Some of you guys like to watch this guy Tyler and he just said: "... to learn this thing (hyperwave)... not for bitcoin. That ship has sailed. The Hyperwave on bitcoin came and went. We are in the terminal end of that hyperwave... " (@ 16:00) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FsPgpLmP%2Fdds.png&t=663&c=0LK_sLr5Z1DJow) He just admitted that he don't know shit if there will be another wave like the one happened in 2017. I remember quite well he was saying it can go as high as $100k but he wants to see it at $10million. Does anyone have a clue if he is making sense or not? Is this guy just another clown or we should listen to him? He also admitted he is trying to monetize his stuff but I don't see anything to be monetized. Seems to me he is just another clown who's trying to lure followers in by calling random high numbers on bitcoin's future price. Be careful with this old geezer. Probably just another snake oil seller. Yes. He makes decent sense, and with any possible sorcerer, you take their proclamations with a decent grain of salt because any proclamations, whether "expert" or not is based on a set of possibilities and probabilities rather than 100% or even anything near 80%, especially when they become too specific in terms of a future time and amount.
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Dammit, I did not want to merit your post because you're a Legendary member, but it was spot-on and I had to. Hahahahaha... I do that too. Sometimes reluctant to merit Legendary accounts and also members who I have merited a lot, but sometimes, it becomes irresistible... I have an extensive ignore list to guide my ignoring habits, though that doesn't mean I don't peek at posts here and there. The members I have on my list are ones who've proven to be habitual shitposters, and I have no reason to suspect that they're going to improve anytime soon. I generally don't put members on ignore just because I disagree with them, even if that's a consistent thing--I don't have QS, TECSHARE, and a number of others on my list. They generally don't write big rambling walls of shitposting text like cryptohunter and those others write, so I don't mind seeing their posts.
Probably, we are never going to have exactly a prefect system that does not change at all because even as people we change through the years and therefore it would be a good practice to tweak our systems from time to time. I used to have an Excel list for a kind of keeping track of certain kinds of behaviors that I found worthy of notation, and I nearly completely abandoned that particular list and streamed it down to a much smaller kind of list of consideration(s), and probably with the passage of time, I am going to need to tweak my current practice, too. Theymos never put down any guidelines for merit sources and their ignore lists. If he ever did, I would gladly abide by them.
It's likely a good thing for theymos NOT to lock in too many criteria about merit (or merit abuse) into a written document, even though, like the Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart is famous for writing that he could recognize porn when he saw it, theymos could proclaim the same kind of abilities to recognize merit abuse when he saw it. hahahahahaha
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I also have cryptohunter on ignore. If you go around trolling and derailing every thread in Meta and Reputation, making it near impossible to have a rational conversation about trust or merit, then this is what happens. It's no one's fault but his own. My status as a merit source does not require or force me to read or merit any user's posts, nor ban me from using the ignore button. I did click show/hide on the post you linked to, just to see what all the fuss was about. I absolutely disagree that that post deserves merit. I think you are confusing "a lot of effort" with "longer than average". There is nothing in that post that took a lot of effort. It is, as with all this other posts that I've read (granted I've not read the last several hundred or so thanks to the ignore button) lacking a clear point, repetitive, could be condensed down to about two lines, and filled with personal attacks and insults. If "a lot of effort" was the metric for awarding merits, then pretty much every merit should go to users in Technical Discussion in Scam Accusations. Those are posts that take a lot of time and effort to make, not some rambling insults about a non-existent trust ring. I'll also just re-quote this in case you haven't read it before: Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that. You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly. It's conceivable that someday you and I will end up disagreeing too much about this stuff and I'll remove your source status, but it's really not a big deal. There is a bit of a strange phenomenon here, which does seem to be a good tendency, and it seems to me that there are a decently large number of merit sources who do attempt to grant a decent amount of benefit of the doubt to various shit posters, and even from time to time, might end up meriting the posts of such shitty posters, even though the merit sources are not compelled to do so. I personally do NOT use the "ignore" button, but I do generously employ "skim function" because sometimes there is a certain amount of garbage tendency that can be spotted within some posts and some kinds of posters... however, there is also some possibility, that later down the line, the same member who has had a history/tendency to shitily post could recover or provide some decent contribution to the then conversation - and I would not completely ruling out such a recovery possibility, even if a fleeting wave of quality or humor or something that provokes meaning or insight to the conversation. On the other hand, the level of shit the comes out of the keyboards of some posters does sometimes get so highly embedded in my head that it would take a decently large piece of extra contribution for me to thereafter merit the posts of that specific member who, from my perspective, had been historically engaging in such a high level shitty substantive postings.
