I know!  Between the hex nuts and cardboard tube slices, that setup easily cost a trip to Dollar General, and its dumpster, and US $0.29 to boot!

Not exactly.  Hashfast or some intermediary is selling them to VMC, obviously.  

For me, the question is, why does Hashfast seem to have hundreds of used boards?

We don't need proof, we need enough to convince a law enforcement agency or a public prosecutor that there are grounds to investigate.  Those guys then have the power to compel production of the proof, through sworn statements, search warrants, etc. At this point, I'd say we're getting there.  I'd like to see some more examples of the "VMC" boards.  

Any person can write out a complaint and send it to the FBI, a federal prosecutor's office or, in my case, what I'd consider is the Texas Attorney General's office.  California is obviously a possibility too, as is the Attorney General of any other US state in which a customer resides.  For some aspiring politician-type AG, getting in on the action in this "cutting edge" area of law, to protect investors, wow, the politics of it might be pretty good...


PS:  And wait, "Gateway" is the confessed "friend" of the Hashfast guys who helps run a pool, and who posted the positive comments about Hashfast when they were not shipping at all... now he's behind the "third party" pepper board and posting pictures of boxes of used-looking boards he says he received from Hashfast?  This is very peculiar.

You know, I learned the hard way that HashFast are low-life scum but I never was one to accuse them of self-mining - it seemed like their problems were real that they probably just couldn't get it together enough to get shit out the door.

But looking at that VMC "set up guide".  Wow.  VMC is selling what are obviously Hashfast boards, with identical capacitors and other components, multiple Hashfast Rev stickers on them (the same board), and thermal paste already applied?  Hundreds of these boards, allegedly?

Boy, it sure seems like used equipment to me.  Coming direct from Hashfast to VMC? 

Wow.  This looks almost criminal.  Screw arbitration.  How about some time at San Quentin for these guys?

These are rip-offs of rip-offs.

First, Hashfast was supposed to have delivered these chips and boards to people like me months ago, then they fail, now they are being sold - on an allegedly in-stock basis - at a non-ROI price by another shady company.

If there's any doubt in your mind that these are HashFast boards, just look at the components and the Rev. stickers on them.  Those are Hashfast's stickers.  These are boards that Hashfast has apparently had in-house, and has been farting around with, for a while.  Same board, multiple revs.  Thermal paste already on them.  Hashfast either did not have money to finish and ship these to its customers or, even worse, they might have been mining with them rather than providing them to customers in accordance with contracts.  Awful.

Oh man, hopefully some people spending time behind bars by the time this is all over.  Be warned that these boards might even be considered, in a way, stolen goods.  Not by VMC really (although it might have knowledge) but by Hashfast.

I'm real sorry if you rushed in at 4000 or something and feel bad now.  Shit happens.  This coin is not about overnight profits for anonymous IP addresses.

For the rest of us that aren't FUD-spewers, adolescent scammers, or self-centered shitheads that are only interested in a quick buck, slow and steady accumulation is the way to go.

And be ready to *spend* (not trade) some of those coins when, hopefully, some quality Native-made goods and services become available, payable in MZC.  That will serve the coin's purpose and help increase its value in its own right.

There are problems.  They are being and will be addressed in due course, I believe.  The coin's great potential remains.

You mean the one that the teen wunderkid Garret was going to create but now says he is not?  If that's the case, then there is no 3rd party facility.

Hashfast itself seems to be able to build and ship a half dozen units on a lucky day... is that the "facility" you refer to?

Slow and steady accumulation, fellas.

Oooh.  Interesting.  Let us know as soon as possible.

You are apparently sore because I think "business" education is low class?  Sorry, but it is.

But "blame the victim"?  No.  Perhaps late buyers should arguably have been more aware, they could have seen some of the fail and complaints before pulling the trigger, but for the folks on the front end, we relied on statements by the company that turned out to be lies.  The culpable party isn't the person relying on false promises, it's the liar.

