I've been thinking here... What do you think people? Who will win more from using Bitwatt platform? Big plants and manufactureres with giant consumption of electric energy or ordinary people?
Of course the big ones will win most again. But this is the first time that ordinary people can make a profit too So far, it has been the case, for example, that private power generators with small solar panels often deliver the surplus electricity to the local electricity supplier free of charge or very cheaply. With Bittwatt you can now trade yourself with this power and make profits with it |
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Owlllrighttee... Vanig Platform Telegram channel just shared some fresh news: Team Vanig is at Consensus 2018 Blockchain Conference in NY  Looks like its a very nice conference. Already new team additions has been seen. Any positive outcome from the conference? Looking forward for it. I am sure there will be some news after the conference. But the event lasts until 16.5.2018, there is still plenty of time for many partnerships. Here's a link to the conference if anyone wants to know what's going on there https://www.coindesk.com/events/consensus-2018/ |
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they have updated the roadmap and what am I reading there? In July 2018, a new affiliate program will start, which will blow all other competitors :-)
That sounds very good, I will certainly participate in that
Gifcoin has managed to remain relevant all through the ICO even up till now... I really want to understand the affliate system being planned... Is it for Gifcoin as a product? Or buff88? A better understanding will be appreciated it's going to be for buff88 I assume. All betting websites have affiliate services where if you bring in customers you get a % of what they bet as 'Free' bets, from a previous post it looks like it's going to be a good deal at 10%. Yeah really true, here in my region they do a different kind of promotion which Gifcoin can employ, they try to send you a certain amount of your total bet amount by the end of the month, that way even if you end up loosing you could be rest assured that you're getting back some token at the end of the month, people like fauwerwilli would really benefit from this sort of arrangement lol  Haha, that's right. I'm losing almost every bet lately, so this benefit would be just right for me. Thank you for spreading some salt into my wound :-) |
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What was the early ico price ? I once read that the price was rised after a certain time. What was it in the beginning of the ICO ?
That's correct. Price was increased as step by step. Now once sale will start then token price will be 2USD(1Kwatt ≈ 2.00 USD). I am not sure exactly remembered but beginning price was 0.75$. I think you are right about the stated starting ico price. Looking at the present price and how far it's gone, it's encouraging and we can believe that there will be better price growth in the future. Early investors already getting 100% profit as well as their bonus tokens are real good incentive. Hope they will not dump the price after KWATT get listed. Normally, many tokens are sold cheaply to make a quick profit, according to the ICO. In the case of 4New, that could be different now, because as a tokenholder we can make a multiple profit. Any early sale would be a very stupid action |
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I am glad the ICO got extended, with the release of Buf88 platform there is more leverage
I agree i am pretty sure they will reach hardcap easily now once they complete stage 5, stage 6 will be very easy to complete for them. I can not quite understand this line of thought, why should stage 6 easily sell out, only if Stage 5 is sold out once? For the past few days, sales seem slow, so I can not fully share your optimism |
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I think 22 plants is a huge goal theirs no stopping them from pulling it off but I think should be excited for getting the project off the ground with the initial plants as that’s already a huge win for the project I think
Yeah, that was their conservative goal as well. There was a similar company that went from 1 - 60 plants in that timescale. Pretty interesting, I'll be ecstatic if they can have 22 power plants, the KWATT token price would rocket if the amount of electricity that would be produced The price is likely to raise if that is the plan and they execute according to it. I think the first think that needs to be achieved now is to start with the mining and utilize the token for them to start making proper profits and the token price to rocket as well. Don't forget if they have the plants even without miners (especially in the downturned crypto market) they are still earning profit from the plants by selling to the UK power grid for a nominal fee. So if i understand things even without crypto the plants earn cash, just like any other plant. It's look difficult to add 22 plants in 5 years. But if 4new managed to do that then token price will be in there digits They have already 2 in The UK, once those start making huge profit it could become very easy to add those 22 plants in 5 years. I don't kno how much does a plant cost but 22 in just 5 years sound like a big investment to me. I think only the start is difficult. With the profit from the first two power plants, they can build the next two with it. And with the profits from 4 power plants, they build 4 new ones. And so on. Of course, this is a very simplified calculation, but it could work that way |
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Thanks for the update. The two seem to fit exactly into the team Slowly the team gets really big, there is something really good going on And soon there will be the MVP, can not wait |
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Total sales at the moment is 716.18 Ethereum hardcap is 2000 Ethereum with about one and half month left for ICO to come to an end. I think hardcap will be reached given that Pre-sale was reached between April and May if the team put in more effort hardcap will be attainable.