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His post history last year - which is not long - is there for proof. Look at the dates. He is very manipulative, and I won't change my mind easily.
If you want to spend time on such topic, then that is up to you. Various long time posters come out of the woodwork, from time to time, and express varying opinions regarding bitcoin strategies. I am, personally, fairly sympathetic to long term BTC HODLing strategies, and shit coin bashing (especially in this thread), and even criticisms of short-term attempts at maneuverings that are weighed against long term HODLing. Others can vary in their perspective, and bashing around those kinds of ideas is part of the reason to participate here. I don't care if you were buddies in 2014. The last year really matters.
I am making no attempt to preserve "buddy status" that likely did not exist anyhow, and I don't even feel any need to look at post history. I see no reason to believe that the account has been taken over or that we need to go beyond my response to his/her recent post. In other words, why would I need to consider digging deeper? OK JJG. It's not his ideas that are the problem. Neither are r0ache's for that matter. It's the way and the timing he expresses them. But enough with this please JJG. Don't dig, take his word, & keep sleeping. Seems to me that you are too sensitive regarding interwebs comments, and even reluctant to accept my opinion as being different from yours, including becoin's opinion being different from yours, which I have already elaborated on several times. Just because I conclude that the becoin matter does not currently warrant further looking into, which also differs from your perspective, does not indicate that I am asleep or even purposefully blinding myself in such respects. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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His post history last year - which is not long - is there for proof. Look at the dates. He is very manipulative, and I won't change my mind easily.
If you want to spend time on such topic, then that is up to you. Various long time posters come out of the woodwork, from time to time, and express varying opinions regarding bitcoin strategies. I am, personally, fairly sympathetic to long term BTC HODLing strategies, and shit coin bashing (especially in this thread), and even criticisms of short-term attempts at maneuverings that are weighed against long term HODLing. Others can vary in their perspective, and bashing around those kinds of ideas is part of the reason to participate here. I don't care if you were buddies in 2014. The last year really matters.
I am making no attempt to preserve "buddy status" that likely did not exist anyhow, and I don't even feel any need to look at post history. I see no reason to believe that the account has been taken over or that we need to go beyond my response to his/her recent post. In other words, why would I need to consider digging deeper?
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From my perspective, whether "woke" or not, or just different, we have a variety of decent contributors in this thread, including but not limited to both you and becoin. Go figure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) All of us contribute something more or less. Even r0ach. Just with @becoin, as far as I'm concerned, he is a reverse indicator. I will not believe one word that comes out of his mouth. Also don't like his attitude. That's all. I was sleepy last night when he posted. Now I'm awake. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I doubt that s/he is as bad as you are making it out. Over the years, I recall a decent amount of short-but-sweet WO contributions from becoin, but hey, whatever, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am not claiming perfect memory, either.
