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1541  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 06, 2019, 07:45:41 AM


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1542  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 06, 2019, 07:14:18 AM

was ich an Trump so bemerkenswert finde ist, dass er so proletenmässig rumböbeln darf und niemand kann ihn stoppen oder zur ordnung rufen. er verletzt permanent die guten sitten der kommunikation indem er fast ausschliesslich persönlich wird und nicht auf der sachebene bleibt wenn es um auseinandersetzungen mit seinen kritikern geht.

vom kleinen proleten aus dem kiez erwartet man nichts anderes aber jemand welcher führer der freien welt sein will disqualifiziert sich durch diese art der kommunikation von vornherein für das amt. was mich jedoch sehr wundert ist, dass so ein mensch, welchen man anscheinend einen wesentlichen teil seines gehirns amputiert hat, in den USA mehrheiten findet. ist denen auch ein teil ihres gehirns amputiert worden, nämlich der teil welcher für moral zuständig ist?

und prolet CSW ist wie Trump nur im cryptospace. die sachebene der kommunikation kann er nicht und wenn überhaupt dann ist sie öfters fehlerbehaftet.
1543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 07:52:51 PM
Kiss🎻
10% or more if needed, but I don’t sell easy

Yeah I’m confused what to do, what % etc. I will have to have a good think when we start to move up big time.

And that's exactly how we all will end up regretting not having sold shit again lol

"it's so easy" they said. "buy low, sell high" they said.

Grin Grin

@Gyrsur

Lol.

Bought a lot low, it’s just when the fuck do I sell.

Imagine selling a big % at $100,000 & then 3 weeks later we’re at $200,000.

Shit man!
1544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
Kiss🎻
10% or more if needed, but I don’t sell easy

Yeah I’m confused what to do, what % etc. I will have to have a good think when we start to move up big time.

And that's exactly how we all will end up regretting not having sold shit again lol

"it's so easy" they said. "buy low, sell high" they said.

Grin Grin
1545  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 05, 2019, 06:20:03 PM
Was ist denn die Idee?
Nochmal bei Null anfangen?
Das ist zumindest die Grundidee hinter jedem einzelnen Shitcoin auf diesem Planeten Wink

Ja schon klar...   Roll Eyes
Ich bezog mich aber eher auf die Wünsche einiger Bitcoiner hier.

alles 4-stellige ist mir eigentlich zu teuer obwohl ich knapp 4-stellig noch gekauft habe. ich denke mal alles unterhalb des vorletzten ATH ($1,242) würde massiv aufgekauft werden, mMn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bitcoin#Prices_and_value_history
1546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 01:25:55 PM
I guess it was canceled because of economic reasons. if you calculate with a price of 1k per Bitcoin the price should stay above 1k if you have to pay the costs of the event afterwards. in fall 2013 it was a short spike above 1k and then the price collapsed again. I expect the same if the price will go above 100k because a lot of hodlers will then cash out.

Ok Ty for that info. My proposal will avoid this pitfall bc as I said, its flexible enough for someone to spend between $500 and 10k or more with no commitments. So if price drops 30 percent in the few weeks prior, then people can just spend 30 percent less or whatever they want.

So easy not to collect money far in advance and then not have to worry about what happens to the funds and what the price is to possibly give out refunds.

ok, but then you should keep the party exclusive. no more than 50 to 60 people in my opinion.

EDIT: just a Hat Gang party with no Gang Bang. Grin (sorry for the flat joke!)
1547  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 01:11:29 PM
I guess it was canceled because of economic reasons. if you calculate with a price of 1k per Bitcoin the price should stay above 1k if you have to pay the costs of the event afterwards. in fall 2013 it was a short spike above 1k and then the price collapsed again. I expect the same if the price will go above 100k because a lot of hodlers will then cash out.

EDIT: it's always about risk. if someone is willing (and "crazy" enough) to organise such an event big style he should earn a decent amount of money for the risks he is taking.
1548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 12:51:58 PM
nice ideas guys but start small please. first of all you need money for a party.

first question is: who is willing to pay with bitcoin for a party and how much. in 2013 it was 1 BTC and the money was locked. if you pay 0.1 BTC today it will be enough in 3 years for a 100k party. but again the money is locked. who is still on the list?

EDIT: maybe someone should start a DAO "100kparty". Grin

In the proposal I laid out for Vegas no one but me would have to put up anything and even my out of pocket expense would be not a big deal for me at all.

