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161  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: February 07, 2014, 06:05:44 PM
Now official: using Bitcoins is completely illegal in Russia ,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=452118.0

So what? Does this suprise you? Quote:

ArticMine
Hero Member

If I understand correctly it is also illegal to conduct trade in Russia between a Russian individual and  / or legal entity and another Russian individual and  / or legal entity in USD, EUR etc., so in effect this places Bitcoin in a similar position to that of USD, EUR etc.


Correct apart from through a select set of banks following very select rules.

All part of capital controls to stop the value of the rouble leaving the country.
162  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: February 07, 2014, 01:55:04 PM
...
Am I doing something wrong here?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated

adz7, how many Ethernet ports does your Telstra router have?

My Telstra router has 3 ethernet ports

Okay, so just plug one cable between your router and PC and another cable between your router and your Ant. Your Ant then needs to be set to the same IP subnet as your router and your PC, what is the IP address and subnet of your PC?
163  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Antminer S1 factory Reset on: February 07, 2014, 01:46:43 PM
Yes. Another problem...

I got my machine hooked to my computer then uses its wifi for internet.

I am still not mining.

I can ping the machine from my computer and my machine to openwrt.org

I saved everything.

Thanks

If you want to use Wifi then set WAN and WWAN to DHCP, power off, wait 10 or so seconds, power on, and use an IP Scanner tool to find the IP) if you cannot locate it.

The trick is to make sure that there are no static entries on the WAN interface and the power cycle otherwise you will just end up hanging at the black LuCi screen on WiFi
I will try that now. Thanks for now.

-edit-
found it.

still not mining thou... connected to wifi, both wan and wwan is dhcp.

Ping openwrt.org, and 0% pkt loss

not mining.

You have a setting wrong or your router does not provide DNS entries as part of its DHCP. It is normally the first rather than the latter. The quickest way to do this is to see if this is the problem is to go to the Network -> Interfaces -> WWAN -> General Setup and confirm that the Protocl is set to DHCP, then on the  Network -> Interfaces -> WWAN -> Advanced Setup uncheck the Use DNS servers advertised by peer checkbox, the Use custom DNS servers box appears, enter 8.8.8.8 in the Use custom DNS servers box, then Save & Apply. You may need to power cycle again but you can test first from the Network -> Diagnostics ping page.

If that doesn't work then dump out the contents of your /etc/config/network file in a PM to me and I will have a look.
164  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: February 07, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
...
Am I doing something wrong here?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated

adz7, how many Ethernet ports does your Telstra router have?
165  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer support and OverClocking thread on: February 07, 2014, 10:19:36 AM
Hi
 do you have any advice how to split AntminerS1 hash power?
 For example 4*50 GHs?
 Is it possible?
thanks

You have edit the /etc/config/cgminer and /etc/init.d/cgminer to either load balance or round robin. I have it working with three pools but I do not have a fourth pool so I have never bothered to try.
166  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Antminer S1 factory Reset on: February 07, 2014, 09:59:02 AM
Yes. Another problem...

I got my machine hooked to my computer then uses its wifi for internet.

I am still not mining.

I can ping the machine from my computer and my machine to openwrt.org

I saved everything.

Thanks

If you want to use Wifi then set WAN and WWAN to DHCP, power off, wait 10 or so seconds, power on, and use an IP Scanner tool to find the IP) if you cannot locate it.

The trick is to make sure that there are no static entries on the WAN interface and the power cycle otherwise you will just end up hanging at the black LuCi screen on WiFi
167  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: February 04, 2014, 06:33:31 AM
OK, so I guess I shouldn't worry about my miner as I have it on a 500w PSU.

Thanks guys Smiley

My S1 is using 430w but that's overclocked.  I would be more interested in the temperature than the speed itself, which will vary somewhat.  Mine is running @ 44 both sides, again that's clocked.  I did install a fan on the front side which seems to make a big difference.

Happy Mining!

I thought i would share this:::

<jimbit_> oK,.. heres a good one..
<jimbit_> the kill a watts we use to measure wattage.... they WILL work on 220.
<jimbit_> I just plugged  mine into 220 and plugged the seasonic 750 into it with 2 antminers on it
<jimbit_> 686 watts  3.16 amps

edit:  after running for a few.. it is 689 watts.  If what everyone is saying about 440watts to OC for 20 Gh... it is NOT worth it.. not even close.
100 watts for 20Gh....


edit:  i thought I would add... this is on a 12/3 wire that is at least 100 feet from the panel

I am not surprised it is not seeming efficient your PSU is running at 91.5%


Naw, its not running at 91.5% ... the 686w is most likely wall reading....

