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1541  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Difference Between Graphics Card Brands e.g. Gigabyte/Sapphire/XFX e.t.c. on: March 13, 2013, 09:19:16 PM
Brand doesn't matter, it's the cooler that matters, try to get one with a dual fan it will have better cooling and will survive overclocking and running 24x7 better.

Failing that the Sapphire ones have a large single 92mm fan and 5 heat pipes running off to two large coolers. They are the best single fan models.

1542  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining on: March 13, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
In the UK we used to have free solar schemes,

You rented your roof to someone who installs solar panels on it, and they let you use as much as you want, while selling any left over to the grid.

Sadly the new government austerity measures have reduced the profitability of solar investment schemes like this... they were working too well!

Now they've turned it into a bank loan scheme to save the fractional reserve debt note system.  Angry (just like student loans)

1543  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: restoring 5970 to factory default settings (BAMT) on: March 13, 2013, 08:02:16 PM
I think the values are stored in a Linux boot script and not on the card.

My evidence for this is that I've underclocked so much that Linux failed to start after rebooting.
I recovered the situation by re-burning the OS back onto the memory stick and this reset the values.
1544  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 BAMT UNDERVOLT - pls Help on: March 13, 2013, 07:56:53 PM
Silly question but did you try rebooting after saving your settings?
Some things on Linux don't get applied until the boot scripts run.
Can be a bit of a hassle if you underclock it enough to stop it rebooting though.  Roll Eyes
1545  Economy / Goods / OMG! Funny item I found on UK ebay accepting Bitcoins. on: March 13, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
 Shocked  Cheesy  Grin thank god it says "new and unused"  Grin  Cheesy  Shocked

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/stag-hen-night-japanese-doll-i-do-except-bitcoins-/171006139143?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Celebrations_Occasions_ET&hash=item27d0c29b07
1546  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mixing Video Cards in Ubuntu 12.4 on: March 13, 2013, 03:12:46 PM
"Would be any problem in using many power supplies for a multi gpu rig instead of one of 1200w??"

If using multiple power supplies you have to trick them into thinking they are connected to the motherboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Qb5ZmekNM

1547  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What are ALL the variables necessary to calculate Accurate ROI in the mining biz on: March 13, 2013, 01:33:43 PM
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ to figure it all out and latest bitcoin price and difficulty.

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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison for Mh/s per $ and W

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http://www.ebay.com for prices (Ati 5830's are lowest $/ROI in my opinion)

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add 100w if it's going in a PC for all the other PC stuff

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your electricity bill should tell you the price you pay for KW/h
1548  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mixing Video Cards in Ubuntu 12.4 on: March 13, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
No problem with GUI Miner and Ati cards.

They only need to be the same for crossfire (doubling gaming performance)

I've mixed 5830s, 6770s, 6850s and 7850s while mining, even play games on GPU0 while mining on the others in the background.

I was using LinuxCoin designed for bitcoin mining that ran off a memory stick, but it also works fine in Windows too.
1549  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: MSI 7850 1Gb RAM - anyone have these? on: March 13, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
I have 2x 7850 they are the twin fan design with large coolers running 12.11beta catalyst.

Together they mine 630Mh/s with 1100 GPU clock, temps are like 57-65c, fan is 50% auto.

They are not cross-fired so I can game on one while mining 300Mh/s on the other. No dummy monitor plug was required. Rig runs at <299w.

I don't mess with the voltages and I'm using GUI Miner and MSI Afterburner and mining on 50BTC (after bad experience with Eligius).

2 BTC pm 2.03 MH/s/W = 48.30 USD pm after power costs at todays prices and difficulty.

Update:

I just tried lowering the voltages and it was a no go. Card seems to have it's own power saving feature that has control of them.
1550  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: best entry level setup on: March 13, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
Ati 5830's are the quickest $/Hash ROI in my experience. You can pick them up as cheap as 5770's but they run cooler,quieter,faster.
1551  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to get bitcoins? on: March 13, 2013, 12:12:23 PM
At current bitcoin prices $40-50 you can still cover your electricity bill with graphics cards but this may not last much longer.

Use http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ to predict your costs and profit.

Ati 5830 cards are probably the cheapest they mine as fast as my 7850s (but use a bit more electricity)
1552  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Thinking about buying an ASIC on: March 13, 2013, 11:58:41 AM
You might as well wait for Butterfly to produce a working item now.

The said they would be testing their new chip this morning.

Butterfly is quickly running out of excuses so it's make or break this week I think.

I hope it works, as I don't want to spend 650w on electricity costs (Avalon), as bitcoins are not exactly easy to sell to cover the bills.
1553  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do thefts from wallets.dat happen often? on: March 13, 2013, 05:07:40 AM
"A Bitcoin user has lost 25,000 Bitcoins ... the stolen wallet was encrypted on the HDD and backed up regularly".

http://www.geekosystem.com/first-major-bitcoin-theft/

 Grin
1554  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wouldn't BFL stand to make more money if they just used their ASICs themselves? on: March 13, 2013, 05:02:39 AM
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It seems like controlling these machines under a single entity would yield more profits.

I heard they do have a large Bitcoin farm, but I suspect they don't have the money to develop ASIC alone.

Also when you become the market, there is nobody left to sell to, and it ends badly.
Example the Hunt Bros. who cornered the silver market.
1555  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mt.Gox not pay real money on: March 13, 2013, 04:51:24 AM
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For a service that does millions a day in transactions why the hell does MtGox have such shitty banking?

I suspect it's some nerd kid in his bedroom who used to trade pokemon cards and now bitcoin trading is growing out of control.

MTGOX = "Magic The Gathering Online eXchange"  Tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5EegPifcB8
1556  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin value in two months represent normal Bitcoin operation??? on: March 13, 2013, 04:12:53 AM
Halving the reward doubles the cost of production.

Imagine I mined an ounce of gold, then gave it to king of gold, and he gave me back half, doubling my cost to reward.

That's the weird and wacky world of bitcoin mining for ya.  Tongue

The rate of new coin supply is decreasing.
1557  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Welcome << I joined to ask about the .8 fork but got stuck in the newb ghetto on: March 13, 2013, 04:00:17 AM
everyone changed to 0.7, otherwise they'd have no mining, but try the pools thread for more info and go to last post with your pool name.

I'm on 50BTC and got my yesterdays production back paid today. I don't think I lost much if anything.
1558  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin value in two months represent normal Bitcoin operation??? on: March 13, 2013, 03:56:44 AM
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When same quantity of product cost more and more, thats inflation!

Inflation is the increase in money supply, more money chasing the same assets, prices rise.

Deflation is the decrease in money supply, less money chasing the same assets, prices fall.

1559  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do thefts from wallets.dat happen often? on: March 13, 2013, 03:51:39 AM
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But if you encrypt your wallet, even if it's stolen it can't be drained of bitcoin.

Lies.  Angry

They can record you key presses so they know your password before they steal it.

I would keep your wallet on a machine or linux partition not used for anything else.

I suspect people get hacked by their mining software or pirate software.

Even the official client has an IRC (alt network) so keep IRC ports firmly blocked in your firewall!

Where money is concerned trust nobody!
1560  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin value in two months represent normal Bitcoin operation??? on: March 13, 2013, 03:37:32 AM
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If people are losing Bitcoins left and right ... then their value will go down.

There are two bitcoins chasing an asset worth 1 bitcoin.

You have one coin, I have one coin.

You lose your bitcoin, the bitcoin supply is now half, the item becomes worth 0.5 bitcoin.

The value of bitcoin did not go down from your loss, it went up, I can now buy two items.

Bitcoin is a deflationary currency.
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