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161  Economy / Lending / Re: Want 1 BTC loan, offering domain names as collateral on: April 06, 2018, 05:21:04 PM
How much would you say they're worth?
As collateral definitely not more than BTC0.1. For final users of course more but that's too hard to say. If enough effort and time is put into it then maybe a lot more. It depends on the market.
But for collateral it has to be a price it can be sold immediately, without any effort at all, as easy as you can sell 1 BTC at market price.

Names like galaxy.xyz or host.xyz sold for $2,800 and $4,000 last month, Google's parent company's website is abc.xyz, ....
...
Estibot values each of them at more than $2,000 (except for one). So how much are they worth in your opinion?
Those are the highest prices. That and estibot are not very good ways to value domains.
Besides those are the highest prices for final users. For collateral that's a whole other story: again, read this.

I mentioned in my second post they were one-word new gtld domains. Were you seriously considering the loan or were you just fishing for the list?
I was considering the loan if the domains were worth more than 1 BTC as collateral, not for final users. No condition was met.
I was interested in granting a loan, not in buying domains.

You say they're worth far less than 1 BTC then in a post of yours last week I see you're selling gram.claims , gram.gratis and gram.kaufen for 0.01 BTC each? Seriously? If you value these absolute shits at 0.01 BTC then you should value each of mine at the very least at 0.1 BTC.
Initial price is 0.003 BTC for each of those domains. My domains are most probably worth less than yours. None are close to 1 BTC at all.
Besides, I'm selling my domains there. Here you are using them as collateral. Prices can't be compared. Again, read this and stop playing foul.

Then I mentioned in my second post on this thread that I'm willing to take a smaller loan if the lender doesn't consider the collateral to be worth as much and you're threatening to give me a negative trust? Seriously?
That would be acceptable if your domains were worth close to the asked amount as collateral. However the collateral you offer is ridiculously lower than the asked amount.
You can't ask for a $6,6k loan with less than $600 as collateral and get away with it just by mentioning you could get a lower amount. That's asking for a loan without valid collateral and that deserves negative trust.

Yea do that and I'll give you negative trust for trusting you were a genuine lender, but judging from your trust history I can see all you do is giving away truckloads of negative trust and never lend.
I do grant loans, I do sell domains and I do leave negative trust to untrustworthy users who try to fake a sale as a loan or who ask for loans without valid collateral, among other reasons. I do make trades and I do hate scammers.

Stop asking for loans without valid collateral. This is the last warning.
162  Economy / Lending / Re: Want 1 BTC loan, offering domain names as collateral on: April 06, 2018, 02:51:06 PM
I was considering the loan and asked for the list of domains. They're under .xyz and other new TLD.

From my experience they're worth much less than 1 BTC even for final users. Of course to be used as collateral they must be valued very low so they can be easy to be sold (read this), so this is definitely a loan with invalid/insufficient collateral.

OP, if you don't lock this thread, lower the asked amount a lot or offer more collateral then I'll add negative trust to you.
163  Other / Meta / Re: Making trust system great again! on: April 04, 2018, 03:24:28 PM
...
2- Decentralised/personalised trust : where everyone is asked to add & exclude members =~creating something similar to default trust (with people in depth 1...etc)
So we will have then something similar to this under our avatar :
PTrust:   1: -0 / +1  (personalised trust)
DTrust:   0: -0 / +0  (default trust)
A transition period could be determined...

So basically you want to force everyone to customize their trust list instead of using the default list?
That is something already being considered by theymos:

I've been seriously thinking about reopening the idea of enforcing user-defined trust lists via suggestions, etc., deprecating DefaultTrust.

Generated how?