I'm very positive on this one, with a month and half, I think hardcap will be reached, with the way the pre-sale was reached. I don't think reaching the hardcap will be problem. Guys what is the softcap of this ICO ? As I understood it's already reached and now we are waiting for hardcap to reach? I found on their website that the softcap is $1.000.000 USD and the hardcap is $50.000.000 USD They still have a long way to reach the hardcap. The hardcap of 50 Million is not fixed, according to the website it is a stretch goal with different stages. "* - Max Hard Cap is a stretch goal with staged goals of 5, 10, 20 and 35 million "But what about the softcap? They have reached their pre-sale goal, but the softcap is still missing when you take the 716ETH. That would be just over half a million dollars at the moment |
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Bittwatt have raised $25,3 Million for soft cap. Next stop is reaching hard cap ($30,4 Million). What do you guys think, will they be able to achieve the hardcap?
Sure, they have been present at Future Banking, a Wall-Street event focused on digitalisation and innovations in the banking and payments industry. Major companies such as: VISA , Revolut, Monzo werepresent at the event. this is just the start of Bitwatt Since there were some big names, I hope Bittwatt could close some good partnerships. But until we find out, it will probably take a while, contracts are not completed so quickly The event certainly helped the project to become better known, and that's a good start |
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Vanig is focusing on accepting only VANIG tokens and fiat as part of first product roll out. BTC and other top crypto's will be planned for later roll outs.
I understand where they are coming from and it's quite good... Make the platform accustomed to Vanig or fiat and with time integrate other payment features, so customers gets to know dealing in Vanig is basically with Vanig token... Nice initiate it also makes a constant demand for the vanig tokens if they are the only way of buying from the site, that's always good. For the upcoming MVP next week they will only accept VANIG tokens. I think they will still be on testnet and the idea of the MVP is to reflect the idea they have and show the follow of the system. We should be looking at a beta sometime after. Either case I hope conversion to VANIG would be made easy to simplify the purchase and access to the token. What do you mean by the fact that we need for the MVP Vanig tokens? I hope that the MVP gets by completely without means of payment, after all it is only a trial version. Besides, we do not have tokens yet :-) Or do you mean that they are virtual tokens, so we get a certain number of demo tokens for testing sorry, if I got it wrong, it's very early and I'm not sleeping yet :-) |
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Does this project still go ahead if it doesn't reach hardcap?
Of course it goes on, they have already started in Romania and other countries will follow shortly. Why should they just stop there? they have already taken so much, the hardcap is not missing much. |
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I read on the Bitfence site that you can pay with ETH, BTC, LTC, DASH in order to get coins, but if you pay with LTC will you get the coins also immediately or is that only if you pay with ETH ?
Good question I don’t see why it would be different between the various coins I’d imagine they would just rely on transaction confirmations before issuing the new tokens I think since Bitfence is using the ethereum network then it's only normal to get a faster confirmation and Token issuing since it's still within same infrastructure, however I can't really establish the condition for ltc I know some other projects that also pay nearly instantly when you pay with ETH, and they also use Ethereum network. It would be awesome if it also worked with the other payment coins. I am also not sure but I have seen few projects delaying tokens distribution if payment is done using fiat currency. But we should ask this question in telegram channel to get confirmation. It does not matter if some of us receive them a little bit later because at the end you will receive your Tokens anyway so just have patience. The longer you hold them the more potential profit you will have in my opinion, atleast wait until Bitfence has grown further and with the coin naturally growing in value due to demand aswell Yes, is best to have something substantial come out from an invested project, you don't always have to leave with peanuts and you never can tell what will happen to the price of the intended token, so is best to always hodl tokens for a considerably amount of time, projects like these got potentials, which will give the community a strong drive to hold on to it I think the rather unconvential way of 'mining' will help long term as well. There isn't going to be ASICS mass farming each day increasing the supply. Im interested to see how their software and hardware betas go as well. Yes, the mines of hackers is something completely different than we already know it. That will be very interesting. But don't you think that there will be cheaters who engage hackers specifically to attack their honey pot? Can they prevent that? |
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In the first post of this thread is something written of a limited pre-sale from 18.5.2018.
is that any other than the pre sale that starts in 21 days? Or is the first post just an incorrect date?
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Just putting this out there; only 19 hours left for the 10% bonus. Looks like this phase (phase 3) was a good one for bittwatt. There should be only one phase left (phase 4) let us see what happens in the next hours.
