It's hard to differentiate which people over there (all the over there's) are dumb enough to still buy and which people are just acting that way in hopes that someone will remove the bag that they are holding, but I always enjoyed that some people bought the Garza story of "someone not me will "fulfill the whitepaper,"" and acted like Garza was now clean and this new group would add all those "features" that would fix everything.

How the fuck is someone going to make a hyperflex blockchain? This is like an inception of scamsand it appears that some people still think that there's a way out.

But it's less massively asymmetric massive inflation!!!

And one of the guys getting all those coins is gone!!!

And all the other guys split up into teams and other organizations with new names!!!

Only a fool wouldn't see how much better it is now.

I ignored this for a while because I thought it was some crazy staking club thing that might actually make sense on some level, but now that I've read a little bit, how can anyone think this is a good idea?

I thought everyone would give him random coins, he would put them all together because you can get more via staking if you have more coins in one spot, and everyone would share the profits. There would be enough issues with that business, and I'm not sure how much money people would make participating, but it seemed pretty straight forward and ok to do.

It turns out that the plan is give him BTC, he turns them into unknown coins, stakes them in unknown wallets, turns them into BTC and sends them back? How many ways for people to get screwed over in one business are we putting together? besides needing the operator to be legit, now you need him to be good at trading, and you need every coin he invests into to be legit also. What happens if he invests in a coin that turns out to be a scam? What happens if he mistimes a trade? What is stopping him from saying he did that if a coin crashes so he can just keep all the btc?

How many times has "give someone your coins so they can trade for you" worked out? Because despite the name, that's what this is. Claiming you are staking coins (and actually doing it) gives you a little breathing room if you fuck up on trading, but this seems insane to me.

The tough thing about this point in a situation like this is that it's extremely difficult to tell the difference between an idiot who believes in the site and a scumbag who knows that acting that way to get someone to take the bag out of his hand is the only way for him to get out.

I've learned that it's not worth trying to figure out which category somebody belongs in, because it's not worth dealing with either of them.

I misread my chart, you didn't have the +119 on baghdatis yet, so you are down for the day.

What odds are you getting on those picks. I can find them, but you should post them if you want to convince people you are honest.

thank you for being honest, but that spreadsheet is useless without odds and without the picks posted somewhere else publicly shortly after the game starts because you can change that.

As for what you have there. If you bet $100 on each game you would have won $40 on Isner, $119 on Baghdatis, and lost $100 on Lu, leaving you only up $59.

If you used the industry standard method of keeping track of bets (bet enough to win $100 on favorites, bet $100 on underdogs) you would have bet 250 to win 100 on Isner, 100 to win 119 on Baghdatis, and lost 175 trying to win 100 on Lu. Leaving you up $44 after risking $544. You may not like that method because it punishes you more for losing on heavy favorites, but real handicappers weight their record that way to give an accurate representation.

I have specified what I want you to do many times.

Right after the game that you are betting on starts, post the pick here, with the odds you bet. This way we can keep track of your record AND how much money you win AND you won't be ripping off the people that paid for your picks.

That is how you prove you are good at sports betting, you post your picks, and prove that you can make money making picks.

That may be true, but it's very simple to show that you are good at sports betting. Your refusal to do so is a giant red flag.

Don't let that number fool you the way Garza tricked that poor wall street journal schlub who has been remarkably silent.

There is no strategy to beat a 100% luck based game. You found a strategy that will make you lose, and you would have known that with a little bit of reasearch

So it made 580 btc with a bankroll of 4700 coins, So in order for the buyer to realize profits like that they need to have that much money to put in the bankroll after they pay you? correct?

What are you talking about? the reason he can't do stuff is because people finally woke up and stopped giving him money.

Why on earth would he give you $20 for a paycoin when he can go on cryptsy and get it for 3 cents? And then what is he going to do with that paycoin?

That is the question that has never had an answer and why anyone thinking Josh would give them $20 needs their head examined.

It's not a puzzle, it's common sense. Doubling down on a good investment leaves you with more money, doubling down on a bad investment leaves you with less money.

If a miner will generate more coins than you pay to get it (or hashpower from a cloud mining site) getting more of them or more hashpower will leave you with more money than you started with. If it doesn't "reinvesting" will just lead to more bad investments and less money.

why would you do that do someone that hasn't shown they are good at sports betting?

And hasn't explained how they will define the ROI for the "guarantee?"

If you believe they spent 100 million in 6 hours I have a bridge to sell you, send me a pm.

You're the best.

If you lost money on this, you got scammed. You can talk all this nonsense about faith, economy, nations, whatever. Josh told you he would buy your paycoins for $20, he didn't, now they are barely worth 3 cents. I want you to figure it out so you don't get scammed again, if you refuse, that's fine, but don't be surprised when you "lose faith" in the next scammer you run into, because if you still can't figure out that you were scammed in this super obvious scam, you are going to have scammers lining up to take more of your money.

Correct, because THEIR plan did not make sense

I didn't hear about them until the hashlet phase, but they made zero sense. Neither did anything about mining hashpoints and everything in the saga from there to paycoins to the honors program to coinstand to garza disappearing and the other geniuses taking over.

I have never seen one possible thing from anyone in this situation that would make sense for both of us, so I kept my money.

I hate to go back to the back to school line, but after you finish the 3rd grade math class to find out how the people paying $1 per coin would not generate enough cash to pay $20 for every coin, find a history/government class to look up the definition of nation.

It was a scam long before he left because he did not do any of the shit he said he was going to to.

What does that have to do with the hyperflex blockchain and $100 million CAF being lies?