Currently it's the same as I described here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914641.0 . That's from 2015, so maybe it could be improved. Also, instead of hard-forcing people to set trust as I described there, I think I'd instead have the trust link be red on every person, saying something like "Warning: you need to set your trust!".
164  Economy / Auctions / Re: Telegram Domains: gram.cheap ● gram.claims ● gram.gratis ● gram.kaufen on: April 03, 2018, 04:04:29 AM
Bump
165  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: User Topparkeds scammed me for .15 BTC in an auction. :( on: March 28, 2018, 11:03:22 PM
I've asked Topparkeds to reply here. I've left negative trust until this is solved. I hope it will be
166  Economy / Auctions / Re: Telegram Domains: gram.cheap ● gram.claims ● gram.gratis ● gram.kaufen on: March 28, 2018, 04:03:57 PM
What relevance do they have to Telegam?


https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/16/telegram-ico-850-million/
Quote
...in the investment community who were given deep discounts to buy Telegram’s Gram token

https://qz.com/1213501/telegram-is-raising-1-15-billion-in-the-next-phase-of-its-mega-ico/
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Its 200 million existing users would transact on this blockchain with its GRAM crypto-tokens. Investors in the first phase of Telegram’s ICO...

https://www.coindesk.com/telegram-ico-know-dont-2018s-biggest-token-sale/
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...raising money via a sale of tokens called "grams."
167  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by coinman on: March 28, 2018, 03:56:38 PM
Considering if it was someone with dark green trust
But that's not the case. I don't know why you even mentioned this. Do you know whom we're talking about?
His account was already red thanks to KWH so me granting a few days for him to explain didn't make any difference in that sense.

Even if he replies and has substantial amount of proof he is not guilty,the feedback should stay as a warning.
What? If he proves he's not guilty then it wouldn't make any sense to leave negative feedback as a warning :/
But everything seems to show he is indeed guilty.
168  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by coinman on: March 28, 2018, 12:42:02 AM
Last Friday COINMAN1 asked me to wait 3 days until he's able to properly respond because of personal issues. I've tagged him now
169  Economy / Auctions / Telegram Domains: gram.cheap ● gram.claims ● gram.gratis ● gram.kaufen on: March 27, 2018, 10:15:54 PM
I'm auctioning these four gram.* domains:

gram.cheap

gram.claims

gram.gratis

gram.kaufen

All of them are registered on Namesilo and will be pushed for free to the winner's namesilo account.

Starting bid for each domain:
BTC0.003 for each domain.
Each domain has an independent auction.

Minimum increment:
BTC0.001. Bids must be multiple of BTC0.001

Buy it now:
BTC0.01 each domain, or BTC0.03 for all 4 (valid if no auction is closed yet).

End date and time:
72 hours after the first bid of a particular domain or 24 hours after the last bid of that domain, whichever is later.
Every domain has its own auction and ends independently.

Newbies:
Users with less than 28 activity can't bid, unless they BIN and pay immediately, or send to me the amount they're bidding for (to be returned minus TX fees if they don't win)

Payment:
Bids must be made in BTC. Payments can be made in BTC, ETH, LTC, GBYTE. I may take other crypto-currencies. PM me before bidding.
The payment must be sent to me or the escrow less than 48h after the auction is closed,
otherwise I may leave negative trust and may sell it to next higher bidder who must complete the deal according to their bid.

After an auction is closed I'll send a signed message (to be verified here, or here) with the payment address. If you prefer to use escrow instead PM me right away.
170  Other / Meta / Re: Avoiding board limitations by temporarily moving threads to another board on: March 27, 2018, 02:14:44 PM
  • The option to move the thread to another board should be disabled on Boards with this kind of specific limitations,
Normally, that would result in restricting the following things that you mentioned here:

I would think the purpose is to allow users to move them to the right board after posting on the wrong one and being told so by others. It can also be used to move closed topics to Archival for example.

So instead of that (different types of threads, in general), I think self moderated threads (as a whole) shouldn't have the ability of being transferred to another board.

Reason behind my suggestion:
 - I highly doubt a casual user, knows how to create a self moderated topic (most will just click the "new topic" > disregard the "Additional Options..." > type and click post). So if someone creates such topics, they won't be publishing those in a wrong board.
Yes, that's a drawback. Moderators would probably need to be more active on those boards.
Your suggestion makes a lot of sense regarding the Spam accusations board. However on Auctions the issue is no self moderation but the OP editing or deleting his own posts.

The advantage of this option I suggest though is that it's very easy to implement. Just adding a condition in a couple of places would be necessary. It could be considered as a temporary fix.