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Morning WO's. You speak a decent amount of truth here, becoin. <...>
He actually speaks of not a single word of truth there JJG. Wake up.From my perspective, whether "woke" or not, or just different, we have a variety of decent contributors in this thread, including but not limited to both you and becoin. Go figure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Never thought I would merit talky man, but here we are. Irony comes, ever so often. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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how can merit sources have users on ignore ? that is not fair you are not supposed to merit posts only that you agree with but good posts that took a lot of effort
Without getting into any specific case of whether a specific member or a specific member's posts justify merit. I think that it is worth mentioning that merit sources, just like regular members, retain a large amount of discretion regarding which posts they merit or not, and how they use the forum including which threads they visit, which posts they read and whether they choose to ignore some users. Merit sources can employ their discretion to merit or not merit posts for nearly any reason that they want or no reason at all, as long as it is not some kind of selling or quid pro quo kind of reason. Of course, there could be other kinds of merit abuse that a merit source could engage in, and determining merit abuse, would be up to theymos to determine on a case by case basis, also completely discretionary for theymos to determine whether a merit source is abusive in his/her meriting conduct or if a merit source should continue as a merit source... theymos does not need a reason to remove a merit source from such status. There is NO standard that "taking a lot of effort" compels any merit source to merit posts, especially if the merit source in his/her discretion could find a variety of subjective or objective reasons NOT to merit such post.. and like I said, merit sources don't need a reason. I doubt that there is any need for me to attempt to list all the many reasons that a merit source might choose NOT to merit posts, but surely, as already mentioned, "taking a lot of effort" in and of itself would not compel any meriting action from a merit source. It is almost humorous to consider the idea (and possible examples) that merely "taking a lot of effort" should compel the meriting of posts. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Forum members have frequently raised the idea of antimerits (or demerits), and I personally believe that it is very unlikely that theymos would introduce such a system, especially when looking that the trust system and having the trust and untrust features.
In my viewpoint, if such a system of demerits were introduced, it would result in a lot of unnecessary and petty squabbling and likely bring out the worst in members.
theymos did actually mention "demerits" when he introduced the merit system, and likely he has made some subsequent post on the topic that continues to show reluctance to entertain proposals to add "demerits" to the forum.
I like the idea of requiring 10 sMerits to produce 1 demerit, that way its costly to really mess with somebody. Even with this ratio, you're right, it would still bring out a lot of pettiness and there's already quite a bit of that going around these days. Yes. I have read some variations of proposals like you suggest 10/1 or something like that, and that would cause some reservations of members to employ such demerits in such a system.
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I think I have "capitulated".
No, I haven't sold. Any. There's no point for me to do that... not at this price, not at any price. But I am slowly losing hope I will see Bitcoin recovering its previous heights. It's more like I have accepted to ride this thing to hell.
Normally I would consider that feeling to be a great contrarian indicator... so bullish. But when I say I am losing hope I really mean it this time. (I) Never before felt like this.
I am struggling to post this or not. But it wouldn't be honest not to share my feeling just to avoid the (probably justified) critic/flame.
I wish to be wrong though. Would even wish for a pump right after I press the "Post" button.
I have never sold a single Bitcoin (trading doesn't count) but now I am starting to understand why some people finally "break".
Perhaps you should be taking MajorMax's advice. Go away for 6 months, 1 year or perhaps a little longer depending on how much time you need). Especially, if you are merely HODLing and just getting depressed by watching the flatness that perhaps has decently high odds to lead towards more DOWN. Still struggling to post..... but will do it, just don't be too hard on me and my current negative view... maybe it is really even a good thing if there's more people feeling the same... or maybe not. Whateva.
You cannot expect anyone to be nice to you on the interwebs, and could even be the opposite, and maybe that is why going away for a few months or longer could be good. * THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE, IT'S JUST ME SHARING SOME THOUGHT/FEELING.... MOST PROBABLY COMPLETELY WRONG... HOPE SO.
Who knows? We are in a bearmarket, and that just means that the odds for down are greater than the odds for up, so still hoping for UP is against the odds.. setting yourself up for disappointment, if you are continuing to put actual feelings into hope for UP.. at least currently..
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Anyone else notice Toxic2040's charts are employing so much bogus witchcraft the screen isn't readable at all? Then after going through all this effort, he doesn't even attempt to make an inference as to what the market is doing? It's like his only goal is to create the world's most ugly chart for no reason. These markets getting you down, too, Roach? ToxicChart renditions are supposed to be a rorschach test, I believe.
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4 main metrics to look at imo: Ethnicity (white of whatever variety), language (something civilized (english)), culture (NO WELFARE), and taxation on bitcoin.
Looking into it myself, but at the end of the day the only way to know for sure if a given country works is to go there and live for a while.