I will urge people to seize this great opportunity and participate, before the 10% bonus comes to an end, hopefully the phase 4 the project will hit the hardcap. It’s always exciting to watch the last few hours of stages like this as theirs normally a bunch of last minute purchases that bump the numbers up for last minute bonus seekers I’d imagine this is the same I think hardcap will get darn near close if not hit The last 5.5 hours with 10% bonus are already running. I've been thinking about investing a few times over the past few days, and have now decided to use the bonus and still invest. I have great hope in Bittwatt, I think that will be a big project in the future Nice, welcome to the club  I invested a little after I saw the announcement about the partnership between the energy company. Im going to hold off buying more for now, want to see what else they release. There are rumors that they want to announce a very large partnership in the near future. but I do not know anything. I'm really curious maybe we will be annoyed that we did not invest more :-) |
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they have updated the roadmap and what am I reading there? In July 2018, a new affiliate program will start, which will blow all other competitors :-)
That sounds very good, I will certainly participate in that
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That is a reasonable expansion plan given they were able to pull 2 plants so far. If they 2 plants break even expansion would not be a problem. I think it would all down to the available funds to actually start those otherwise it going to take longer until the business is sustainable.
The concept is solid, its just for them to maintain the cash flow and reinvestment plan to expand additional plants, i'd like to see them modernize the plants as they go along for the plants they buy instead of build as i'd imagine they aren't exactly the most modern platforms, can't wait to see some videos with the plants flying the 4new logo big and bold. Are they really buying all the plants? I don't know how much you have to pay for a working waste-to-energy plant but I can imagine it to be quite a lot. Maybe partnerships with other plant-operating companies could be a cheaper solution? To my knowdledve their purchasing them, that’s why it’s 2 to start that’s what they budgeted for and the. Eventually they will reinvest from the first plants to expand the number of plants that they have to grow the business as part of the reinvestments Okay, I see. Owning the plants definitely has its benefits, too. I am just wondering how they will manage to have enough money to buy up to 22 more plants in the future. Will they reinvest their part of the profit from the first 2 (3) plants completely into new plants? That's what I asked myself when I heard about it. 22 power plants are a lot, maybe they rent in which one? I'll have to see if there's any specific information anywhere. Or I ask in the telegram channel It's because the President was comparing it to another waste-to-energy company who went from 1 to 60+ plants in five years. So 4NEW's conservative aim is for 22 plants in that time scale. Conservative goal is an interesting term. So it could well be more than these 22 power plants? But if another company can build 60 power plants in 5 years, then 4New can do 22 too. I'm getting really enthusiastic |
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5.0/5 on track ico
7.1/10 on foundico
4.6/5 on Icobench.com
I think getting such good ratings from 3 rating bodies shows some positives for the project and I must say it's an attractive point as well
I also noticed the ratings, and you can already see certain differences. But for me only ICOBench is actually interesting, I think they do it most conscientiously. I read other ICO sites with skepticism |
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Just putting this out there; only 19 hours left for the 10% bonus. Looks like this phase (phase 3) was a good one for bittwatt. There should be only one phase left (phase 4) let us see what happens in the next hours.
I will urge people to seize this great opportunity and participate, before the 10% bonus comes to an end, hopefully the phase 4 the project will hit the hardcap. It’s always exciting to watch the last few hours of stages like this as theirs normally a bunch of last minute purchases that bump the numbers up for last minute bonus seekers I’d imagine this is the same I think hardcap will get darn near close if not hit The last 5.5 hours with 10% bonus are already running. I've been thinking about investing a few times over the past few days, and have now decided to use the bonus and still invest. I have great hope in Bittwatt, I think that will be a big project in the future |
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Always good to see a partnership announcement, doesn't only look like one company but 3 business' teaming together. Great to see and hopefully can bring Vanig to a success Announcement of partnership between two organisations always attract to people's. As well partnership always helpful for growth of business. But I can see there 3 companies names are showing in article. So is this partnership with all those 3 companies? Exactly! This surprised me too. MGX, iFashion, iCommerce - I think Vanig just decided to seize the market in Southeast Asia and manages this marching in giant steps Wow an announcement for partnership with 3 companies. What I have found out, these companies are are specialists in their fields. Thats good for the Vanig project to have such specialists on their side. This is going to attract more partnership and a lot of people will have confidence in what vanig is doing. These kind of development is what vanig need right now because it is going to ensure smooth business Wow, that is indeed a significant move for Vanig, awesome. Still gutted it's not going to be in the US/EU for a few years yet, but when it arrives it should be a polished and amazing platform. AliExpress is the bright example of how Asian market can boost the e-commerce and how one China online store can serve the whole world. Alibaba I think is even a better or another example of an good Asian website because it serves many wholesalers around the world and not just China or Asia alone. There is no doubt that the Asian market has a lot of influence, Vanig has a good tendency to follow Alibaba and others steps. The benefit Vanig will have other those ones is the transparency and trace-ability of the product, from what i've heard Alibaba is notorious for copies and fake products. I heard something similar from Alibaba. But how should they monitor it? Perhaps Vanig is the first company to come up with a solution. Or it is simply the first company that is also interested in preventing copies |
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