  • The thread should be marked somehow so that those limitations are kept even after moving them to another board, or
  • Threads moved from a Board with limitations should not be allowed back if the corresponding limitation was broken (if a post was moderated or edited for example)
I support these two.
I like these 2 options more too. However they do require more development.
171  Other / Meta / Re: Avoiding board limitations by temporarily moving threads to another board on: March 27, 2018, 02:38:12 AM
Is this ability limited to the Auctions section?  ..and what exactly is the purpose of non-mods moving threads?, mods seem to be ontop of that from what I see
Threads can be moved to and from most (all?) boards, not just Auctions. I would think the purpose is to allow users to move them to the right board after posting on the wrong one and being told so by others. It can also be used to move closed topics to Archival for example.
172  Other / Meta / Re: Avoiding board limitations by temporarily moving threads to another board on: March 26, 2018, 10:59:51 PM
Before posting on any thread in scam accusation, auctions, make sure that you have checked OP's posted topics, there is always a post containing the link to the new place of the topic
That's not always true. The thread announcing the topic was moved is published only if the OP (or the moderator) chooses to do that. It's optional:

Besides, moving the thread is not a prerequisite for Auctions.

maybe we could have the OP removed as the author of such threads, making a guest account as the author when you move a self moderated thread to those boards
I don't like that idea very much. Then we wouldn't know who created the thread and the OP wouldn't have any control of it at all, he wouldn't just lose the disallowed functionality as he should. I think there are much better ways to prevent this issue

why did you post this publicly?
This (bug?) doesn't allow users to hack others' accounts, reading PMs, injecting code into the DB or other security vulnerabilities so I don't think there's a security risk here.

It seems several users are already abusing this so I think it's better to make it public so that users know their posts could be moderated even in Scam accusations and OP's posts could be edited or deleted even on Auctions until this is fixed. This can reduce the effect of the exploit. Besides making this public can add some pressure so it's solved faster.

If an Admin disagrees and thinks there's an issue in making this public then he can trash this thread. I guess some Admin would've already done that in that case.
173  Other / Meta / Re: Request: Show default trust on Marketplace for guests (non-registered users) on: March 26, 2018, 08:38:45 PM
I think the lack of a response is your answer.
Not necessarily, you can't assume anything not replied by theymos means he's explicitly against it

I support your idea, however one drawback to showing default trust to guests is that it gives more weight to the DT system, which goes against what theymos wants, and would make it more difficult to maintain the hands off policy regarding trust disputes the administration has taken.
Yes, that's a valid drawback. However I really think that's much less of a problem than letting people get scammed and damage the appearance of the forum (and probably bitcoin by extension). Besides showing default trust to guests is not the only option as previously discussed
174  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Mark this scammer with red (ledigi)!!! on: March 26, 2018, 07:42:48 PM
already reported the pm day ago, and how the pm cannot be real consider i screenshot it ?

There are many ways for people to fake screenshots of PMs if there is nobody to verify it. The stakes here are not extraordinarily high, but it still would be worth it to verify with a staff member/mod to make sure that it is actually taking place as you say it is. The person you are suspecting of being a phisher has not posted any links that seem too suspicious publicly, so without any verifiable information it would seem inappropriate to press action against somebody while there is still reasonable doubt.
Dude, why would i fake pm from mr NO ONE and obviously everything screenshot based is called PROOF, everything not screenshot based is called "notepad story"...
How u can claim something is truth without screenshot evidence lol

Loading screenshot "proof"
Disclaimer: This screenshot is fake. I'm just trying to make a point



I don't think you're faking the PM. But real proof is required to leave negative trust. Otherwise it can become an easy way to frame anyone in the future.
When reporting the PM I advice you to choose hilariousandco as he seems to be the most active admin. You may re-report it to him if you didn't include him the first time.
175  Other / Meta / Re: Request: Show default trust on Marketplace for guests (non-registered users) on: March 26, 2018, 07:05:11 PM
Bump. Non-registered users keep getting scammed by accounts already tagged as scammers because they can't see the warning:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035620.msg33231264#msg33231264

