wallet on a smartphone with default stock Android pre-installed.

Instead, carry a small amount there. I'm using my phone for small, lightning-only transactions. Just as when when going out, I don't take my entire wallet with all my cash, same applies for my bitcoin.
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