There's recently been a few various energy projects entering the cryptocurrency market. This one seems to be best poised to follow through with their plans.
Yeah you said it right, I learnt there is energy generation ongoing already at the 2 established powerplants but revenue generation will come later, who else can confirm this news?? Revenue generation or breaking even? If they are generating electricity and it is sold to the grid then they should be having some cash flow; I understand breaking even would come later but I think they are already making money. we'll all see that in a few months, when the first dividends are paid out. Then they will disclose the previous revenue, whether from mining or electricity sales The first numbers will be very exciting |
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Just found a quick statement by Brett on Twitter from Consensus: https://twitter.com/VanigPlatform/status/996825834630664193 A lot of great things are happing. Great minds, great people, great relationships are being formed. We are excited to show you whats next with Vanig. Stay tuned! Now I am really getting excited. Awesome, Can't wait to see what comes from it. I think with the patent pending and the if the MVP goes well, they'll be well set to put themselves in a very good position. Yea, the expectation of the community is pretty high, everyone is trying to test or perhaps get a review of what the MVP is all about, the patent process tend to take sometime because it involves a lot of paperwork and i believe that they will soon round up the process and get things up and running Brett look very excited. I hope Vanig project will crack some partnership deals at this blockchain meet. Vanig project is good and others project would love to join Vanig. Exciting times ahead for sure, Vanig will do great at the event I'm sure, the statistics speak for themselves. Cutting fee's down to around 8% in comparison to amazons 18-20% !!!! I did not know that Amazon's fees are that high. Of course, the 8% of Vanig are already a good offer. Another incentive to sell at Vanig :-) This will be an interesting fight in the e-commerce business in the future I like this sort of competition, it's healthy for growth, it gives we the end users a lot choices and it's great for the industry as a whole, I'm looking forward to more retail project on the blockchain with good plans such as Vanig Competition is only good for the consumer not for business. Vanig need to monopolize the blockchain/e-commerce sector. Competition will only make it harder for them. I don't agree with you, competition is actually good for business, it keeps businesses on the edge, imagine where there's no competition, businesses will do as they please because no other brand is available to give them a run for their money, innovations won't come up, as they will be pretty comfortable with where they are but with competition, the story is different you are absolutely right. Imagine if there had been no competition in the first few years of the internet, then we would all still surf with Internet Explorer 5 :-) I hope Vanig is the new Netscape / firefox and takes online shopping to a new level |
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It’s a large supply but understandably so they are dealing with the potential for a massive market we’re not talking some minor niche market we’re talking about the ability to trade power internationally
The project initially is goaled on dealing with big companies and big money. And as we can see - it happens for real. They have good development plan and they realize it cautiously and inevitably. Yeah. Still consumers and small company can still benefit from this setup. I think Bittwatt is not just for big companies but i think the big companies would yield better results for bittwatt given they will be demanding the larger portion; my guess is that individuals would mostly use it to trade. Not necessarily, you'll be able to use it to pay your electric bills as well. Thinking about it, there are so many different ways you can use Bittwatt and benefit from it whether you're a consumer or a business partner. I did actually forget about the global scale potential with potential of paying your electric bill with Bittwatt!! Great to hear I forgot that too. i was just concentrating on the trading platform the whole time, because i would really like to trade energy once :-) But the possibility to pay my electricity bills with Tokens is of course also something fine |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb  Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins  Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. Right now the total crypto market cap is at $375 bln. Just compare this market cap to the one from big companies like Apple. There is soo much room for growth. And when we see a market cap of a >trillion, just imagine how all coins will profit from this. It will take ages before we see the market at that level. Especially people should stop scamming and make use of the advantages of crypto. By that time, legit project like Bittwatt will be in the moon for sure. I do not think it will take that long. The past 12 months have been a lot of talk about blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies. Of course not always positive. But more and more people now know about the Blockchain and its possibilities and daily there are more. And projects like Bittwatt will also help more and more people see a real application behind the blockchain. |
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Superbloom vetting projects before they come out as an ICO saves a lot of energy, time and manpower, if you know what it takes to get real project out there you will appreciate Superbloom real fast