As a US citizen, my only real options to reduce Bitcoin tax burden would be to ditch my citizenship or move to Puerto Rico. However, as jbreher mentioned, now would be the time to move to PR, while we're in the depths of a bear market. I'd like to move out of the US, at least temporarily, just for the experience. But I have a baby now, which complicated things further. Bring your anchor baby with you. That's what the anchor fucking means. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) What? Babies go where the parents go. Yes. But at least 'round these parts, the term anchor baby refers to a kid born to an illegal alien upon US soil. Such an event entitles the baby to automatic US Citizenship status. This provides a tie for the rest of the family to argue for US legal resident status. Thereby, 'anchor'. Such a term is clearly inapplicable to infofront's current situation with an already-born child. Nevermind the fact that it seems likely infofront is already US-ian. This. I doubt that Ibian is unaware of the USA political usage of the term "anchor baby," and likely, he purposefully used the term in different way, perhaps in order to cause some definitional distress from various readers, as a kind of joke. And, maybe the joke has become a bit more funny because of jbreher's perception of a necessity to explain the current USA political usage of the term "anchor baby?" Jokes are not so good when explained, but as you may recall, infofront had already said that he could not travel as easily, in part, because of baby, which could imply that said baby is anchoring down infofront's mobility. Literal rather than political definition of an "anchor baby." I better not attempt to explain more because the joke is going to become even less funny, perhaps? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) It might've been a joke that was lost on me (and jbreher it seems). I know Ibian is European, so I figured he was just misunderstanding the term. Ibian seems to be pretty up-to-date on various USA politics, especially the right winged stuff. He should be able to easily clarify what he meant. It is not out of the question that I could have read his post wrong?
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He's a fairly well known guy in the bitcoin twittersphere. I think he's basically a bitcoin maximalist. He's just been a little over bearing in his pain forecasts. What about if the r0ach hypothesis of the market is accurate, then is it bearish? That a single entity on Bitfinex has controlled the price all the way from $200 to $20,000 and I'm leaning towards the identity of that entity being Bitmain. If the identity of this entity was Bitmain and Bitmain implodes, bankrupts, or has no money to pump it anymore, then how is bitcoin going to be artificially manipulated to a bazillion dollars each with no Bitmain to rig it there? Stop trying to claim credit for a theory that is shared by a lot of other reddit nutjobs. The bitfinex manipulation theory. Can read a thousand versions of such theory on reddit with such minor variations that they all boil down to nearly the same thing, which, in essence, is pie in the sky making up shit. JayJuanGee, are you retarded? I am the originator of this theory. People like that guy named "Bitfinexed" came WAY after me. It's even posted on a damn blockchain. Do you see the date? It says "3 years ago". That's how you can tell I was correct, because so many people came after me all with similar conclusions: https://steemit.com/news/@r0achtheunsavory/bitfinex-is-lying-about-the-hack-and-i-can-tell-you-exactly-what-likely-happenedAnd a followup post to that one where you can see the insanely scammy bid and sell sides on Bitfinex after it came back up from the supposed "hack". You can EASILY tell the price there is controlled by a single entity in the screenshot on this post and that entity likely has connections to the people running the exchange because nobody else would store money there after their fake hack: https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-3-bitfinex-scamming-intensifies-and-more-on-the-silver-and-gold-marketsPerhaps you were the leader of the loonies? the seminal loon, so to speak? I doubt it, but perhaps? If so, congratulations would be in order for you, insightful sir. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d6HS3I2jDjU%2FV8Ud7EyTTOI%2FAAAAAAAAP8o%2FLf86jFfbuAIqGzzGTDOqfWZwTW3YSTylACLcB%2Fs1600%2F10.jpg&t=663&c=mp4z8LhO2N2LCA)
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Is stingers still a merit source?
Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Awarding merits for political reasons, this is totally partiality while judging peoples here. There are many examples of such merit abuse made by merit source and even some DTs to support a political opinion and you know that. For example: This post shows that there is a lot of efforts put into explaining a situation by a low-ranked member and receives zero merits for his effort-full post. On the other side, just an arrogant and unuseful answer to this here gets 11 merits. Also, the reply of rickbig4 suggests to an active person here to leave the forum, which is worth 0 merits. There are many such cases of merits abuse happing to support the political discussion. OO what I am saying there is a whole merit-circle out there, But still no action on the abuse from theymos. While I was removed from being a merit source within some hour of sending merits to the people who are working hard to stop the trust abuse. Great judgment ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) You seem to have just admitted the purpose of your sending the merit was in order that they would be able to vote on a forum issue? Perhaps?