Doh! Your right...too early in the morning, I need more coffee Smiley
168  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: February 04, 2014, 06:28:01 AM
OK, so I guess I shouldn't worry about my miner as I have it on a 500w PSU.

Thanks guys Smiley

My S1 is using 430w but that's overclocked.  I would be more interested in the temperature than the speed itself, which will vary somewhat.  Mine is running @ 44 both sides, again that's clocked.  I did install a fan on the front side which seems to make a big difference.

Happy Mining!

I thought i would share this:::

<jimbit_> oK,.. heres a good one..
<jimbit_> the kill a watts we use to measure wattage.... they WILL work on 220.
<jimbit_> I just plugged  mine into 220 and plugged the seasonic 750 into it with 2 antminers on it
<jimbit_> 686 watts  3.16 amps

edit:  after running for a few.. it is 689 watts.  If what everyone is saying about 440watts to OC for 20 Gh... it is NOT worth it.. not even close.
100 watts for 20Gh....


edit:  i thought I would add... this is on a 12/3 wire that is at least 100 feet from the panel

I am not surprised it is not seeming efficient your PSU is running at 91.5%
169  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer support and OverClocking thread on: February 02, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
I just decided to try the 375 MHz overclock. 


Exactly what numbers from the web interface is everyone using to calculate HW errors? 

HW / (HW + DiffA + DiffR + DiffS) = %
170  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer support and OverClocking thread on: February 02, 2014, 09:59:35 AM
Cgminer options



Anyone know how to add the following options to the cgminer config

I ssh'ed into the machine and added them like so

option api_network
option api_listen
option api_allow P:89.212.242.33,W:127.0.0.1
option api_groups P:switchpool:addpool:removepool:restart:save:*
option api_port 7777

Does not seem to work though

Has anyone had any success modifying the cgminer config with these options

You need to change the firewall rules to suit as well.

Any idea on what exactly needs to be changed in the firewall to allow the above ?

I had a look and it is not obvious to me. I have attempted to port forward 7777 but it does not seem to work.


Willing to give someone who is familiar with this a BTC tip if they can help me get this working

First the script /etc/init.d/cgminer does not allow the use of any --api-* cgminer options except for api-allow so you have to use port 4028 or re-write the /etc/init.d/cgminer script

I am assuming that you do not want to re-write the script and the IP 89.212.242.33 is not your network but some service on the Internet.

You will need to either setup your monitoring software to use port 4028 and forward incoming connections on that port to or set up your router to port forward 7777 to your ant miner on port 4028. The 'how to' do this is dependent on your router model and should be in its documentation. You will have to know if your router does port forwarding via NAT or just plain port forwarding for the next steps.

For NAT: Assuming the network your ant is on is either 192.168.1.0/24 or 192.168.2.0/24 and then change the antminer cgminer config to option api_allow 'P:192.168.*.*,W:127.0.0.1' and remove the api-groups and api-port lines.

For Plain Port Forwarding: Change the antminer cgminer config to option api_allow 'P:89.212.242.33,W:127.0.0.1' and remove the api-groups and api-port lines. In the antminer web gui go to the Network -> Firewall -> Traffic Rules and click the Edit button on the cgminer rule. Select the 'Any zone' radio button and click save and apply.

Now reboot your ant and test.


Thanks. It defeats the purpose if I cannot control cgminer via api commands. It's a shame that the Ant does not come with a copy of cgminer that can do this.

You can control your ant remotely it is just not a plug and play consumer device.
171  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GroupBuy For ANTMINER S1 Dual Blades 180Ghs 1.35btc Worldwide on: February 02, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
It is dead easy to prove that Bitmain is supporting this group buy get him to reply to the thread stating he is supporting it just like he does for Sushi
172  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: February 02, 2014, 09:43:10 AM
It really does depend on how good your PSU is.

15A * 110V = 1,650W

No, no, no. Do not run a circuit at 100% 24/7. You max 80% continous load.

15 amp circuit: 12A @ 120V = 1440W.
20 amp circuit: 16A @ 120V = 1920W.


The mainswitch is 80% rated but I think the branch circuits are 100% rated.

If the branch circuits where also 80% rated then a 200A service would only be good for 128A continuous.
No, your branch circuits are rated for no more than 80% continuous use. I don't know why you're derating the main service twice. You should derate your main breaker as well but the branch circuits don't affect that, it's just a function of the breaker. You can still have 16 10A loads on that breaker and be safe. Each branch shouldn't be run more than 80% except intermittently (eg, a big temporary draw like a microwave or kettle) though, and since mining is hopefully 24/7, no more than 12A on a standard 14 gauge 15A branch.