That's some real task superbloom are planning on taking up and i tell you that this won't be easy. I must say that their criteria for choosing an ico must be 100% accurate because if anything goes wrong and that ico turns out to be a fraud. Superbloom will pay for sure. So you are saying there is some sort of insurance covering holders of SEED token?? because if it's so then I think superbloom reduces both risk associated with buying ICO and also ensures safety to the optimum as well I wouldn't say insurance because i do not see where superbloom will compensate users if one of their predicted and vetted to successfully and not scam ico actually turns out to be a scam. I think what Gee777 is trying to say is if Superbloom intends to vet upcoming ICO's before they get lunched they have to carry out the vetting process very well to avoid acknowledging a project which later turns out to be a scam. I have seen projects every one thought was legit and turned out to be scam, something of this sort will damage Superbloom credibility. I hope their vetting process contains all necessary questions. if you check the whitepaper they go through what they'll be doing to ensure this doesn't happen, including meeting with the entire team of a new project. Interesting, this gives clear signals that verification of ICO is done the best way you can imagine Is not easy doing research on projects and seeking which to invest, it takes a lot and for a project to come in and help fix that, is a stress reliever, so we don't need to do the digging, superbloom will and it can be easy for investors to invest in projects that has been certified by superbloom Yes, that's a good thing. And since Superbloom is not interested in selling any shitcoins, only the good projects will be listed. It will be easier times for us |
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Have you already dealt with mining? what do you think, where do we have the best chances with? There are three options:
1) The mining app for the computer
2) Mining with the RaspberryPi
3) pre-configured appliance for a virtualization container
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oh, i missed this post yesterday. very nice to see vanig on CCN. will read this one later that's a good sign, because CCN reports only about good projects CCN does definitely check the projects they are publishing an article about. But, just in general, we have to keep in mind that this is a sponsored article. So the project paid to get it published on CCN. Not saying this is bad. I am sure a lot of new people learned about Vanig due to this article. Now I had to look again. I have actually overlooked that this is a paid contribution. Nonetheless, the post is on CCN and many people have read it. I think that has brought some new investors |
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This is a really good article on an important crypto homepage. But unfortunately he appeared a bit too early. Maybe they can update it and mention the information about Puerto Rico. That would be the Knight Rider Turbo Boost for 4New |
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oh, i missed this post yesterday. very nice to see vanig on CCN. will read this one later that's a good sign, because CCN reports only about good projects |
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It’s a large supply but understandably so they are dealing with the potential for a massive market we’re not talking some minor niche market we’re talking about the ability to trade power internationally
The project initially is goaled on dealing with big companies and big money. And as we can see - it happens for real. They have good development plan and they realize it cautiously and inevitably. Bittwatt started in EU but they will expand its operations beyond EU. I see less risk in this project if someone wants to Investe. Yes, it starts in Eastern Europe and then continues in the EU. But I find it interesting that they chose Singapore as the only place outside the EU any idea why? |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us It all depends how big the overall crypto market gets, don't forget while the 400b sound big for the crypto market in reality its still small when you scale it against things like the NYSE and major countries fiat values, when we break 1t i think people will understand better the scales possible for projects. But for this to happen more people will have to come into crypto and also if the big shots will be able to invest more then you will smile while the market flies. We can assume that there will be a lot more money in the crypto market in 1-2 years. More and more large investors are entering the market and if prices rise, even small investors will come back. Solid projects like Bittwatt are guaranteed to be on many grocery lists, so it's good to be there right from the start |
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In what way does Superbloom distinguish itself from other projects such as kickico? what is the advantage to investing in superbloom?
I think the main advantage with this one is that they do the review before listing any ICO; the ICO to list is authenticated. Also there rewarding is different. With this you are rewarded based on hodling and there is not listing fee. yes, it is great that superbloom also takes over the review of the ICOs, so we can inform us directly on their side. And I guess we get the tokens from the ICOs to the cheap ICO price. There comes a lot together with time. |
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I must confess that I already had that thought. Since the hurricane there is a lot of garbage to burn. I did not want to mention it, since I do not think it's right to benefit from the suffering of others. But actually they are also helped, because the waste is rapidly becoming less and less. I hope the population can benefit as well |
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Are there any product categories Vanig will be specialized on? Or will it be the universal market ecosystem?