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He's a fairly well known guy in the bitcoin twittersphere. I think he's basically a bitcoin maximalist. He's just been a little over bearing in his pain forecasts. What about if the r0ach hypothesis of the market is accurate, then is it bearish? That a single entity on Bitfinex has controlled the price all the way from $200 to $20,000 and I'm leaning towards the identity of that entity being Bitmain. If the identity of this entity was Bitmain and Bitmain implodes, bankrupts, or has no money to pump it anymore, then how is bitcoin going to be artificially manipulated to a bazillion dollars each with no Bitmain to rig it there? Stop trying to claim credit for a theory that is shared by a lot of other reddit nutjobs. The bitfinex manipulation theory. Can read a thousand versions of such theory on reddit with such minor variations that they all boil down to nearly the same thing, which, in essence, is pie in the sky making up shit.
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4 main metrics to look at imo: Ethnicity (white of whatever variety), language (something civilized (english)), culture (NO WELFARE), and taxation on bitcoin.
Looking into it myself, but at the end of the day the only way to know for sure if a given country works is to go there and live for a while.
As a US citizen, my only real options to reduce Bitcoin tax burden would be to ditch my citizenship or move to Puerto Rico. However, as jbreher mentioned, now would be the time to move to PR, while we're in the depths of a bear market. I'd like to move out of the US, at least temporarily, just for the experience. But I have a baby now, which complicated things further. Bring your anchor baby with you. That's what the anchor fucking means. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) What? Babies go where the parents go. Yes. But at least 'round these parts, the term anchor baby refers to a kid born to an illegal alien upon US soil. Such an event entitles the baby to automatic US Citizenship status. This provides a tie for the rest of the family to argue for US legal resident status. Thereby, 'anchor'. Such a term is clearly inapplicable to infofront's current situation with an already-born child. Nevermind the fact that it seems likely infofront is already US-ian. This. I doubt that Ibian is unaware of the USA political usage of the term "anchor baby," and likely, he purposefully used the term in different way, perhaps in order to cause some definitional distress from various readers, as a kind of joke. And, maybe the joke has become a bit more funny because of jbreher's perception of a necessity to explain the current USA political usage of the term "anchor baby?" Jokes are not so good when explained, but as you may recall, infofront had already said that he could not travel as easily, in part, because of baby, which could imply that said baby is anchoring down infofront's mobility. Literal rather than political definition of an "anchor baby." I better not attempt to explain more because the joke is going to become even less funny, perhaps? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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You got to know when to take the profit/loss.
I keep my profit only in bitcoin. When I pay my loss I pay in bitcoin. If I was a tourist like you I'd have sold my bitcoins at $500 like Mike Hearn did. Tourists come and go. We live here. For us bitcoin is something much more than just money! And bitcoin is rewarding us since 2009. You'll take your profit at $5000 and when bitcoin gets beyond $50000 from cryptotourist you'll become cryptohater like so many people before you during the last 10 years! Just because they thought they knew when to take the profit/loss. You speak a decent amount of truth here, becoin. Long term BTC hodlers are likely not going to need to worry about exactly when they take their profits or cash out a certain amount of BTC to pay some fiat expenses, because the reason has been that they mostly HODL through the UPs and the DOWNs, and when looking back at the long term, they have accumulated way more value by NOT attempting to time UPs and DOWNs, even while accumulating more and more BTC through the whole time. Sure, could have had more BTC to sell more at higher prices, yet does not really matter too much because higher priority goes to buying on a regular basis and especially dips. TLDR: No need to either be playing around with alts nor selling large amounts of bitcoin... and you as long as you are accumulating BTC, you are likely to do quite well, financially.
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idk just thought it looked cool, no1 made me one
@Xhomer: Could you make this good sir "full member" (hat stealer/sharer) a nice, individually-tailored hat? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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~OMG Theymos is really getting pissed.....
He was so angry that he accidentally DOXed himself by leaving his camera on. Cat is out of the bag, now. Sucks to be theymos. For easy reference, see below image: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fangryjogger.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F05%2Fangry-person.jpg&t=663&c=3LSwdoo4XztTPQ)
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