That being said, I wouldn't run even 12A continuously on a standard house branch circuit. 14 gauge wire has a resistance of 2.525mOhm/ft, so if you have 50 feet of NMD-90 between the panel and the outlet you are running through 100ft of wire (hot+neutral). 12A*12A*0.2525Ohm = ~36W burning up just in the house wiring.

Short runs of thick wire, why waste power when you don't need to?

I know for a fact that 99.99% of all mainswitches are 80% rated.
You are correct, and I didn't say otherwise. What I said is that you don't derate it twice. Derate the main breaker 80% for continuous use (160A in your example), and derate each branch by 80% (12A).

It appears that you are also probably right.

I work at a power utility however, I am not an electrician so I don't know for sure.

My incorrect response that started this sub-thread woke me up last night but not enough to come and fix it. Other countries rules are different from the UK and I would think that Syke's 80% rule of max continuous load would be good enough as a guide for most of them.

In the UK the 240V and fused plug system and ring main circuits that are just about ubiquitous safely allow for greater loads than most other counties and if you know what you are doing you can run a ring main circuit at 100% load as if it was a heating circuit with out any problems BUT most people would not have a clue to work out how to run it as a heating circuit so if you do not know exactly what you are doing then follow the rule for other countries, load to 80% of rated current and stay safe!
173  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: February 01, 2014, 07:40:09 PM


Now you guys got me wondering how many ants I can put on one 15A breaker.

220 would be better.. but for a 15amp 110 I would say 4 ants using approx 12-13amps

edit:   15 ants on a 220 30amp breaker!  (using 24amps)

It really does depend on how good your PSU is.

15A * 110V = 1,650W

Stock clocked ant on a very good PSU pulls 350W, overclocked pulls 400W. 4 ant's is your maximum but if your house circuitry is old then personally I would only use 3 ant's because of the burnout risk from old cable.
174  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Bitmain AntMiner S1 Setup on: February 01, 2014, 07:12:16 PM
ok i see i felt as much , otherwise everyone would have done it. shut off at 70 thats high compared to some other machine avalons were at 60 i think.also could 400mhz over clock burn the board out?

Temperatures are all relative. Gen 1 Avalons had on heatsink temps which are lower than die which are lower than core. Gen 2 had on die and so temps allowed went down.

On top of that, chips aren't all built for the same heat. You'll have to look into the spec sheets if there are any around.

i thought those limits mentioned by ineedit were from some kind of specsheet?

They are, they are from Bitmain's github, https://github.com/AntMiner/AntGen1 and from the configs of the product itself.
175  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Bitmain AntMiner S1 Setup on: February 01, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
I just tried a 3 pin fan on the second board on the miner.when you attach it to 3 pins from the top going g down the fan works at normal speed. When you connect it starting with the second pin from the top the new fan doesn't work but the stock fan ramps up in speed a lot in the ui it's at 3020 at the temps are down to mid 3os. Is it Ok to keep it like that? It would be great for overclocked miners.

It has same effect and as much use as you just driving your car in first gear so you can see the RPM counter near the red.  It would be a great way to help burn out you fan faster.

Ant's are happy at 50c and below, the fan is set to work hardest at 60c and the unit shuts down at 70c.




ok i see i felt as much , otherwise everyone would have done it. shut off at 70 thats high compared to some other machine avalons were at 60 i think.also could 400mhz over clock burn the board out?



No 400Mhz will not burn out the board unless the components are out of spec but greater than that starts to push the VRM's and that could cause one to occur.

I run ant's at 400Mhz @ 50c in 23c ambient @2200-2500 rpm on a single fan. As spring turns to summer I will drop to 375Mhz or add cheap 130CFM fans, by the summer and assuming that the difficulty has not increased to make them unprofitable I will drop to 350MHz or below and add cheap 130CFM fans.

i see, sounds reasonable enought. And the cooling obviously is a great help for the overclocking process. it must get quite hot where you then. u.k is mostly cold even summer isnt too bad for minng.

I am UK, in winter I use the miners to heat the house instead of oil hence the 23c ambient, I prefer 20c but my wife prefers it hotter at 23c so I agreed to compromise at 23c Smiley

In the spring I will move them to the garage that has more than enough holes in it to let a draft through.