I don't think there is given it would depend on the suppliers they are partnering with. Specializing in a given category could be a good think at this stage but not sure if it the right decision. I think that would be determined when the partners start selling; on that data you could decide. I think is best if they concentrate more on the larger market scenario than specializing on one section or niche, users and visitors of the sites should be giving preferences by showcasing different types of niches and products to select from, this will create a more robust environment for the project and customers will be happy at the end It won't be wise if they do concentrate on one product or one side of the market. This is an e-commerce site so they are expected to have as more products and from different markets as possible. I agree if there was only on product from one market it would be better to buy it at that market unless Vanig gives a huge amount of discount on it. I still think their biggest advantage is the ability to track a product to its origins and get more details about an item aside from the labeling. There are types of products or consumables that if users knew more about would buy with ease. especially when it comes to organic and electronics. You're absolutely right. I have not even thought of organic products. Being able to trace these back to the origin is certainly a big advantage of Vanig. At the moment, we do not really know where the products that we buy come from |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us |
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Just found a quick statement by Brett on Twitter from Consensus: https://twitter.com/VanigPlatform/status/996825834630664193 A lot of great things are happing. Great minds, great people, great relationships are being formed. We are excited to show you whats next with Vanig. Stay tuned! Now I am really getting excited. Awesome, Can't wait to see what comes from it. I think with the patent pending and the if the MVP goes well, they'll be well set to put themselves in a very good position. Yea, the expectation of the community is pretty high, everyone is trying to test or perhaps get a review of what the MVP is all about, the patent process tend to take sometime because it involves a lot of paperwork and i believe that they will soon round up the process and get things up and running Brett look very excited. I hope Vanig project will crack some partnership deals at this blockchain meet. Vanig project is good and others project would love to join Vanig. Exciting times ahead for sure, Vanig will do great at the event I'm sure, the statistics speak for themselves. Cutting fee's down to around 8% in comparison to amazons 18-20% !!!! I did not know that Amazon's fees are that high. Of course, the 8% of Vanig are already a good offer. Another incentive to sell at Vanig :-) This will be an interesting fight in the e-commerce business in the future If you compare the feeses than i think VANIG has already won but they do need to get a lot of popularity like amazon. That's a long way to go. But they conquer first the Asian market and then the whole world :-) I'm sure in 10 years Vanig will be one of the 3 big ones The Asian market presently is obviously rule the world anyone who conquers Asia automatically controls the world market. In my opinion though there you are right, asia is becoming the world market leader in more and more areas. And the US, with their stupid president, is doing more and more for losing their supremacy. In this sense, Vanig starts in exactly the right market |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
From my own perception and view of things they are doing the right thing already, putting in place before hand what they intend on achieving, buying at 2$ now seems to me as a smart decision, I mean it could go up or down but the long term growth of it is both certain and my focus I am agreeing with more than 100%. 4NEW is really long term story. You cannot construct or buy power plant and utilize the tokens almost immediately. It takes time. Honestly project team is moving faster than expected or even their own roadmaps. I understand the risk also. I am also worried that bounty hunters will dump the tokens and it will affect the price. But I don't expect it to go down below ICO price. What I will do is, I will invest half amount now and will invest half after listing. Although I also think that there will not be many dumpers, I am still prepared for the case. If the tokens are really sold very cheap, then I buy as much as possible :-) And in a few years, when the dumpers are happy about 0.2 ETH, I'm happy about the fortune that I've made with 4New |
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Just found a quick statement by Brett on Twitter from Consensus: https://twitter.com/VanigPlatform/status/996825834630664193 A lot of great things are happing. Great minds, great people, great relationships are being formed. We are excited to show you whats next with Vanig. Stay tuned! Now I am really getting excited. Awesome, Can't wait to see what comes from it. I think with the patent pending and the if the MVP goes well, they'll be well set to put themselves in a very good position. Yea, the expectation of the community is pretty high, everyone is trying to test or perhaps get a review of what the MVP is all about, the patent process tend to take sometime because it involves a lot of paperwork and i believe that they will soon round up the process and get things up and running Brett look very excited. I hope Vanig project will crack some partnership deals at this blockchain meet. Vanig project is good and others project would love to join Vanig. Exciting times ahead for sure, Vanig will do great at the event I'm sure, the statistics speak for themselves. Cutting fee's down to around 8% in comparison to amazons 18-20% !!!! I did not know that Amazon's fees are that high. Of course, the 8% of Vanig are already a good offer. Another incentive to sell at Vanig :-) This will be an interesting fight in the e-commerce business in the future If you compare the feeses than i think VANIG has already won but they do need to get a lot of popularity like amazon. That's a long way to go. But they conquer first the Asian market and then the whole world :-) I'm sure in 10 years Vanig will be one of the 3 big ones |
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Nice write up; I specifically liked the rewarding system they have in place. The more you hodl the better the rewards. A smart way to increase value more people would want to hodl lol. That's the fact, the benefits of the project is enormous, when you look at it critically, you will understand that is like a one way ticket to unending means of several cryptocurrencies and for the fact that they will also integrate the trading platform is also a bonus for holders, imagine having several tokens and trading at same time I think holding the 'premium' 100k+ tokens is where you'd see the real benefits from it, getting 20% of the value of your tokens of every ICO that lists on there is massive. 100k SEED would be really great, but I'm afraid that's beyond my financial resources. I have not found any information yet on how much the 100K tokens would cost, do you have an idea? I found on their website that "SEED tokens are set at $0.10 during our 2018 pre-sale." so i would say 100k Tokens would be around $10.000 USD. Thank you for the information. I must have been blind, could not find this number :-) But I expected about this amount, 10k $ are really a lot of money. As another has mentioned, a bounty campaign would be great, I would certainly do some for tokens 10k USD is huge money, I was thinking I can get good services at low price. But looks like it's not like that. I hope they reduced the requirements so that people with low budget like me can join. 100k is for the TOP level of their investors. You can still get ICO tokens from holding 10k tokens on their platform.  Infact, you get ICO rewards if you hold 1 token lol I just wanted to get the most benefits, so 100k tokens were the plan :-) but I definitely will be a pro-member I wonder if you get the same number of shares with 1000 tokens as with 90,000 tokens. That should be different |
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