The less people that show the more glory for the ones that do. Worst case scenario its me and 2 friends. I promise you we will have a lot of fun and fill everyone in on the good times.

ok sorry, I did not read it. but how then will you scale it? you should expect 100 to 500 people if the price will stay above 100k.

EDIT: more than 220 paid 1 BTC and the money was locked until the event was canceled.

+ + +  MORE THAN 220 RESERVATIONS  + + +
1549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 12:19:40 PM
nice ideas guys but start small please. first of all you need money for a party.

first question is: who is willing to pay with bitcoin for a party and how much. in 2013 it was 1 BTC and the money was locked. if you pay 0.1 BTC today it will be enough in 3 years for a 100k party. but again the money is locked. who is still on the list?

EDIT: maybe someone should start a DAO "100kparty". Grin
1550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 11:46:07 AM
some party ideas:



EDIT: I prefer to stay anonymous so I will wear a helmet like Daft Punk instead of my hat. is that OK for you guys?
1551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
do fuck off

always drunk or always busy with several things in parallel?  Grin

get the fuck away with that extremely unlikely shit. just kicking the office cat.

now I know why Grumpy Cat passed away.  Roll Eyes
1552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
Nice post Lambie....

But is there Maybe someone that could make a list with just the members that are interested for such party...

And Then which would seem fit to be allowed @the party ? Smiley

Smaller groups are good but I think the group would not be like 300 members

More like around 50 or something....

Ty Goose, and happy belated. Yes if someone did start a list and give maybe 2 weeks for all WO hat members to tell them where they would be interested in partying and how many non WO hat member guests they want to bring to the party then it would help potential hosts know what to do.

Also it might be wise to stop giving out hats or making new hats not count for the parties bc bad people could get on here and earn a hat just to come to the party, so only hat members as of today or something.

I think the real thing that will swell the party size is that hat members are going to want to bring gfs, bfs, best friends etc to share their most epic night of partying. I honestly dont know how many hat members want to come but I would guess at least 60-80 with an average of 2 guests each so that would mean at least 210 people. Even just making a US party and non US party would make the numbers workable with 100 people aprox per group.

A list is a great idea bc then we can see the real demand for said parties.

You are the best list keeper here so I nominate you! Cheesy

German Bitcoin veteran (and of course "Hat Gang" member) "600watt" is your man potentially --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285771.0

EDIT: 600watt organized in 2013 with two others the btc1k party but the price plumbed unfortunately. as I remember correctly he is working in some catering business or something like that as he told in the German section. it could be he will not organize such an adventure again but at least he is able to support you with usefull hints.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368601.0

EDIT2: unfortunately btc100k.com is not free anymore. variations might work.
1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:08:56 AM
do fuck off

always drunk or always busy with several things in parallel?  Grin
1554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 09:10:34 AM


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Where is the chart!? Di you forget ze history chart?
Ze lazy Zerman!


Grin worldly wisdom: you should read the terms and conditions in any case.
1555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 08:54:39 AM


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1556  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 05, 2019, 08:33:39 AM
...
In allererster Näherung würde man also davon ausgehen, dass sich der Marktpreis in etwa da einpendeln dürfte, wo er 1,5 Jahre vorher war.
...

Na dann sollten die 1 Million BTC jetzt sofort auf den Markt, damit könnte ich wohl leben.  Cheesy

noch haben sie (Faketoshi + PokerPedo) die TrueCrypt Files nicht knacken können aber wenn sie soweit sein sollten werden sie unvermittelt Bitcoin dumpen und SV pumpen.


* habe ich das richtig gerechnet? 12,5 * 6 * 24 * 365 = 657.000 BTC/a

"656250" sagt https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply#Projected_Bitcoins_Short_Term

rechnerisch würde ich auch so rechnen wie Du.
1557  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 05, 2019, 07:56:52 AM
Ich hoffe ihr habt alle alles verkauft als ich von 10K gefaselt habe Grin Weiterhin dieses Jahr 0% Trefferquote bei den Prognosen ...

Nunja, 9000 war ja schon fast da, also könnte man von einem "Fast-Antesten" der 10000 sprechen Grin Jetzt gehts natürlich runter auf allerhöchstens 5000, und die 10000 werden wir "nie" wieder sehen.

BTW: Die Satoshi-Theorie ist mal wieder ziemlich weit hergeholt, wobei das "Manifest" aufhorchen lässt, aber das war ja bei anderen angeblichen Satoshis ähnlich. Würde sie stimmen, wäre der Kurs aber mittelfristig zum totalen Kollaps verurteilt ... denn Wright will die Coins ja wohl verkaufen, wenn es es schafft, die Festplatte mit den Keys zu hacken. Aber wahrscheinlich passiert wieder genau ... nix.

