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I think answering abuse is also important. Just one question out of curiosity. How much bitcoins are you getting in your wallet? Doesn't need to be accurate, just an estimate. How does this reflect overall donations?
B.t.w. How many people are administrating the servers/foundation?
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So there might actually be many Asians using bitcoin, but we will not be knowing. Or there might be no Asians using it, just because they haven't heard about it yet.
More probable that they never heard of it. I think also that, that is the case.  |
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Well it's kinda impossible at this point. I already hand them the mybitcoin account.
Ah. I was under the impression that we still would have access to the bitcoins (because, other people mentioned to donate them to some other organisation). |
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Asians have a "different" internet. I work with some Chinese people and when they surf they mainly visit china-centric websites and hardly visit the sites that North-Americans or Europeans usually visit. I think this counts for a lot of people in Asian countries.
So there might actually be many Asians using bitcoin, but we will not be knowing. Or there might be no Asians using it, just because they haven't heard about it yet.
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2) Contact one of their sister organisations in other countries, asking if they are interested.
<edit>For point 2, mail the EFF with an ultimatum for the EFF to collect the coins.</edit>
Ultimatum? I don't understand ... "If we don't hear from you before <some_date> we assume that you are not interested in the donation and we will find an other organisation that might be more interested in this donation." Or something like that. |
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Chart/statistics are here: https://www.bitcoinexchange.com/statistics/But I understand what you mean. You just want to trade between different currencies. Personally I think people should actually buy stuff with it, not speculate about the transaction values. |
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The bitcoinexchange.com from Finland does not really fulfill the standards.
Ehh... why? I've got bitcoins from them before. I was very satisfied by their service. Btw, The Netherlands here. |
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Also, it would be great to
• Establish a European BTC exchange or add EUR into an existing platform
https://www.bitcoinexchange.com/ is already in Europe (Finland) |
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I'm not a supporter of donating something and then later (when they are not interested directly) saying, well then give it back. Especially because many people donated to their cause, not some other organisation. How do you think (let's stretch it a bit far) if people donated for the WWF and saw their money going to the PETA, because the WWF was not interested but the PETA is.
Personally, I see two options that I can feel happy with:
1) Keep the account with the bitcoins for a few years and send an automated mail to the EFF yearly. If bitcoin really catches the market they might become more interested.
2) Contact one of their sister organisations in other countries, asking if they are interested.
<edit>For point 2, mail the EFF with an ultimatum for the EFF to collect the coins.</edit>
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bitcoin-0.3.13 ebuild is now available. Made some small changes in the process (bitcoin is C++, so renamed the CFLAGS to CXXFLAGS).
Have fun.
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Thanks for the answer.
@nelisky, I've done a couple of sending wires last few years and never paid anything. On some consumer programs here on television a few years ago people had the same experience as what you are saying and the hosts of the show said then that there are 2 ways of sending. One being free (maybe capped to a specific amount) and one that costs money. Many banks had this way of paying with costs as a default, but that has changed since then, because the banks got a lot of complaints about that.
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Why the high expenses? Wire transfers within Europe are normally free.
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Maybe, they could be made sticky?
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Hello ******, I've blanked out the names. Karsten Gerloff? ^_^ Yeah, easy to find. |
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I'm just back from the Software Freedom Day party here in The Hague and I was able to talk with Bits of Freedom (Dutch privacy organisation) and the president of the Free Software Foundation Europe about Bitcoin. Both were really interested. The person of BoF knew bitcoin already, but hadn't used it for over a year or so and said that it was not interesting at that time, but he would look into it again and discuss with other people within the organisation about it. About the FSFE, the president asked me to send a mail with the details, so I just send him this mail: Hello ******, I hope you had a good trip back to Germany. We just had a talk together about Bitcoin. So, like I said Bitcoin is a p2p, open source cryptocurrency and it would be nice if FSFE would allow options to use it as a donation option. The website of bitcoin is http://www.bitcoin.org/ (surprise!) Although the system allows for generation of coins, chances to get them through this method are very slim (cryptographic target has becoming more difficult recently because more people started using it). I've used myself the exchange at https://www.bitcoinexchange.com/ (Finnish exchange) to get bitcoins. But it would also work in reverse (so change bitcoins in euros). To test how it works, you can get some free bicoin(cent)s at https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ I don't know if you know the people of http://www.torservers.net/, but they are also using bitcoin to accept donations, so you could also ask them about their experience. I hope this gives you enough information to get started on it and hopefully you will discuss it with the other people at the fsfe to put a bitcoin address on your site. Best regards, ***** [Biomike] I've blanked out the names. So lets see where this goes. |
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Spam is not a technological problem. And you will be unable to solve it with a technical fix.
This idea is the same as email stamps.
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why people should buy bitcoins to spend them? They just can spend dollars or webmoneys without transfering it into bitcoins. Other thing - is to make it for free (generate), but it's very hard to do now. That's why most users leaving this project.
1) Dollars, we can't spend them here in Europe . Joking aside, money transfer is fairly easy within Europe, outside it will be more difficult or very costly. Buying stuff from the US often requires a credit card, which is not so easy to get in Europe as in the USA. 2) Webmoneys, these companies are not banks, so they don't have to follow the rules that banks have to follow. A company could just "freeze" your account or let your account disappear and get away with it. If someone hacks your account, money lost. Nothing you could do against it. Bitcoin on the other hand is easy to get (bought some via an exchange in Norway via a bank transfer (safe)) and nobody can make the bitcoins I have disappear (or have some other control on them). |
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From the website they say that the organisation will form a foundation.
I don't know by German law, but here in the Netherlands foundations have often the requirement to publish the finances to its members and/or chamber of commerce (where they can be requested from again).
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