I'm in the UK too. I am wearing just shorts as my miners are in the front room of a bungalow. They keep our house at 23 degrees too. We have just got a refund of British Gas of £256 quid or there abouts, plus we have a wood burner in the front room which we have saved about £9 quid a week on buying logs for the burner. In summer I will move them to the garage also and do my bit for nature as they will keep a family of door mice warm at night LOL.

The door mice will like that  Smiley

Given the new bright LED's on the ant's I suspect that the local wildlife in my garage will party for the summer, feck knows what the neighbours will think that flashing lights in the garage will be for, I will tell them it is for attracting UFO's  Grin
176  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: February 01, 2014, 03:08:42 PM
FYI,  Both Fans running Max for 12 hrs.  Considerably cooler but no improvement in hashing.  Ambient temp 55F/13C





Why would you expect it to hash faster!

You cannot cool it enough at home to make it go any faster. You would need to supercool it and even then the amount of improvement would not make super-cooling it financially viable.
177  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 01, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
I know I said I wouldn't reply to you anymore, but I just need to make one point.
If you go around and say that every pre-order is a scam, then you will most likely be right on a few of them. Doesn't mean you're right all the time. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
That's all.

PG has been right more often than not. He is abrasive, often amusing, and dogged as hell.

I think he's wrong on this one, but He is not a troll.

Dude, are you Chuck Norris?  Grin

Only Chuck Norris is cool enough to be Chuck Norris  Grin
178  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Should I be getting better hash speeds? on: February 01, 2014, 11:48:33 AM
Actually, I'll have to uninstall the driver, it's giving me a check hardware error now >.<

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx

Thanks, that worked for both my issues it seems Cheesy though I swear I did this several times >.<... But I do think I'll downgrade to 11.11 because 13.9 gives me less hash/s for some weird reason

Nope, nvm, still getting a hardware error Sad

Tried my best, but I am out of idea now... Sad

BOSD will more likely be the motherboard drivers plus others component drivers versus the OS you are running. If you want to stick with that motherboard because of lack of funds then rebuild the Windows OS but if it is a motherboard built for XP then swap it out to Linux as it will be more stable. When you get some funds in then ebay a used motherboard with CPU and memory that was manufactured for Win7.
179  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Bitmain AntMiner S1 Setup on: February 01, 2014, 11:40:51 AM
I just tried a 3 pin fan on the second board on the miner.when you attach it to 3 pins from the top going g down the fan works at normal speed. When you connect it starting with the second pin from the top the new fan doesn't work but the stock fan ramps up in speed a lot in the ui it's at 3020 at the temps are down to mid 3os. Is it Ok to keep it like that? It would be great for overclocked miners.

It has same effect and as much use as you just driving your car in first gear so you can see the RPM counter near the red.  It would be a great way to help burn out you fan faster.

Ant's are happy at 50c and below, the fan is set to work hardest at 60c and the unit shuts down at 70c.




ok i see i felt as much , otherwise everyone would have done it. shut off at 70 thats high compared to some other machine avalons were at 60 i think.also could 400mhz over clock burn the board out?



No 400Mhz will not burn out the board unless the components are out of spec but greater than that starts to push the VRM's and that could cause one to occur.

I run ant's at 400Mhz @ 50c in 23c ambient @2200-2500 rpm on a single fan. As spring turns to summer I will drop to 375Mhz or add cheap 130CFM fans, by the summer and assuming that the difficulty has not increased to make them unprofitable I will drop to 350MHz or below and add cheap 130CFM fans.

i see, sounds reasonable enought. And the cooling obviously is a great help for the overclocking process. it must get quite hot where you then. u.k is mostly cold even summer isnt too bad for minng.

I am UK, in winter I use the miners to heat the house instead of oil hence the 23c ambient, I prefer 20c but my wife prefers it hotter at 23c so I agreed to compromise at 23c Smiley

In the spring I will move them to the garage that has more than enough holes in it to let a draft through.
180  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: You agree that Bitcoin mining is a NO GREEN act? on: February 01, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
XNF-NoFiatCoin which is a pre mined digital currency backed by gold declares that-

It wants to avoid problems associated with mining: waste of computing power, energy and the possibility of a mining pool taking control of the market by acquiring 51% of all available mining capacity.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/nofiatcoin/xnf/prweb11494965.htm

There are millions of people who are into Bitcoin mining which consume so much electricity, efforts and investment in hardware. Is mining an act which is against going green? Is there a possibility that total costs of all miners put together is more than what is earned through mining?

All currency is managed and run eclectically, More electric is used to run the worlds ATM,s, payment systems, etc that used in virtual currencies.

Currencies having a green issue, FFS, lets all go back to Cowrie Shells.
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