(Trotzdem wäre es interessant, mal gedanklich durchzuspielen, wie ein solcher Kollaps dank eines Satoshi-Dumps ablaufen könnte. Müsste es einen Hardfork geben, um die Diff anzupassen, ähnlich wie bei Bitcoin Cash? Wenn das verhindert werden könnte, dann würde Bitcoin sicher gestärkt aus dem Dump hervorgehen. Ansonsten eher nicht ... Vielleicht kann man das mal mathematisch durchspielen, wie tief so ein Dip bei Orderbuchtiefe X gehen würde und ob bzw. bei welchem Kurs die meisten Miner aussteigen könnten usw.)

ich würde das begrüssen. dann hätten wir ein für alle mal ruhe und die sache mit der Satoshi Bitcoin Million wäre geschichte. (eine unsicherheit weniger!) so wie es aussieht sucht das smart money verzweifelt einen sicheren einstieg in Bitcoin mit grossem volumen. ein einbruch auf 3-stellig könnte ich mir vorstellen. 2-stellig glaube ich persönlich nicht.
1558  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Blender, anonymous bitcoin mixer on: June 05, 2019, 07:17:55 AM
in the light of what's happening in the mixer scene it seems to me the time of centralized mixer services had come to an end.

In the meantime better ways exists to protect your privacy. Please learn and apply for yourself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51179260#msg51179260

You seem to have missed this.

SHUWasabi

indeed, a very good starting point for Bitcoin privacy is:

https://wasabiwallet.io

Wasabi does not compare.

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Ideal fungibility requires every Bitcoin transaction to be indistinguishable from each other, but it is an unrealistic goal. ZeroLink's objective is to break all links between separate sets of coins. ZeroLink presents a wallet privacy framework coupled with Chaumian CoinJoin, which was first introduced in 2013 by Gregory Maxwell. A mixing round runs within seconds, its anonymity set can go beyond a single CoinJoin transaction's if needed, and its DoS resilience presumes a transaction fee environment above $1 Bitcoin.

boy, it was just a link to start with something to learn and apply for yourself.  Roll Eyes

if you're here to learn and not for the entertainment only you will find a lot of usefull discussions to apply better privacy in your (daily) use of Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146241



the concept of chipmixer has the flaw you have to trust an private key which is known by the mixer. "not your your keys - not your bitcoins" or in this case "private keys that are known to an other party are worthless because you have to trust the other party"

and the flaw will not become less a flaw if the mixer is paying one of the highest in a signature campaign. (by the way I doubt you will stop promoting it if something happened with chipmixer. we had the case in the past)
It surely didn't stop you from promoting Bitblender so what are you trying to say here?

what I'm trying to say is that you have to trust a private key of the centralised mixer just for the time of mixing your coins (exception: some Newbies used mixers as an Bitcoin online wallet) and in the case of chipmixer the private key is created by chipmixer and you have to move your coins from this chipmixer private key to your own private key afterwards.

two flaws here:

1. laziness and costs: to move the coins again you have to apply an extra step and it will cost you fees. if Newbies tend to use a darknet(!) mixer as an online wallet I'm very certain a large portion of users of chipmixer don't move the mixed coins from the chipmixer private key to an own private key afterwards.

2. privacy: the chipmixer private key is known to chipmixer (and other parties?). if you want to have real privacy you have to move the coins away from the chipmixer private key with an additional mixer with extra costs. how mad is this? I admit there is no way to avoid the danger of logs or other instruments of sharing the secrets of the mixing process also if you use other mixers like bitblender. you have to trust the mixer in any way. therefore again, time of mixers had come to an end.
1559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
is that you, Mic?



My very last one (Total merit exhausted, one thing is sure I do not hoard them), I get the Joke for ones Tongue

And my GF always like your meme and approaches of me and the forum and her Roll Eyes

Or wait why am I thinking its funny btw .... Roll Eyes


Btw you needed 1 merit to give 1 merit back, you already had half a Smerit....
To give a Smerit you need to send 2 merit

Am I scammed?? Roll Eyes lol

Mic, you are not scammed by me! I had one merit already and wanted to say +1 to your fast and cool reaction of my pic.

BTW, thank you for your kind words and the praise of your GF! I very appreciate it. Thanks, man and good HOODL sleep to you and your GF.  Smiley
1560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 11:02:49 PM
Grin

man, I need one more merit to give you one sMerit back.
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