But these guys set out to build a company, I'm sure.  They didn't start with the idea of Hashfast being a scam to be pilloried as worse than BFL, they wanted a respectable company. They really thought they were the "adults".  They really overestimated their own competence and capabilities.  They really, in their own minds, were going to be the premier hardware manufacturer.

As things started to get shaky, however, they took one wrong decision after another, screwing their customers, scewing their company name and, I hope, their professional reputations for the remainder of their existence on this earth.  The effort to be a successful company has surely now expired in everyone, and I'm betting its rats from a sinking ship now, with people in a position to grab assets trying their best to do so.

Just text him "In bitcoin mining, time is everything."  Every hour, on the hour.  Forever.

And hey Eddie De Castro, you shit-for-brains MBA (I always thought "business" should be taught in vo-tech schools, alongside welding and toilet repair), when your shit started hitting the fan back last year, if you had listened to people like me, there's a decent chance that your company, in cooperation with most of its early customers, could have found a way out.  Instead, you idiot, you circled your wagons and started shooting at the very people who had the greatest interest in creating some sort of arrangement with you to enable your obligations to be met, and your company to survive.  You dumbass.  Go get a job collecting trash on the side of the road.

"What could possibly go wrong?"     So since the teenager isn't going to bail the "adults" out anymore, the hapless adults are left to fend for themselves.  

If Hashfast is on the verge of broke, and it seems to me like they may be, I suspect that individually or severally, Edward, Simon, the apparently departed Scrotum and Long Dong, and god knows who else have probably squirrelled away BTC and/or hardware (the "hidden data center" or something like that).  I sure hope that these various legal processes are set up so that some very aggressive discovery can be done in the personal finances of its current and former directors and employees.  I'll bet a lot of the money did just go "poof" on wild spending, but these guys are such schemers, I'm sure there are some personal "rainy day funds" to be found and distributed to creditors.

Upgrade kit?  What upgrade kit?  I haven't seen one here.

Ah, next up at the Mazacoin Marketplace is a fantastic Snom M3 VOIP phone system.  Works great.

A steal at 30k MZC (< US$40).  Get yours now...  

http://www.mazacoin.org/market/item.php?id=16

OMG.  What a bargain.  Check out the iPod and the Raspberry Pi.  Both also available cheap.

I guess De Castro's mom gave him his allowance and, with that, the second batch was closed at two orders.  (Simon's dad paid for the other.  In Bitcoin mining, time is everything.)

Hashfast's latest e-mails seem to indicate that teen 'wunderkid' Garrett's assembly line is what Hashfast is depending upon to fill the MPP and EVO orders/upgrades. 

As somebody else said, what could possibly go wrong? 

Yeah, I put a 6 pin connector into the modular PSU. It had two four pin molex sockets on the same ribbon.  Each 4 pin molex I connected to a powered riser with a 750ti on it.  In retrospect, obviously pulling 150 watts over the single 6 pin connector. Seems to have been a mistake.    Live and learn!  

Well, now it's motherboard problem too, seeing that the socket is charred!

Have ordered a new mobo and PSU.  Once I get mining again, I'll see about what happened to the old stuff, maybe some of it can be saved.

But I'm thinking the two 750ti's tried to pull too much power over the single 4 pin molex cable.

Molex for the ones on risers.  Two 750ti's on the same cable. Won't make that mistake again.

There were also two pins fried on the motherboard-psu connection.  I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg.  Guessing the motherboard problem was derived from the riser problem, since the GPUs on the risers went out a few days before the mobo finally died.  Running at full voltage but I did have the power dialled back to 97%.  Will be more conservative with replacements!

Crashed on GPU benchmark... clean reinstall of driver... crashed on GPU benchmark again.  Repeat.  Same result.  But now the rig won't power up at all.

Figured I had a bad motherboard.  Started disconnecting it from the power supply (brand new Seasonic Gold 600w). Found that the power cable for the GPUs on the risers was melted at the power supply.  Obviously not Cudaminers fault!

Edit:  Two fried pins on the motherboard main power cable too.  They were hidden behind two capacitors. Ouch.