I've PM'd theymos but haven't received any reply. I think this needs more attention
176  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WARNING] Avoid auto-buy links, especially by newbies, locked or self-moderated on: March 26, 2018, 06:59:29 PM
I've tagged him almost a month ago and others left negative trust to him even 5 months ago. He's a known scammer

This guy scammed me out of $20, struck up a conversation on skype, no Amazon gift card. Please catch his alts and remove the posts.
Sorry about that. I and others are trying to find his (and other scammers') alts. If you have any information on that let me know

I found his post on google search, doesn't look good for the community, when this is how I found the site in the first place
I agree. That's why I recommend everyone to register before dealing here and I've asked default trust to be shown to non registered users, among other options to solve this. I hope that will be implemented some day

Message me if you need proof from skype conversation/ $ transfer etc.
That's not necessary as he's already tagged as scammer. But you can create a thread about that with proper proof here using the format shown here.
177  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Mark this scammer with red (ledigi)!!! on: March 26, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Rambotnic, please report the PM and ask the moderator to post here confirming the PM is real. That will prove ledigi sent that phishing link
178  Other / Meta / Re: Avoiding board limitations by temporarily moving threads to another board on: March 26, 2018, 02:49:34 PM
This is what you called SMF 1.1.19 Glitch/Bug xD well honestly I don't have that enough knowledge about SMF but the way you deduce it, it was pretty simple explanation so for an instance if this thread is in scam accusation you can move it and delete my post with a little knowledge of exploiting the said bug.  Lips sealed

P.S. I'm having a coffee break here why don't you join me while the water is still hot in the thermos  Smiley


Does the bug mean you can make a topic self moderated in a board that doesn't normally allow it or that you can make a thread regress back to being self moderated if moved to a board that supports it, from a board that doesn't, and originally in a board that does? Or has the bug not exactly been isolated?
The bug has been isolated. It does allow to self moderate threads on the scam accusation board (which normally doesn't allow self moderation) or to edit or delete own posts on auctions (which normally doesn't allow that).

This is quite a serious bug, I'd consider negging the OP of that thread EcuaMobi for doing something like that if you haven't already done so.
I don't think negative is deserved. I'm adding neutral to him. I've replaced it with a negative after considering more factors.
179  Economy / Reputation / Re: Possible Phishing Link from user. Need Help urgent. on: March 24, 2018, 10:11:24 PM
However I do have the Bitcointalk PM notification via e-mail setup, and here is the message: [img ]http://https://i.imgur.com/XdMOS3X.png[/img]
Aventhe has granted me temporary access to his email account and I've verified this email.
I've checked the headers and compared it with notifications from PMs I sent to him and, to my knowledge, the email seems real.

I'm tagging AlexUAE777.
180  Other / Meta / Avoiding board limitations by temporarily moving threads to another board on: March 24, 2018, 06:25:13 PM
One of my posts on this thread in Scam accusations got deleted by the starter of the thread.

However the thread is not marked as self moderated and it's actually not allowed to create self moderated threads on that Board as shown in this capture.

It seems the started of that thread made it self moderated on another board, then it was moved to Scam accusations (either by him or a moderator). That made the thread to sop being self moderated and the warning to be removed. Since OP didn't like what I posted on his thread it seems he moved the thread to any other board, deleted my post and moved it back to Scam accusations. That's the only explications I could find. Let me know if you can explain it otherwise.

Other Boards have their own limitations, like not editing posts on Auctions. So I've tried this on one of my posts. I moved one to Digital Goods and, as expected, I was allowed to edit or deleted my posts. Then I was able to move it back to Auctions and the limitations were back in place.

This represents an issue because:
  • Any user can be censured by the started of a topic without being aware that's a possibility, like it happened to me
  • Users not aware of this issue can be mislead into thinking no post could have been moderated by the started of a topic on Scam accusations; or no post could have been edited or deleted if the thread is on Auctions. This can be easily exploited by the started of those threads

I see 3 options to solve this problem:
  • The option to move the thread to another board should be disabled on Boards with this kind of specific limitations,
  • The thread should be marked somehow so that those limitations are kept even after moving them to another board, or
  • Threads moved from a Board with limitations should not be allowed back if the corresponding limitation was broken (if a post was moderated or edited for example)
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